Re: Ranking 15 best wide receivers in 2024 NFL Draft class
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Originally Posted by kgun12
I really like Ladd McConkey, only 5-10 but runs a 4.39 and is probably the best route runner in the draft. I also like Roman Wilson, also 5-10 and runs 4.39 Maybe McConkey is late 1st .
Younger and better Cole Beasley. Injury history concernes me but if he falls done ro 4th , I'll take him
04-07-2024, 02:20 PM
justasportsfan
Re: Ranking 15 best wide receivers in 2024 NFL Draft class
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Originally Posted by kscdogbillsfan1221
i see mcconkey being a guy. likely available at 28. but maybe that's too high?
Cole Besely 2.0. His injury history worries me and hes not an over the top guy. I don't think they take him at 28.
04-07-2024, 06:35 PM
cookie G
Re: Ranking 15 best wide receivers in 2024 NFL Draft class
Kinda suprised Ricky Pearsall of FLorida isn't on the list.
900 yards last year for the Gators.
Athletically, he's there. If you are a RAS, guy, he scored a 9.78.
6'01" 190 lbs.
4.41 forty, which is equal to Troy Franklin.
42" vertical
6.64 cone
4.05 shuttle
known as a very good route runner and great hands. Dropped 6 balls in his career.
Had the best catch in college footall last year (right at the beginning of the vid).
knocks on him are that he might have trouble against press coverage, but then most college WRs do.
He might not do one thing great (except his hands..which are great), but he does many things very well.
He checks a good deal of boxes. I doubt he makes it to 60.
04-07-2024, 06:37 PM
tomz
Re: Ranking 15 best wide receivers in 2024 NFL Draft class
McConkey AND Tez?
04-07-2024, 07:49 PM
cookie G
Re: Ranking 15 best wide receivers in 2024 NFL Draft class
Kinda suprised Ricky Pearsall of FLorida isn't on the list.
900 yards last year for the Gators.
Athletically, he's there. If you are a RAS, guy, he scored a 9.78.
6'01" 190 lbs.
4.41 forty, which is equal to Troy Franklin.
42" vertical
6.64 cone
4.05 shuttle
known as a very good route runner and great hands. Dropped 6 balls in his career.
Had the best catch in college footall last year (right at the beginning of the vid).
knocks on him are that he might have trouble against press coverage, but then most college WRs do.
He might not do one thing great (except his hands..which are great), but he does many things very well.
He checks a good deal of boxes. I doubt he makes it to 60.
04-07-2024, 08:17 PM
Ingtar33
Re: Ranking 15 best wide receivers in 2024 NFL Draft class
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Originally Posted by Goobylal
The top 3 QBs will be gone by the 3rd overall pick. After them (and at best I can see 1 of them succeeding) it's a bunch of also-rans.
i'm not really a fan of any of the QBs in this draft. i think a bunch of teams will regret drafting one this year... though i'll admit i've only looked at the so called top3.
04-08-2024, 08:17 AM
kgun12
Re: Ranking 15 best wide receivers in 2024 NFL Draft class
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Originally Posted by kscdogbillsfan1221
i see mcconkey being a guy. likely available at 28. but maybe that's too high?
I really like him and I see him in mocks going as high as 20, which is a little high. But he’s going to be a good one!
04-08-2024, 09:45 AM
Woodman
Re: Ranking 15 best wide receivers in 2024 NFL Draft class
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Originally Posted by Ingtar33
i'm not really a fan of any of the QBs in this draft. i think a bunch of teams will regret drafting one this year... though i'll admit i've only looked at the so called top3.
I hope the first 3 take QB's .... if we're lucky and other teams trade up for their QB it could be even better.
04-08-2024, 11:37 AM
Ingtar33
Re: Ranking 15 best wide receivers in 2024 NFL Draft class
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Originally Posted by Woodman
I hope the first 3 take QB's .... if we're lucky and other teams trade up for their QB it could be even better.
I just don't see it with Caleb Williams, he reminds me of Zach Wilson; I didn't see it with him either. He benefits from a lot of junk you can get away with in college, and really loathes throwing the ball into tight coverages; I keep watching film trying to figure out why so many people are so high on him and it just doesn't make sense to me, he has really poor feel for the pocket, and got sacked/hit way too much waiting for a WR get "college open". Never was on board with the Nix, Penix or Maye... this is just an underwhelming QB class.
04-08-2024, 11:53 AM
kgun12
Re: Ranking 15 best wide receivers in 2024 NFL Draft class
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Originally Posted by Ingtar33
I just don't see it with Caleb Williams, he reminds me of Zach Wilson; I didn't see it with him either. He benefits from a lot of junk you can get away with in college, and really loathes throwing the ball into tight coverages; I keep watching film trying to figure out why so many people are so high on him and it just doesn't make sense to me, he has really poor feel for the pocket, and got sacked/hit way too much waiting for a WR get "college open". Never was on board with the Nix, Penix or Maye... this is just an underwhelming QB class.
I agree with all this and I don’t like his attitude, body language and pouting when things are going well.
04-08-2024, 01:24 PM
notacon
Re: Ranking 15 best wide receivers in 2024 NFL Draft class
For the record, I pay attention to two analysts rankings and grading. Scouts Inc. (ESPN) and Dane Brugler, The Athletic. The both offer up their Top 100 players irrespective of position and within that the position rank. Scout's Inc. provides a grade.
Both of them have more or less the same players within their top 100. Scou7ts Inc has two (#92 & #96) that Brugler does not.
Although they do not match up perfectly with overall ranked, they DO match 100% in position rank of the top 17 WR's.
Scouts Inc. OVL Rank
Scouts Inc. WR Rank
Scouts Inc. Grade
Dane Brugler OVL Rank
Dane Brugler WR Rank
Marvin Harrison
2
1
95
2
1
Malik Nabers
4
2
94
3
2
Rome Odunze
7
3
93
7
3
Adonai Mitchell
23
4
90
14
4
Brian Thomas
24
5
90
28
5
Xavier Legette
28
6
89
34
6
Ladd McConkey
29
7
88
35
7
Xavier Worthy
33
8
87
40
8
Keon Coleman
37
9
87
45
9
Ricky Pearsall
45
10
85
46
10
Troy Frankin
52
11
84
49
11
Roman Wilson
70
12
79
54
12
Brenden Rice
80
13
78
64
13
Jalen McMillian
81
14
77
65
14
Malachi Corley
82
15
77
78
15
Javon Baker
86
16
77
80
16
Devontez Walker
88
17
76
97
17
Ja'Lynn Polk
92
18
75
Jermaine Burton
96
19
74
04-08-2024, 01:44 PM
notacon
Re: Ranking 15 best wide receivers in 2024 NFL Draft class
Last year I kept track of Scout's Inc overall rank and position rank, and the actual draft results. The first six WR chosen they were pretty close on overall rank. What was amazing is that they pegged the order the WR's would go extremely closely.
Almost all of them were right on or off by one position. They had Smith-Njigba and Zay Flowers as first two off the board, which they were.
The next three were slightly off.
3rd off the board was Jordan Addison, Scouts had him going 4th. 4th off the board was Quentin Johnson, Scouts had him going 3rd. 5th off was Jonathan Mingo, Scouts had him going 6th.
I suspect they will be similarly accurate for 2024.
04-09-2024, 12:13 PM
Woodman
Re: Ranking 15 best wide receivers in 2024 NFL Draft class
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Originally Posted by kgun12
I agree with all this and I don’t like his attitude, body language and pouting when things are going well.
Let's hope every team looking for a QB make the mistake of gobbling them up early. :D
04-10-2024, 12:43 AM
Ingtar33
Re: Ranking 15 best wide receivers in 2024 NFL Draft class
i suspect the reason we traded diggs is because the bills probably have 8-9 WRs all given a high to mid first round grade this year and they just don't see how they'll all be gone by the time we draft.
04-10-2024, 03:00 AM
DraftBoy
Re: Ranking 15 best wide receivers in 2024 NFL Draft class
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Originally Posted by cookie G
Kinda suprised Ricky Pearsall of FLorida isn't on the list.
900 yards last year for the Gators.
Athletically, he's there. If you are a RAS, guy, he scored a 9.78.
6'01" 190 lbs.
4.41 forty, which is equal to Troy Franklin.
42" vertical
6.64 cone
4.05 shuttle
known as a very good route runner and great hands. Dropped 6 balls in his career.
Had the best catch in college footall last year (right at the beginning of the vid).
knocks on him are that he might have trouble against press coverage, but then most college WRs do.
He might not do one thing great (except his hands..which are great), but he does many things very well.
He checks a good deal of boxes. I doubt he makes it to 60.
He doesn’t play anywhere near the level of speed or athleticism that he tests at which I would bet is why you’re not seeing him higher. Hands are great, but lots of doubts about if he has the quickness to slip coverage a slot guy in the NFL. He has shown some route manipulation to beat defenses in the SEC, but he’ll need to prove that is truly intentional on the white board and in visits as opposed to an under developed route tree.
04-10-2024, 05:25 AM
DetoxTent
Re: Ranking 15 best wide receivers in 2024 NFL Draft class
That was one hell of a stickum catch, cookie.
04-10-2024, 09:31 AM
Woodman
Re: Ranking 15 best wide receivers in 2024 NFL Draft class
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ingtar33
i suspect the reason we traded diggs is because the bills probably have 8-9 WRs all given a high to mid first round grade this year and they just don't see how they'll all be gone by the time we draft.
That was definitely considered in their calculation. :cheers:
04-13-2024, 11:29 AM
cookie G
Re: Ranking 15 best wide receivers in 2024 NFL Draft class
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Originally Posted by DraftBoy
He doesn’t play anywhere near the level of speed or athleticism that he tests at which I would bet is why you’re not seeing him higher. Hands are great, but lots of doubts about if he has the quickness to slip coverage a slot guy in the NFL. He has shown some route manipulation to beat defenses in the SEC, but he’ll need to prove that is truly intentional on the white board and in visits as opposed to an under developed route tree.
Maybe. I've seen a few people say it early on. But idk, I found a YT video last week that had every catch and target for him. The times he looked "slow" or at least not-so -fast, were the times he was moving into a soft area of a zone. That's a completely different type of route. Many of the catches when he did so were late. IF the QB would have gotten him the ball earlier, you would have probably seen more YAC.
I have no idea how he is going deep, since he wasn't used that way very often.
Most people I see had him ranked between 8-10 WR, which in this year is pretty good. I think his stock has risen after the Senior Bowl.
Its why it surprised me that he wasn't in the top 15. But then, its a SB Nation article.
IF all he can do is play short or intermediate routes, we got enough guys in the middle of the field in the 5-15 yard range.
But I really don't know how good he is at the deep ball.
04-13-2024, 01:54 PM
notacon
Re: Ranking 15 best wide receivers in 2024 NFL Draft class
Quote:
Originally Posted by kgun12
I really like Ladd McConkey, only 5-10 but runs a 4.39 and is probably the best route runner in the draft. I also like Roman Wilson, also 5-10 and runs 4.39 Maybe McConkey is late 1st or early 2nd, but I don't think he get passed KC.
From what I have read about McConkey, he has the same skill sets as both Shakir and Samuel. Not to say the Bills won't consider him.
04-13-2024, 02:01 PM
Mad Max
Re: Ranking 15 best wide receivers in 2024 NFL Draft class
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Originally Posted by Goobylal
The top 3 QBs will be gone by the 3rd overall pick. After them (and at best I can see 1 of them succeeding) it's a bunch of also-rans.
All of this years crop of QBs are “also rans”.
I’d be shocked if even one turned out to be great.
Jayden Daniels probably has the highest likelihood of becoming a star the rest are future backups.