What WR is the Odd Man Out?

[patmoran2006]

The way I'm seeing it right now, I'm befuddled why we resigned Josh Reed and especially why he got $10 million dollars.

Lee Evans is obviously the number one WR and I think Peerless Price will inherit Evan's old #2 job on the outside. Roscoe Parrish and Andre Davis are both candidates for the #3 spot. Sam Aiken isn't much of a WR threat but he's an absolute ACE on special teams. Martin Nance was signed after the draft and is the lone Bills WR with good size. That's six WR right there. You have to assume Reed is making the team given his contract and signing bonus.

Who is the odd-man out in your opinion? I'd assume unless someone gets hurt Nance ends up on the practice squad. But between Reed, Parrish and Davis someone is only going to be the 5th WR. I think the team keeps six because Aiken is so good on special teams.

IMO, Reed was a wasted signing and his money would have been better served to put towards signing a true 1-gap nose tackle. Every move can't be a great move, but I really don't like this one, especially after bringing in Davis and Price as well.

[venis2k1]

the thought of Martin Nance with a few years under Tyke Tolbert is very exciting to me.

[patmoran2006]

32 other teams obviously know something I dont, because I was shocked he wasn't drafted.. I had him penciled in as a late-first day pick in my mock draft, and at worst I figured he'd go fourth round.

Good for the Bills with that move, but I still hate the Reed signing

[Marvelous]

Nance is the odd man out. Oh boohoo! He has facinating upside and is very popular for a udfa but i don't see him beating out Reed or parrish or Davis.
+we got Aiken..Man!

[YardRat]

They kept seven last year, didn't they?

[MVP]

I see our roster being
Evans
Price
Davis
Parrish
Reed
Nance

I say Jonathan Smith, Wilson will be cut, we really don't need either, and Aiken could stay on the practice squad, we really don't need him on special teams with the additions of Bowen, and The Rookies.

[Tatonka]

I see our roster being
Evans
Price
Davis
Parrish
Reed
Nance

I say Jonathan Smith, Wilson will be cut, we really don't need either, and Aiken could stay on the practice squad, we really don't need him on special teams with the additions of Bowen, and The Rookies.

i see the same.. although aiken wont be on the practice squad..

aiken might be good at special teams.. but he can easily be replaced.. we have the coaching on special teams in place to make any of our young hungry guys good special teams players.. plus we just added bowens as a special teams ace too.

[Tatonka]

btw, i love that group of receivers listed

[G. Host]

The way I'm seeing it right now, I'm befuddled why we resigned Josh Reed and especially why he got $10 million dollars.
The reason why you befuddled is:

You do not like the player and obvious talent evaluators at OBD who have actually worked with him and studdied his film do
You do not realize or would rather not include in discussion that it was a contract which was heavily weighted in later years of 4 year contract

Even those in the press get it in their mind that "so and so" is not a good player and refuses to consider all evidence contrary. Glenn Parker was a big whipping boy for press and when he left he was able to contribute to Giants making it to Superbowl.

[justasportsfan]

Prior to the OL getting killed Reed thrived well in the Gilbride passing game. Since we will be passing a lot, maybe Fairchild sees Reed fitting in well with his schemes.

[ParanoidAndroid]

I see our roster being
Evans
Price
Davis
Parrish
Reed
Nance

I say Jonathan Smith, Wilson will be cut, we really don't need either, and Aiken could stay on the practice squad, we really don't need him on special teams with the additions of Bowen, and The Rookies.

Aiken cannot be added to the practice squad...the rules won't allow it. I agree with that list if we keep 6. Aiken is the odd man out unless he can beat out Davis or Price. We could also end up keeping 7 in which case Aiken is a keeper.

I think that play to erase the shutout that Reed made at the end of the NE game showed us exactly what he is capable of. He had a pretty good rookie season as a 3rd to Moulds and Price, but hasn't been put into very good situations since.

[patmoran2006]

The reason why you befuddled is:

You do not like the player and obvious talent evaluators at OBD who have actually worked with him and studdied his film do
You do not realize or would rather not include in discussion that it was a contract which was heavily weighted in later years of 4 year contractEven those in the press get it in their mind that "so and so" is not a good player and refuses to consider all evidence contrary. Glenn Parker was a big whipping boy for press and when he left he was able to contribute to Giants making it to Superbowl.

a. You are right, I do not like Josh Reed. He's had FOUR years to prove he's a valuable player and he's failed in anyway to do so; unless you consider the 48 catches for 602 yards and 2 touchdowns in his THIRD and FOURTH seasons COMBINED as being productive.

b. To the best of my knowledge, Reed got like a $2.5 million signing bonus so how is that a heavily weighted contract in the later years?

Now if Reed was brought back out of necessity because nobody else was available that would be one thing.. But we signed Andre Davis before and Peerless Price after resigning Reed, and we still have a second-round pick from just a year ago at receiver as well (Parrish) as well as Aiken. Maybe it's only my opinion, but Reed was a waste of money.

I like the competition aspect at every position, but we have 7-8 WR's vying for spots, while in the meantime Tim Anderson has all but been handed a starting position at defensive tackle.

[FlyingDutchman]

so our second round pick from last year might end up being fourth on the depth chart...tim anderson is another second round pick that needs to start producing.

[patmoran2006]

so our second round pick from last year might end up being fourth on the depth chart...tim anderson is another second round pick that needs to start producing.

Through dumb luck of sorts, Tim Anderson has become a CRITICAL part of this football team. He NEEDS to step up and be an excellent run stuffer or we're going to get run all over again in 2006.

[YardRat]

Aiken will make the team...if they keep six, Nance will be on the practice squad...if they keep seven Smith and Wilson won't beat out Aiken or Nance.

Josh Reed is the best blocking receiver we have and will be in the slot when the option to run or pass is still available. Parrish will play the slot on obvious passing downs.

Just IMO.

[patmoran2006]

What about Andre Davis then?

I agree with you about Reed as well. He got a $2.5 million signing bonus, he better be on the field A LOT, if he's not, then our front office really dropped the ball by bringing him back.

The Bills will keep six WR's, and I also think Aiken stays on the team. I think Nance goes on the practice squad for 2006 while we see if Peerless Price has really turned his career around or if he's the bum he's portrayed himself on the field to be the past few seasons.

I didnt even mention Wilson or Smith.. Say buh-bye to them two.

Maybe they can bring Hadad back so they can cut him again as well...

This is going to be either one extremely UNDERATED core of WR's who can kill you with speed, or a seriously DEFICIENT core of WR's.

BTW, I love Nance, I hope he makes the team. I'd rather have him than Roscoe Parrish, I don't care how high he was drafted last year.

[Dozerdog]

so our second round pick from last year might end up being fourth on the depth chart...tim anderson is another second round pick that needs to start producing.Tim Anderson wasn't a 2nd round pick. We traded it up for JP Losman

[Meathead]

putting nance on the practice squad is a big risk

aiken has never produced as a wr

reed had great chemistry with losman, made as many key catches as anybody and is a terrific downfield blocker

aiken will be waived

[Meathead]

I love Nance, I hope he makes the team. I'd rather have him than Roscoe Parrish, I don't care how high he was drafted last year.
i think you reached on that pick

[TigerJ]

I think Nance will end up on the practice squad.

[Akhippo]

Evans is a lock for #1

Reed will get the slot (overpaid for 4 yrs of mediocrity, should have been a one year deal)

Price will get the Y (will get short leash, cut if Davis outperforms him)

Parrish should get 4th receiver time if not slot position

Only going by hearsay on Aiken and his special team ability, but he'll have to fight Nance for a spot unless Price/Davis get cut.

I would say if Nance shows any potential he should get the nod over those that have plateaued.

[billsburgh]

Tim Anderson wasn't a 2nd round pick. We traded it up for JP Losman
wasn't he a 3rd round pick? and yes it is time that he start to produce NOW.

[X-Era]

The way I'm seeing it right now, I'm befuddled why we resigned Josh Reed and especially why he got $10 million dollars.

Lee Evans is obviously the number one WR and I think Peerless Price will inherit Evan's old #2 job on the outside. Roscoe Parrish and Andre Davis are both candidates for the #3 spot. Sam Aiken isn't much of a WR threat but he's an absolute ACE on special teams. Martin Nance was signed after the draft and is the lone Bills WR with good size. That's six WR right there. You have to assume Reed is making the team given his contract and signing bonus.

Who is the odd-man out in your opinion? I'd assume unless someone gets hurt Nance ends up on the practice squad. But between Reed, Parrish and Davis someone is only going to be the 5th WR. I think the team keeps six because Aiken is so good on special teams.

IMO, Reed was a wasted signing and his money would have been better served to put towards signing a true 1-gap nose tackle. Every move can't be a great move, but I really don't like this one, especially after bringing in Davis and Price as well.

Sam Aiken is the odd man out to me. Doesnt have the best speed, and hasnt progressed as a WR after this many years.

I think Nance takes his spot.

[Night Train]

Root for the laundry. The names matter little.

They're just cattle.

[G. Host]

Tim Anderson wasn't a 2nd round pick. We traded it up for JP Losman
Mr Nasty was talking about WRs and specificly Speedy Gonzeles, the mouse of a WR from Miami not Tim Anderson. That is the problem when people change tracks mid thread.

[Mahdi]

Maybe Nance wasnt selected because he doesnt have top-end speed? I think Nance can add 5 pounds and become and Anquan Boldin type receiver for us. His size and production make it hard for me to see him on the practice squad.

[mysticsoto]

Maybe Nance wasnt selected because he doesnt have top-end speed? I think Nance can add 5 pounds and become and Anquan Boldin type receiver for us. His size and production make it hard for me to see him on the practice squad.

He should make for an excellent possession receiver and for a red zone threat. From what I hear, he's pretty strong also - ideally he'd bump off Reed, but for some reason, every coaching staff seems to hold on to him thinking he has potential though he always falls short.

[bigbub2352]

I think the receivers could be outstanding for us, they r young but experienced and also have outstanding speed something u can't teach, I think Aiken should be the odd man out, we drafted his replacement on special temas two guys Ko simpson, ashton youboty, are prime candidates to replace anything that aiken brings to the table as a STer, plus you could see Reed go it would not be a crazy cap hit it is a very back loaded deal and no money from what i have heard is guranteed, it will be interesting

[justasportsfan]

People say Parrish is too small. Davis is injury prone. Why would you get rid of Reed who has been durable? I doubt reed is going anywhere. He bailed out JP quite a lot. I would think Davis or Price would go before Reed does.

[Mr. Pink]

Our WRs for this year....

1. Evans-obviously the choice for the number 1 this year, hopefully Price with experience and ability to produce at the 2 spot takes some pressure and double teams off him. Evans ability to contribute in this offense lays a lot on the shoulders of Price and the rest of the WR corps.
2. Price-Only guy with experience in the role of being a number 2. Can catch and run routes as well.
3. Reed-Here for his blocking abilities and route running, more or less.
4. Davis-Burner who is oft-injured.
5. Parrish-Smurf with sprinter speed. Needs to bulk up or will killed by an NFL safety or linebacker.
6. Aiken-ST monster.

P/S-Nance and then allocated to NFLE next year.

Next year, if all develops like this and Nance progresses well through the practice squad and NFLE, I could see Parrish as the odd man out among the group. He'll be given another year to somewhat bulk up and add size to his small frame, which poses a problem in and of itself, if he bulks up to about 180-185, does he lose the speed? Problem is he needs to bulk up to at least 180 or else he is nothing more than a guy who comes out and runs nothing but streaks and fly patterns.

If Parrish can bulk up and keep the speed, Reed will most likely be on the outs with Nance developing properly next year.

[Drive 4 Five]

Ok not sure why you guys are so high on Price. If I remember correctly, there were a substantial amount of fans on this forum going on and on about how bad he stunk ever since he left Buffalo.

All of a sudden he is back and now everyone sees him winning the number 2 spot? I like Price. I wish he had never left. And I most certainly hope he can regain some of his old form.

However, if memory serves me correctly, he wasn't even able to earn a starting spot with Dallas last year, playing with his old QB, whom he had his best years playing with.

[tat2dmike77]

I say Smith is the odd man out. He had a few games a couple of years ago as a decent KR but we have McGee and so he is useless there. The other WR will be more effective the smith. Besides the guy calls himself freddy still can't figure that one out. :idunno:

[Mr. Pink]

Ok not sure why you guys are so high on Price. If I remember correctly, there were a substantial amount of fans on this forum going on and on about how bad he stunk ever since he left Buffalo.

All of a sudden he is back and now everyone sees him winning the number 2 spot? I like Price. I wish he had never left. And I most certainly hope he can regain some of his old form.

However, if memory serves me correctly, he wasn't even able to earn a starting spot with Dallas last year, playing with his old QB, whom he had his best years playing with.

The only reason why I put Price as the number 2 WR is because none of the rest of these guys have done or in my estimations are able to.

Davis-wasn't able to get the job done in Cleveland, getting hurt and pushed down the depth chart. Eventually losing his job to Joshua Cribbs-an UDFA QB who the Browns turned into a WR/KR. Davis' main role on Cleveland was relegated to KR specialist his last offseason/camp in 05 when he was traded to NE who subsequently decided not to resign him.

Reed-A classic possession receiver minus good hands.

Parrish-Too small to viably compete at the NFL level right now. Nothing to do with his height, due to his small frame and lack of mass.

Aiken-Special Teamer. No more, no less.

Nance-needs development. But could surprise in camp and knock one of the 6 out of Buffalo.

[Drive 4 Five]

The only reason why I put Price as the number 2 WR is because none of the rest of these guys have done or in my estimations are able to.

Davis-wasn't able to get the job done in Cleveland, getting hurt and pushed down the depth chart. Eventually losing his job to Joshua Cribbs-an UDFA QB who the Browns turned into a WR/KR. Davis' main role on Cleveland was relegated to KR specialist his last offseason/camp in 05 when he was traded to NE who subsequently decided not to resign him.

Reed-A classic possession receiver minus good hands.

Parrish-Too small to viably compete at the NFL level right now. Nothing to do with his height, due to his small frame and lack of mass.

Aiken-Special Teamer. No more, no less.

Nance-needs development. But could surprise in camp and knock one of the 6 out of Buffalo.

I agree with this assessment. Spot on. So basically we better hope someone at the TE position steps up BIG time.

[Drive 4 Five]

I think the Bengals Kelly Washington could be a viable option. Cincy is looking to trade right? Why bring yet another option at WR? Because it sounds as if there are some huge "if" with this unit.

Dare I say it? I agree with Pat. Why pay Reed 2.5 million up front for his lacklsuter (at best) performance in his four years here?

[justasportsfan]

Why pay Reed 2.5 million up front for his lacklsuter (at best) performance in his four years here?


Just like people say Moulds was a victim of bad coaching, no OL and musical chairs at the qb position, the same can be said about Reed. Maybe the new coaches think with the proper schemes and with their guidance, he can achieve that potential he was once thought to have. :idunno:

[Drive 4 Five]

Just like people say Moulds was a victim of bad coaching, no OL and musical chairs at the qb position, the same can be said about Reed. Maybe the new coaches think with the proper schemes and with their guidance, he can achieve that potential he was once thought to have. :idunno:

Reed was outstanding his first year. Outstanding. It seemed as if he was always making the clutch play and he caught nearly everything. It is just mind-boggling the way his play has fallen since then.

That said if he can regain any of that old form it will be well worth the risk.

[Don't Panic]

Reed never should have been resigned, but since he was, I think Davis will be the odd man out. He has the most cut-friendly contract of the "established" guys. All of this, of course, is dependent on the fact that Nance shows something and Aiken is still valued for special teams.

[justasportsfan]

Reed was outstanding his first year. Outstanding. It seemed as if he was always making the clutch play and he caught nearly everything. It is just mind-boggling the way his play has fallen since then.

That said if he can regain any of that old form it will be well worth the risk.they figured out Drew Bledsoe. They figured pressure Drew and he'll be throwing Bricks which is what exactly happened.

Funny thing is that Reed did better with a rookie qb w/ Drew in his 2nd and 3rd year. This means, give him a decent qb, he'll get better. that's my opinion.

Plus he's a high character player :couch:

[Michael82]

Andre Davis is the odd man out. He'll probably get injured sometime before the season. :ill:

[mysticsoto]

Andre Davis is the odd man out. He'll probably get injured sometime before the season. :ill:

I thought I read he got "turf pinky" when he signed the contract...

[DaBillzAhDaShiznit]

We'll keep 6 wideouts. Evans, Reed, Parrish, Price, Nance and Smith

Davis won't overwhelm, and is easier to cut due to 1 yr contract. They won't want to chance putting Nance on practice squad. Smith is more versatile than Aiken, and Nance fills his need area.

This is assuming that Nance shows his stuff on special teams, which I believe he will.

[Michael82]

We'll keep 6 wideouts. Evans, Reed, Parrish, Price, Nance and Smith

Davis won't overwhelm, and is easier to cut due to 1 yr contract. They won't want to chance putting Nance on practice squad. Smith is more versatile than Aiken, and Nance fills his need area.

This is assuming that Nance shows his stuff on special teams, which I believe he will.
Smith? :lmao:

[Saratoga Slim]

I think Evans, Reed, Parrish are locks. Davis, Price, Nance are near locks, its their job to lose. Aiken and/or Smith will make it if a) they show up and prove that they're worth a roster spot and b) either Davis, Price or Nance have to falter by injury or ineptitude

[mysticsoto]

Smith? :lmao:

I have to agree...I definitely take Davis over Smith - even Aiken over Smith. In fact, I'd keep 7 WRs due to Davis' injury prone seasons...

[casdhf]

I don't think Nance is a lock to make the team. Every single team, Buffalo included, had a shot at him and passed.