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Michael82
04-30-2006, 01:51 PM
OLB Keith Ellison - Oregon State

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Bert102176
04-30-2006, 01:52 PM
yeah who the hell is he

LtFinFan66
04-30-2006, 01:52 PM
:idunno:

Devin
04-30-2006, 01:52 PM
Is Spencer Havner still on the board? WTF?

DraftBoy
04-30-2006, 01:53 PM
former SS, moved to OLB, playmaker sideline to sideline, undersized needs to add some bulk. Has trouble disgnosing play, fighting through blocks, and bites on the playaction. Is good in coverage and matches up well with TE and RB's out of the backfield.

Dozerdog
04-30-2006, 01:54 PM
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Weight: 229
40 Speed: 4.83*
</TD><TD class=bio width="50%">Position: Outside Linebacker
College: Oregon State
Final Grade: G 5.9 ST
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<TABLE id=section cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=label><TD>SUMMARY</TD></TR><TR class=copy><TD>Ellison was frustrating to grade because statistically he was a very productive linebacker who was involved in one play out of every 7.3 snaps, but he was not a consistently productive player. He was much less productive when blockers were able to get their hands on him. While he measures nearly 230 pounds, he looks much smaller on film and when he plays up high he really struggles vs. blockers. He is a versatile linebacker who is good rushing the passer, very smooth dropping into zone coverage, has the play speed and athleticism to cover well in man-to-man coverage and can make plays vs. the run from sideline to sideline. Overall, Ellison has all the physical tools to be a very productive starting linebacker if he becomes more consistent playing aggressively vs. blockers and bulks up to approximately 240 pounds. An added bonus is that while Ellison is a backup during his first season or two while he bulks up and learns to play more consistently, he will be able to make an impact as a cover man on special teams coverage.
</TD></TR><TR><TD><TABLE id=tbl cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=bg0><TD colSpan=6>CRITICAL FACTORS</TD></TR><TR class=bg1><TD>Athletic Ability</TD><TD>Initial Quickness</TD><TD>Play Strength</TD><TD>Competes</TD><TD>Play Speed</TD><TD>Instincts</TD></TR><TR class=bg2><TD>6.5</TD><TD>6.0</TD><TD>5.5</TD><TD>6.0</TD><TD>6.5</TD><TD>6.0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE id=section cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=label><TD>STRONG POINTS</TD></TR><TR class=copy><TD>Ellison is a very good athlete with the quick feet, agility and flexibility to plays very well out in space when he bends his knees, plays over feet and stays under control. He is very quick and smooth dropping into zone coverage, reads the quarterback pass well, breaks and closes quickly and can make the hard hit right after the ball arrives to break up pass. He has good instincts, which combine with his quick feet so that he consistently reads and reacts to the play fast. On plays away he accelerates to full speed quickly, moves through traffic easily and has the playing speed to consistently chase plays down in pursuit. He is a very quick blitzer off the edge, can defeat the running back/tight end blocks easily and closes on the quarterback in a flash and makes hard hit. He has been a good coverage man on special teams at Oregon State.
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<TABLE id=section cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=label><TD>WEAKNESSES</TD></TR><TR class=copy><TD>Ellison is clearly an undersized linebacker and it hinders his ability to consistently make plays when he has to deal with blockers. Once a blocker locks up on him, he lacks the strength to shed and get free consistently. He has a tendency to lose focus at times and ends up playing high when chasing the play and ends up getting bounced around in traffic. He gets over-aggressive at times and it leads to him stopping feet and diving and lunging, which leads to him missing tackles. He bites on play action fakes at times and it allows the tight end to get behind him too easily.
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<TABLE id=section cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=label><TD>POSITIONAL FACTORS</TD></TR><TR><TD><TABLE id=tbl cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=bg10><TD>Grade</TD><TD>Category</TD><TD>Comments/Description</TD></TR><TR class=bg12><TD>6.0</TD><TD>Read & React</TD><TD>Quick feet and instincts help him to consistently get started toward the ball quickly at the snap.</TD></TR><TR class=bg12><TD>6.0</TD><TD>Initial Quickness</TD><TD>He consistently gets moving quickly at the snap -- bursts off ball on blitzes and drops into zone fast.</TD></TR><TR class=bg12><TD>5.5</TD><TD>Play Strength</TD><TD>When he bends knees and plays aggressively, he can play stronger than his measured size.</TD></TR><TR class=bg12><TD>5.5</TD><TD>Tackling</TD><TD>Can be a very good and punishing tackler, but will leave feet, dives, lunges and misses tackles too often.</TD></TR><TR class=bg12><TD>5.5</TD><TD>Shed Blocker</TD><TD>Flashes quick, strong hands to take on and shed blocks well, but he does not shed consistently.</TD></TR><TR class=bg12><TD>5.5</TD><TD>Run at Him</TD><TD>When he is aggressive he defeats the block and makes tackles, but can be over-powered and ridden out of the play.</TD></TR><TR class=bg12><TD>6.0</TD><TD>Pursuit/Range</TD><TD>On plays away he accelerates to full speed fast, moves through traffic and makes plays chasing after ball in pursuit.</TD></TR><TR class=bg12><TD>6.5</TD><TD>Closing Burst</TD><TD>He has an explosive closing burst to finish plays when he gets close to the ball-carrier or quarterback.</TD></TR><TR class=bg12><TD>6.0</TD><TD>Zone Coverage</TD><TD>Drops off ball into zone quickly, reads the quarterback pass fast, closes quickly and makes hard hit after catch.</TD></TR><TR class=bg12><TD>6.0</TD><TD>M/M Coverage</TD><TD>Has hips, athleticism and play speed to cover tight ends/running backs in tight man-to-man.</TD></TR><TR class=bg12><TD>6.0</TD><TD>Pass Rush Ability</TD><TD>He has an explosive burst off the ball, can beat tight end/running back blocks and closes on the quarterback fast.</TD></TR><TR class=bg12><TD>6.0</TD><TD>Errors</TD><TD>No horrible mistakes, but does bite on play-action fakes and allows the tight end to get behind him.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE id=section cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=label><TD>ATHLETIC ABILITY</TD><TD align=right>Section Grade: 6.5</TD></TR><TR class=copy><TD colSpan=2>Ellison is a very good athlete and that is what allowed him to be a productive linebacker at Oregon State. He has very quick feet, which combines with his instincts so he can get started quickly toward the ball. His quick feet gives him a burst off the ball when blitzing and he has the agility and hands to defeat the running back/tight end blocks easily. On runs away he accelerates to full speed quickly, has the playing speed to chase down plays in pursuit and has the explosive closing burst to finish plays consistently. He shows his athleticism in his ability to pop up off the ground very quickly when he gets cut to the ground. He has good natural flexibility to get low and take on lead blockers stronger than expected at the point of attack. His athleticism also really shows in his ability to drop very quickly and smoothly in zone coverage, reads the quarterback pass well and breaks and closes very quickly on the ball to make hard hit right after the ball arrives to break up the pass.
</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2><TABLE id=tbl cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=bg0><TD>Q.A.B.</TD><TD>Quick Feet</TD><TD>C.O.D.</TD><TD>Flexibility</TD><TD>Coordination</TD></TR><TR class=bg2><TD>6.5</TD><TD>6.5</TD><TD>6.5</TD><TD>6.0</TD><TD>6.5</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE id=section cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=label><TD>COMPETITIVENESS</TD><TD align=right>Section Grade: 6.0</TD></TR><TR class=copy><TD colSpan=2>Ellison's toughness is what has allowed him to be a productive linebacker despite being short and undersized. He has shown surprising toughness at times taking on lead blockers strong at the point of attack. While he has shown the ability to step up and make big plays in key situations, he has not done it consistently due to his inconsistent play vs. blockers. His overall production has been good, but it tends to vary between very good and barely adequate. He is undersized and struggles to make plays consistently when he has to take-on/defeat a blocker. When he does not use hands aggressively vs. blockers he gets tied up, ridden and eliminated from the play. He is a highly competitive chase player who consistently fights and competes from snap to whistle to make plays in pursuit. He has an explosive closing burst to finish plays. He is a team player who not only was one of the team's defensive leaders, but continued to excel as a coverage man on the punt and kickoff coverage units. While he is not always tough and aggressive vs. blockers, he always hustles and chases hard trying to make plays all over the field.
</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2><TABLE id=tbl cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=bg0><TD>Toughness</TD><TD>Clutch Play</TD><TD>Production</TD><TD>Consistency</TD><TD>Team Player</TD><TD>Pride/Quit</TD></TR><TR class=bg2><TD>6.0</TD><TD>5.5</TD><TD>6.0</TD><TD>5.5</TD><TD>6.0</TD><TD>6.0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE id=section cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=label><TD>MENTAL ALERTNESS</TD><TD align=right>Section Grade: 5.5</TD></TR><TR class=copy><TD colSpan=2>Ellison seems to be a smart player and it shows in his sharp pass drops, good use of hands vs. blockers and ability to bend his knees and explode up into ball carrier to make hard hits/tackles. His instincts help him to burst off the ball explosively as a blitzer and to get started toward the ball fast, which is why he is consistently around the ball. Ellison does not do a good job of maintaining his concentration during games and it shows up most in his inconsistent play vs. blockers and his tendency to stop feet, lunge and miss tackles that he should make.
</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2><TABLE id=tbl cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=bg0><TD>Learn/Retain</TD><TD>Instincts/Reactions</TD><TD>Concentration</TD></TR><TR class=bg2><TD>6.0</TD><TD>6.0</TD><TD>5.5</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE id=section cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=label><TD>STRENGTH/EXPLOSION</TD><TD align=right>Section Grade: 5.5</TD></TR><TR class=copy><TD colSpan=2>Ellison is a shorter/thinner than ideal at under 6-foot-1 and 230 pounds -- he actually looks more like a safety than a linebacker. While he has been a durable linebacker at Oregon State, it's a concern that he is undersized and does not protect his legs from low/cut blocks, so he takes a lot of hits to his lower legs. Heis a naturally explosive linebacker who explodes off the ball when he blitzes and is an explosive hitter when he stays over feet and tackles with good technique. Despite being undersized, Ellison has shown the strength to stack the point of attack vs. lead blockers when he bends his knees and takes them on aggressively at the point of attack. The trouble is that too often he is not aggressive taking on blockers, stays upright and high and can be ridden out of the play way too easily.
</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2><TABLE id=tbl cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=bg0><TD>Body Type</TD><TD>Durability</TD><TD>Explosion</TD><TD>Play Strength</TD></TR><TR class=bg2><TD>4.5</TD><TD>5.0</TD><TD>6.0</TD><TD>5.5</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

justasportsfan
04-30-2006, 01:54 PM
I love this pick ,whatever his name is gonna be a great player.

Bert102176
04-30-2006, 01:54 PM
bites on the playaction, please not anothr Eddie Robinson

Dozerdog
04-30-2006, 01:55 PM
He's undersized. Maybe they can convert him to safety

Michael82
04-30-2006, 01:55 PM
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#1f6884><TD style="BACKGROUND: none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%" target="_blank" bluegradient.gif? images www.nfldraftcountdown.com http:>Keith Ellison</TD></TR><TR><TD align=right colSpan=2>Height: 6-1 <SUP>1/2</SUP> | Weight: 235 | 40-Time: 4.80 </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle>http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerpics/olb/keithellison.jpg
Official Bio (http://www.osubeavers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=24795&SPID=1952&DB_OEM_ID=4700&ATCLID=129530&Q_SEASON=2005)

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</TD><TD vAlign=top>Strengths:
Has great instincts...A very good natural athlete...Productive...Does an excellent job in coverage...Has the frame to get bigger...Solid tackler and good blitzer...Has good range and makes plays all over the field...Active and has a non-stop motor.

Weaknesses:
Undersized and doesn't have either the height or bulk you look for...Needs to get stronger...Will be too aggressive at times...Is not stout at the point...Struggles to take on massive blockers...Might be a bit of a 'tweener without a true position.

Notes:
Began his career at San Diego St. before transferring to a JUCO and ultimately ending up with the Beavers...Probably a weakside prospect for the next level who if nothing else will be a valuable contributor as a backup and on special teams.

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/olb/keithellison.html

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northernbillfan
04-30-2006, 01:56 PM
Our latest pick.

Bio (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2006/ellison_keith)

Bert102176
04-30-2006, 01:56 PM
Dozer we have enough safety's we should of taken Matua the OG

Michael82
04-30-2006, 01:58 PM
yeah who the hell is he
A fine, upstanding young man.

LtFinFan66
04-30-2006, 01:58 PM
He's undersized. Maybe they can convert him to safetyZach Thomas is undersized too and he has done ok as a 5th round pick

Michael82
04-30-2006, 01:58 PM
Dozer we have enough safety's we should of taken Matua the OG

OL? why would we do that? We're more worried about rebuilding our defense entirely.

Michael82
04-30-2006, 01:59 PM
Zach Thomas is undersized too and he has done ok as a 5th round pick
:pray: that he's ANYTHING like Zach Thomas

patmoran2006
04-30-2006, 02:00 PM
Doesnt sound to impressive to me.. To be honest, I dont even know who who he is.

He's also a 6th rounder, about what you can expect.

patmoran2006
04-30-2006, 02:01 PM
Matua from USC still on the board, and we passed again.

Not just us, its everyone. I wonder what happened to him?

Bert102176
04-30-2006, 02:04 PM
pat I was wondering that myself about Matua

LifetimeBillsFan
04-30-2006, 02:07 PM
Another pick for speed on defense. Not sure why the Bills passed on some of the offensive linemen that they could have gone with at this spot, but it seems like they are focused totally on defense in this draft. I guess that they are bringing him in to challenge Stamer at some point for back-up at the OLB. The bio does say that he has some starting potential if he bulks up--so this looks like a developmental pick more than anything else. I don't know enough about him to comment on his chances.

Are Stamer and/or Haggan due to become FAs next year?

G. Host
04-30-2006, 02:09 PM
:pray: that he's ANYTHING like Zach Thomas
Jason Taylor has another sister. Would it make you happy if he marries his sister?

LifetimeBillsFan
04-30-2006, 02:10 PM
Matua from USC still on the board, and we passed again.

Not just us, its everyone. I wonder what happened to him?

I've been wondering that since the third round.... He's the only offensive lineman left that I was interested in seeing the Bills draft at some point (now that Boothe is gone), but now I'm not sure about him because of the way that everyone has avoided him for so long. I heard that he really dominated Ngata when USC played Oregon last year, so I just don't get it....

LtFinFan66
04-30-2006, 02:12 PM
Jason Taylor has another sister. Would it make you happy if he marries his sister?:rofl:

realdealryan
04-30-2006, 02:13 PM
Sensing a pattern


"Active and has a non-stop motor"

LifetimeBillsFan
04-30-2006, 02:17 PM
Well, let's hope that he lives up to the potential that the bio says that he has:

"Overall, Ellison has all the physical tools to be a very productive starting linebacker if he becomes more consistent playing aggressively vs. blockers and bulks up to approximately 240 pounds. An added bonus is that while Ellison is a backup during his first season or two while he bulks up and learns to play more consistently, he will be able to make an impact as a cover man on special teams coverage."

That would be a plus. But, I don't know how you take him over Montavious Stanley or Kevin Boothe with the LB corps the Bills have and their other needs.

Ingtar33
04-30-2006, 03:11 PM
this is a typical 2 deep zone defence outside linebacker.

undersized, and quick/fast with good cover skills.

without linebackers like this, your cover 2 will be exploited

TigerJ
04-30-2006, 03:16 PM
He's not only undersized, he's no speed burner. But then, that's why he was still available. Players don't drop to the 6th round if they don't have warts of some kind.

Billzz
04-30-2006, 03:33 PM
# 96 Jeff Posey
Position: DE
Height: 6-4
Weight: 241
Born: 08/14/1975
College: Southern Miss.
NFL Experience: 9

# 59 London Fletcher
Position: LB
Height: 5-10
Weight: 245
Born: 05/19/1975
College: John Carroll
NFL Experience: 9


This guy is 6-1 and 235 not sure about UNDERSIZED. Seems to me like he can easily put on the extra pounds necessary thru a good workout program. Only concern is the speed at 4.8. Not exactly a burner but who knows about game speed.

Michael82
04-30-2006, 04:36 PM
this is a typical 2 deep zone defence outside linebacker.

undersized, and quick/fast with good cover skills.

without linebackers like this, your cover 2 will be exploited
Thanks for the info! :up:

camelcowboy
04-30-2006, 04:47 PM
Maybe a DE, passrusher type?

Bert102176
04-30-2006, 05:21 PM
well I just hope that all these guys drafted the last 2 days will be what we need to start winning again, I miss seing them in the playoffs kicking butt

Sennsai
04-30-2006, 08:21 PM
He's not SMALL for OLB, but definately not league average size. He would never be a Safety, not with posting 4.80/4.83 in the 40.... boat anchor in the backfield.
Only chance is to be a backup OLB and ST player.