Re: Collins has a meeting scheduled with the Bills
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Originally Posted by
Mr. Miyagi
I understand, but that is not my point. I'm saying that he cannot reenter the draft in 2016. I don't believe any players has ever done that, go undrafted and enter the draft again the following year.
You are not allowed to re-enter the draft if you were not drafted the previous year. You are allowed to re-enter the draft if you *were* drafted but didn't sign. See: Bo Jackson.
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MitchMurrayDowntown
HTF then do teams sign undrafted free agents the night after the draft ends? They have to meet someone in order to get a signed contract.
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There is only a fine if the visit occurs on campus or at the player's residence. Ryan met with him at a restaurant.
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Originally Posted by
Albany,n.y.
HTF then do teams sign undrafted free agents the night after the draft ends? They have to meet someone in order to get a signed contract.
The player's agent.
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SpikedLemonade
The player's agent.
That's the company line, but seriously-would you sign something a representative handed you without ever talking to the person who wrote the original contract, especially in a profession like football where you'd like to know directly what their plans are for you? Also if they can relay all that to the agent but can't talk directly to the player, it is just a stupid system that needs change.
Re: Collins has a meeting scheduled with the Bills
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Originally Posted by
Albany,n.y.
That's the company line, but seriously-would you sign something a representative handed you without ever talking to the person who wrote the original contract, especially in a profession like football where you'd like to know directly what their plans are for you? Also if they can relay all that to the agent but can't talk directly to the player, it is just a stupid system that needs change.
I am not defending the system, but these young athletes do put a lot of faith in their agents.
I think normally when they go undrafted, they are just happy to go anywhere and will go where ever their agent tells them to go.
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If the Bills were interested, they should have spent a 7th on him. Take the guess work out. Remember the Bills were interested in signing Cameron Wake before the Dolphins? I just like Buffalo is always be at a disadvantage to Miami when it comes to signing player.
Re: Collins has a meeting scheduled with the Bills
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Originally Posted by
SpikedLemonade
I am not defending the system, but these young athletes do put a lot of faith in their agents.
I think normally when they go undrafted, they are just happy to go anywhere and will go where ever their agent tells them to go.
The system is a stupid as when 2 siblings swear they're not talking so one says, right in front of the other "Mom, tell Johnny to stay out of my room." and Johnny respond "Mom, tell her I'd rather be in a tub of boiling oil than be in her room."
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Originally Posted by
SpikedLemonade
I am not defending the system, but these young athletes do put a lot of faith in their agents.
I think normally when they go undrafted, they are just happy to go anywhere and will go where ever their agent tells them to go.
Then he doesn't sign a contract with us & gets to re-enter the draft next year, his own agent admitted that he needed to be drafted 3rd or sooner (or that would happen).
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Because he was not drafted this year, he cannot refuse to sign and re-enter the draft next year.
All he can do is sign with some team now or later.
No more drafts for him.
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chernobylwraiths
why do I keep thinking of Rae Carruth?
Because you just read post #28?
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The kid is an undrafted free agent. Why the **** can't teams meet with him? The NFL has become such a joke.
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SpikedLemonade
I hope you are right.
I hope Rex's ass can cash all the checks his mouth writes.
He's not. Rex Ryan is a buffoon with the media.
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Originally Posted by
sudzy
If the Bills were interested, they should have spent a 7th on him. Take the guess work out. Remember the Bills were interested in signing Cameron Wake before the Dolphins? I just like Buffalo is always be at a disadvantage to Miami when it comes to signing player.
As has been stated. If any team signed him in the 5th round or below, the player could have refused to sign and re-entered the draft in 2016.
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Originally Posted by
Albany,n.y.
HTF then do teams sign undrafted free agents the night after the draft ends? They have to meet someone in order to get a signed contract.
They don't sign them. They agree to terms with them verbally.
That's why all the UDFA news for the first 36-48 hours comes with a disclaimer that these are not official. The contracts aren't all signed until the official announcement comes from the team.
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Originally Posted by
Albany,n.y.
The system is a stupid as when 2 siblings swear they're not talking so one says, right in front of the other "Mom, tell Johnny to stay out of my room." and Johnny respond "Mom, tell her I'd rather be in a tub of boiling oil than be in her room."
Absolutely not true.
negotiating a large contract with a future employer can be awkward--its why many companies have senior management negotiate directly with HR for a salary. if you and your employer have a large discrepancy in what you think youre worth and what he thinks youre worth, it can call into question everything from your value to the company, to what the day-to-day functions of your job even are, and make going into work monday morning awkward.
agents create that buffer.
very essential in big deals.
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JohnnyGold
Absolutely not true.
negotiating a large contract with a future employer can be awkward--its why many companies have senior management negotiate directly with HR for a salary. if you and your employer have a large discrepancy in what you think youre worth and what he thinks youre worth, it can call into question everything from your value to the company, to what the day-to-day functions of your job even are, and make going into work monday morning awkward.
agents create that buffer.
very essential in big deals.
I'm not talking about the need for an agent. I'm saying how ridiculous it is that a team can have no direct contact with a player when in reality the agent can be on one line with the team & one line with the player and they can basically talk with each other through the 3rd party. It's exactly the same as 2 kids at a table telling their mother what to say to the other kid. The NFL is treating young adults like they're still children & they can only talk with mommy or daddy & not directly with the kid.
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Have none of you guy's ever been devorced? The first thing a attorney wants to do is get an order of protection. The last thing the attorney wants is for a couple to work things out on their own.
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when you got devorced was it from your sister
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We should offer first round money if we really want him.