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  • The_Philster
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    • Jul 2002
    • 52180

    Bills' McCargo can haul to the ball

    The Buffalo Bills unwrapped some precious cargo for their neglected defensive line this weekend.

    Defensive tackle John McCargo, a three-year starter on one of the best defensive lines in college football at North Carolina State, was one of Buffalo's two first-round picks in the NFL draft.
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  • ICE74129
    Legendary Zoner
    • Feb 2005
    • 10796

    #2
    Re: Bills' McCargo can haul to the ball

    So according to that article we traded up into the first round to draft a backup? He is the backup to Tripplet in his position according to the article. Where as we could have had a starter at the other DT position with Ngata or Bunkley.

    We we are going to depend on Anderson to pay NT while McCargo rotates in with Tripplet except on percieved passing downs?

    When we can't stop the run again this year, I don't want to hear a word about it.

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    • Dozerdog
      In a jar, on a shelf, next to the unopened Miracle Whip.

      Administrator Emeritus
      • Jul 2002
      • 42586

      #3
      Re: Bills' McCargo can haul to the ball

      Originally posted by ICE74129
      So according to that article we traded up into the first round to draft a backup? He is the backup to Tripplet in his position according to the article. Where as we could have had a starter at the other DT position with Ngata or Bunkley.

      We we are going to depend on Anderson to pay NT while McCargo rotates in with Tripplet except on percieved passing downs?

      When we can't stop the run again this year, I don't want to hear a word about it.
      And if we do- will you finally shut up?

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      • Dozerdog
        In a jar, on a shelf, next to the unopened Miracle Whip.

        Administrator Emeritus
        • Jul 2002
        • 42586

        #4
        Re: Bills' McCargo can haul to the ball

        Here's the problem- People who just don't understand today's football think in such limited terms.

        1 position=1 starter.

        HELLOOOOO......the game is situational now. This defense is looking for a number of rotational DL- guys who go balls-out every play. By rotating them in- they put incredible pressure because they are FRESH every play.


        Down and distance each play will dictate who the "starter" is if you really want to cling to some imaginary title.


        The same will go for our WRs

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        • Meister
          Registered User
          • Jan 2006
          • 30

          #5
          Re: Bills' McCargo can haul to the ball

          If you draft a player in the first round to be a "situational" player he better be a damn good one. Somehow I doubt you would lable Seymour or Taylor as such. If you have a clear disparity in talent your starter plays every down that is humanly possible.

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          • Mr. Pink
            Peterman Sucks!
            • Mar 2006
            • 35303

            #6
            Re: Bills' McCargo can haul to the ball

            I'm in agreement with Ice here. Generally, you don't draft someone in round one to be a rotational starter. You draft him on the thought that he's an every down starter. And if he's rotating with Triplett except on passing downs when they're both out there, teams aren't going to need to pass very much with Timmy Anderson playing the Nose. We all found that out last year.

            You know just when you start getting positive about the draft/offseason you read things like this. Ugh.

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            • Tatonka
              Registered User
              • Jul 2002
              • 21289

              #7
              Re: Bills' McCargo can haul to the ball

              i was really thinking that mccargo was going to be taking andersons place and mccargo and tripplet would be the two main guys.. with anderson and williams rotating in on occassion..

              that sucks a fat one if anderson is still going to be out there alot.
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              • Jan Reimers
                Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
                • May 2003
                • 17353

                #8
                Re: Bills' McCargo can haul to the ball

                Let's see. . .this article was published the second day of minicamp, meaning it was probably written after one practice session with Triplett, McCargo, Anderson, Williams, et. al.

                Does anyone else feel it's a little early to be assigning starting roles?
                Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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                • ICE74129
                  Legendary Zoner
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 10796

                  #9
                  Re: Bills' McCargo can haul to the ball

                  Originally posted by FunTimesYaY!
                  I'm in agreement with Ice here. Generally, you don't draft someone in round one to be a rotational starter. You draft him on the thought that he's an every down starter. And if he's rotating with Triplett except on passing downs when they're both out there, teams aren't going to need to pass very much with Timmy Anderson playing the Nose. We all found that out last year.

                  You know just when you start getting positive about the draft/offseason you read things like this. Ugh.
                  Agreed but some just dont get it. If we are drafting someone in the first round he starts NEXT TO Tripplet, he doesn't come in as relief FOR tripplet. And you dont' draft a guy to be a situational player. Those guys are 4th round and lower.

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                  • ICE74129
                    Legendary Zoner
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 10796

                    #10
                    Re: Bills' McCargo can haul to the ball

                    Originally posted by Dozerdog
                    Here's the problem- People who just don't understand today's football think in such limited terms.

                    1 position=1 starter.

                    HELLOOOOO......the game is situational now. This defense is looking for a number of rotational DL- guys who go balls-out every play. By rotating them in- they put incredible pressure because they are FRESH every play.


                    Down and distance each play will dictate who the "starter" is if you really want to cling to some imaginary title.


                    The same will go for our WRs
                    HELLLOOOO? What is this 5th grade? An 80's recap or something? Anyway you NEVER use a first round pick on a situational guy...NEVER. All you are tying to do is cover up for Marvs screw up and now that we know McCargos role...it was a ROYAL screwup of a move.

                    We could have had Ngata or Bunkley playing WITH Tripplet. Instead we wasted a draft pick on a guy that will play about 15 or so snaps a game. Relief of tripplet and on some passing downs. Sorry, NEVER with a first round pick.

                    So here is the reality (again that nasty word the homers hate) of the situation. We traded up into the first round, losing a 3rd round pick we really could have used....to take a situational DT. Brilliant. So when we see Anderson getting mowed over AGAIN this year as team run up and down the field, we can thank marv.

                    And BTW...I wonder how Fletcher feels knowing an undersized DT in Tripplet and friggin Anderson are there to try and keep guards off of his ass? Not too happy I would guess.

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                    • ICE74129
                      Legendary Zoner
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 10796

                      #11
                      Re: Bills' McCargo can haul to the ball

                      Originally posted by Jan Reimers
                      Let's see. . .this article was published the second day of minicamp, meaning it was probably written after one practice session with Triplett, McCargo, Anderson, Williams, et. al.

                      Does anyone else feel it's a little early to be assigning starting roles?
                      Jan, if this is the role they are assigning McCargo....it was a Cluster you know what of a pick. Esp when a 3 down guy who can stop the run AND rush the passer was there in Bunkley. And Esp when a possible 3 down guy in Ngata was there to tie up a guard and Center as well as push the pocket AND keep guards off of London Fletchers ass.

                      Fearless prediction...We start Anderson and Tripplet...NE runs for 150+ on us

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                      • Bling
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 13022

                        #12
                        Re: Bills' McCargo can haul to the ball

                        Originally posted by Dozerdog
                        Here's the problem- People who just don't understand today's football think in such limited terms.

                        1 position=1 starter.

                        HELLOOOOO......the game is situational now. This defense is looking for a number of rotational DL- guys who go balls-out every play. By rotating them in- they put incredible pressure because they are FRESH every play.


                        Down and distance each play will dictate who the "starter" is if you really want to cling to some imaginary title.


                        The same will go for our WRs
                        I agree and disagree... Today's NFL is bringing in tons of backups. I hate to boast about the Dolphins, but that's what made them better last year. 2 starting RBs, 2 quality backup QB (I know none of them were starters), great depth at OL, great depth on the DL, great depth in the LB corp that when Seau and Thomas did not play they still managed to play well. It's apparent also in BB's system where he can plug in Troy Brown at CB and still manage. The NFL today is before our eyes revolutionizing itself.

                        However, if you're going to bring in depth, I'm sorry but you don't draft a backup DT in the 1st round. I gurantee that if you drafted Justice in the 2nd or BPA, and drafted another DT later, you would be a better team because of it.

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                        • Tatonka
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 21289

                          #13
                          Re: Bills' McCargo can haul to the ball

                          hey ice.. what happen to the support marv at all costs attitude that you had for about 3 weeks?
                          "All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity." ~ Gordie Howe

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                          • justasportsfan
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 71601

                            #14
                            Re: Bills' McCargo can haul to the ball

                            Originally posted by Tatonka
                            hey ice.. what happen to the support marv at all costs attitude that you had for about 3 weeks?
                            He'LL change his mind.
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                            • Tatonka
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 21289

                              #15
                              Re: Bills' McCargo can haul to the ball

                              he spent weeks dogging anyone who didnt give marv and dick a chance... now he cant stop doing exactly what he complained about. doesnt make any sense.
                              "All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity." ~ Gordie Howe

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