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What do you have to say about Vanek now?
All you naysayers of Vanek (and you know who you are so don't deny it!)
Lets see...
you said that he's lazy
you chewed him up and spit him out
you said he couldn't score
Well what do you have to say now he's got 31goals not to mention he had 43 goals last season
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hey had one good month plus one good game.
Going into tonight, he had 2 points in the last 9 games.
you're living in the moment and not taking his full season into account. BTW, unless he gets 12 points in the next 8 games, he's BEHIND where he was last year. Considering he's only averaged .42 points per game, it's highly unlikely that he's going to triple that and average 1.5 ppg over the last 8. He's supposed to be the new leader, but he's behind where he was last year- instead of taking charge, he's regressing.
Please think before posting next time.
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I say if he didn't tank the first half of the season, maybe we wouldn't be on the outside looking in right now.
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I was at the game tonight. Other than finally living up to his big contract and earning his money in the third period he was absolutely pitiful just like the rest of the team for two thirds of the game so I wouldn't let your nipples get too hard over him.
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Why do people have to say things like this? The guy has been a big disapointment this year. All money aside and what he should be doing, he has to be better than he was this season. I don't think it is wrong for people to want big things from Vanek.
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What do I have to say about Vanek? It is about time he showed up.
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Originally Posted by TheGhostofJimKelly
Why do people have to say things like this? The guy has been a big disapointment this year. All money aside and what he should be doing, he has to be better than he was this season. I don't think it is wrong for people to want big things from Vanek.
It isn't people, it is LW, did you expect anything else?
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He is lazy...............he was terrible in the second period
All we want is consistency............play harder on defense
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He's a streaky scorer who will give you games like last night. But not every night.
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For the sake of argument, Op, how many "good months" did he have last year? It's only fair.
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Originally Posted by Jan Reimers
He's a streaky scorer who will give you games like last night. But not every night.
Just like Satan.
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Ovechkins worse night is about par to how we usually see Vanek. Vanek is a dull bulb so far that flickers bright sometimes but then fades out all over again.
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We should have taken the draft picks. :snicker:
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He is very Satan-ish.. shows up for a quarter of the season, while disappearing for the rest :sadwalk:
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Originally Posted by RockStar36
For the sake of argument, Op, how many "good months" did he have last year? It's only fair.
Vanek actually got BETTER as the season went on last year. I remember I thought he was a weak link at the beginning of the season, but after the new year he went on a tear.
This year, he started slow and when he heated up in February, I had some hope for him. But then he cooled off again in March. Like several people already said, he's streaky and he doesn't put in a full season. At times he doesn't put in a full game.
To be fair, it's not entirely his fault. The FO is trying to use him like a Drury or an Ovechkin or a Crosby/Malkin and he's simply not that caliber of player. But LW is still dead wrong- Vanek is behind where he was last year and has not stepped up the way his contract and role on the team suggests he should.
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but he folded like a cheap suit in the playoffs last year....
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Someone told me this stat about Vanek today. 17 of his goals were against teams that are not currently in the playoffs. I am not trying to say anything negative or positive, just thought that was a little interesting.
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Originally Posted by TheGhostofJimKelly
Someone told me this stat about Vanek today. 17 of his goals were against teams that are not currently in the playoffs. I am not trying to say anything negative or positive, just thought that was a little interesting.
That makes sense. About half of goals and about half of the teams make the playoffs.
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Originally Posted by OpIv37
hey had one good month plus one good game.
Going into tonight, he had 2 points in the last 9 games.
you're living in the moment and not taking his full season into account. BTW, unless he gets 12 points in the next 8 games, he's BEHIND where he was last year. Considering he's only averaged .42 points per game, it's highly unlikely that he's going to triple that and average 1.5 ppg over the last 8. He's supposed to be the new leader, but he's behind where he was last year- instead of taking charge, he's regressing.
Please think before posting next time.
Losman has a tendency not to understand things...
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You folks are nuts. The Sabres are a top knotch club and there is not a whole lot of reasonable comparison between Vanek and Satan.
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not at all. It's BS to compare Vanek to Satan.
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Originally Posted by Typ0
You folks are nuts. The Sabres are a top knotch club and there is not a whole lot of reasonable comparison between Vanek and Satan.
If you mean top "notch" club who is goes on serious losing streaks through out the year and fighting for thier playoff lives with a very realistic chance of NOT making the playoffs, then Yes, they are a top notch club. IF a top notch club was leading the league in scoring, they should be fighting for home ice advantage not for their playoff lives. "Top Notch Club", now that is funny.
Satan vs. Vanek. Both European, both make boat load of money, both show up occasionally in a game, both are very streaky, both seem very moody. Vanek isn't Satan yet but with 7 year contract in his hip pocket, he is well on his way. He'll be a New York Islander in less than 3 years, ok, maybe 4.
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And it seems the worse teams bring out the best in Vanek. For what he is making he needs to be a hell of a lot more consistent. The cream is definately not rising in this case.
As far as comparing Vanek to Satan, you have different linemates and too many intangibles to really compare the two. All I can say if Thomas' last name was Jesus, this thread would become way too funny.
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I think Vanek is both a better player and goal scorer than Satan, but he does have that streakiness in common.
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Originally Posted by LOSman WINS
All you naysayers of Vanek (and you know who you are so don't deny it!)
Lets see...
you said that he's lazy
you chewed him up and spit him out
you said he couldn't score
Well what do you have to say now he's got 31goals not to mention he had 43 goals last season
I have been behind Vanek the whole time.
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Originally Posted by SabreEleven
If you mean top "notch" club who is goes on serious losing streaks through out the year and fighting for thier playoff lives with a very realistic chance of NOT making the playoffs, then Yes, they are a top notch club. IF a top notch club was leading the league in scoring, they should be fighting for home ice advantage not for their playoff lives. "Top Notch Club", now that is funny.
Satan vs. Vanek. Both European, both make boat load of money, both show up occasionally in a game, both are very streaky, both seem very moody. Vanek isn't Satan yet but with 7 year contract in his hip pocket, he is well on his way. He'll be a New York Islander in less than 3 years, ok, maybe 4.
I mean top notch club from top to bottom. I believe they are built right and just going through some change right now. I'm not worried. They've gotten up towards the top before and they will ascend there again.
Satan is a veteran player with a very bad me attitude. Don't think it's fair at all to put that on Vanek. Give the kid a year or two to mature and see if he grows into his role on this team before you throw him away as the garbage Satan is.
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Originally Posted by Typ0
I mean top notch club from top to bottom. I believe they are built right and just going through some change right now. I'm not worried. They've gotten up towards the top before and they will ascend there again.
Satan is a veteran player with a very bad me attitude. Don't think it's fair at all to put that on Vanek. Give the kid a year or two to mature and see if he grows into his role on this team before you throw him away as the garbage Satan is.
I think that they were "built right" a year ago, but when you get beat not only in the game but physically punished like Ottawa did to us in the EC Finals, you have to get bigger. We sat idle and did not get bigger and now look at us.
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Originally Posted by Buffatexas
I think that they were "built right" a year ago, but when you get beat not only in the game but physically punished like Ottawa did to us in the EC Finals, you have to get bigger. We sat idle and did not get bigger and now look at us.
and we trounced Ottawa the year before too. Too much wining about how good we were last year and how bad we are this year. That's my point. The organization is built well for the long-haul and will rise up again. The real question should be whether or not the players are willing to come and play here if you ask me not how committed this team is to winning.
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Originally Posted by Typ0
and we trounced Ottawa the year before too. Too much wining about how good we were last year and how bad we are this year. That's my point. The organization is built well for the long-haul and will rise up again. The real question should be whether or not the players are willing to come and play here if you ask me not how committed this team is to winning.
I think that this edition of the team would do as well, IF it was last year. Unfortunately, the speed game, which we excel at, is changing. Teams are getting bigger. They are crashing the net more and are not hesitant to get in the way of shooters. I do not see the Sabs doing that. We lack size and strength. I would say that if we make some key moves in the offseason to bulk up, then we will be in a lot better shape
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Originally Posted by SabreEleven
If you mean top "notch" club who is goes on serious losing streaks through out the year and fighting for thier playoff lives with a very realistic chance of NOT making the playoffs, then Yes, they are a top notch club. IF a top notch club was leading the league in scoring, they should be fighting for home ice advantage not for their playoff lives. "Top Notch Club", now that is funny.
Satan vs. Vanek. Both European, both make boat load of money, both show up occasionally in a game, both are very streaky, both seem very moody. Vanek isn't Satan yet but with 7 year contract in his hip pocket, he is well on his way. He'll be a New York Islander in less than 3 years, ok, maybe 4.
Vanek is Austrian not European
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Originally Posted by LOSman WINS
Vanek is Austrian not European
Tell me, just where do you think Austria is located?
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Originally Posted by LOSman WINS
Vanek is Austrian not European
Ok, Kelly Pickler
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Vanek is Austrian not European
:spit:
That post should put this thread in the HOF
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I think you meant this :)
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not at all. It's BS to compare Vanek to Satan.
I agree. It is plain ******ed. Satan was a pussy who would cost around the outside never giving up anything to fight to the front of the net. Vanek lives in that area and is constantly battling. I will agree that he needs to be less streaky but I don't buy the fact that he is a defensive liability. He was a +40 last year for christ sakes. I think that Giant contract he signed made him press WAAY to hard early and it showed. He will be fine.
I saw someone compare him to Ovechkin. WHY? Whats the point. Ovechkin is the best player in the league.
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Originally Posted by LOSman WINS
Vanek is Austrian not European
Dumbest post in zone history.
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Originally Posted by Typ0
and we trounced Ottawa the year before too. Too much wining about how good we were last year and how bad we are this year. That's my point. The organization is built well for the long-haul and will rise up again. The real question should be whether or not the players are willing to come and play here if you ask me not how committed this team is to winning.
You're insane.
A lot of the "young" guys were part of the last two playoff runs, yet you still think they need more experience? You still think they're going to get better? That's illogical.
We have a lot of guys who are due to be FA's after '09, and I'm partially hoping for an off-season fire sale. Keep Hecht, Roy, Pominville, Tallinder, Paille and Kaleta (the last two on potential), maybe Vanek and maybe Miller. Entertain trade offers for everyone else but only bite if the right offer comes along.
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Originally Posted by LOSman WINS
Vanek is Austrian not European
:rofl:
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I think it is very reasonable to compare Vanek to Satan. However, they're not 100% alike. As Thurm stated, Vanek will go to the front of the net and give up his body to make plays. On the other hand, he will not take a guy on in the corners or throw a check...just like Satan. He also is very similar to Satan in his work ethic. Both players play when they want to and do not skate hard all the time. So, yes...these players do have similarities.
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Vanek goes in front of the net.
Satan does not
Satan has a hard slapshot
Vanek does not
Aside from those differences, they're basically the first human clones
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Originally Posted by JD SabreFan
Vanek goes in front of the net.
Satan does not
Satan has a hard slapshot
Vanek does not
Aside from those differences, they're basically the first human clones
Well, Satan never got $11 million for one season.... :ill:
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Well, Satan never got $11 million for one season.... :ill:
Well thats not Vaneks fault. I would have accepted the offer sheet if I was garaunteed that money, too.
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Originally Posted by LOSman WINS
Vanek is Austrian not European
LOL!!!!!
how could i miss this
someone is about to unseat the great paladin warrior in my sig
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Originally Posted by Crisis
LOL!!!!!
how could i miss this
someone is about to unseat the great paladin warrior in my sig
:rofl: That took a lot of effort....didn't it?
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Originally Posted by Crisis
LOL!!!!!
how could i miss this
someone is about to unseat the great paladin warrior in my sig
Wait.. he was serious?
:roflmao: