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Per Twitter just now
With that nasty contract out of the way, let's make this happen.
Might still want a nasty contract. We'll see.
According to Hopkins interview, he said he would like to play with Allen, Hurts, Mahomes, Jackson, Herbert. Of those, which team does not have an established #1 receiver? Chiefs and Ravens.
Come to buffalo
I felt that this was going to happen, but expected it to be a Post-June 1 cut. Cardinals just ate up a huge cap hit for this year, but seemingly had no choice.
If Beane can fit the contract in the books, IMO Hopkins is a MUST sign. We aren't any closer to the Super Bowl than we were last year, and IMO the Chiefs and Bengals are still a notch above Buffalo at this point. We have a WR1 in Diggs, and a bunch of WR3s who don't strike much fear into our opponents.
I don't care that Mahomes doesn't have a WR1. He's proven (so far) to be a better QB than Allen, he has a better offensive line, and a much better offensive mind in Andy Reid. Mahomes also has a hall of fame TE in Travis Kelce, who will go down in history as the one of the top 5 TEs to ever play.
Meanwhile, Joe Burrow has two WRs that would be "WR1s" on most other teams.
DHopkins coming to Buffalo would change the dynamic of this offense and put us in serious Super Bowl contention. Beane will have to mortgage the future a bit to do it, but it is worth it.
Hopkins is 30, and in recent years, is injury prone. The other factor is whether a team has already paid their #1 receiver, because it is not realistic to have a $45 million QB and 2 $25 million receivers on the same team for any lengthy period of time.
When the Bills signed Deonte Harty, McKenzie said himself he was livid right away. Imagine now with Diggs. The only way I see it happen for the Bills is that everyone, including Hopkins, realizes that he's no longer the lead dog in the WR room and he is willing to take a back seat on a prove-it deal.
Letting Hopkins sign with KC (or Baltimore) would be a huge mistake. Mahomes with Hopkins and Kelce? Might as well run the tape on the 2007 Patriots.
Obviously, I am not saying we should sign Hopkins for $20 million plus a year, but I think he can be had for much less than that. Hopkins has made many comments about his admiration for Josh Allen, and the Von Miller effect is highly apparent.
I will actually say it would be the opposite situation with Diggs. I think he would be thrilled...
Diggs is upset about losing year after year. Teams can laser focus on Diggs and take him out of the game (e.g Bengals), and last year we weren't able to overcome that.
The last time we had real WR2 production was the Bills-KC playoff game, when Gabe Davis went off for 4 TDs. That's what this offense could look like with DHop and Diggs as WR1a and WR1b. Diggs has always loved his fellow WRs, and even campaigned for Cole Beasley to come back a few weeks ago. He wants to win.
Signing DHopkins would make life easier for Diggs, if you ask me.
It depends on how he prioritizes the big 3:
1. Money - not sure, but I think Ravens have the advantage there
2. Touches - Although he would instantly be the undisputed #1 on BAL, he’d be playing with the weakest of the 3 QBs. He would also probably be the #1 wideout on KC, but likely second in receiving targets to Kelce. On Buffalo, his floor would be the #2.
3. Winning - KC all the way. Chiefs went 17-3 last year with the Burger King B shift at WR. Mahomes is the game’s best winner, Reid is the best and most creative offensive mind, etc.
Buffalo can only best the competition (as they currently stand) in “maybe” touches, but Diggs would have to be all-in on the recruiting pitch and I’m having a hard time seeing that. Hope I’m wrong
How much money is Arizona on the hook for? What's he already getting paid?
Diggs and Hopkins are friends.
I can't argue about the money, but the Chiefs and Bills are similar in that regard. In the end, it just comes down to how Beane or Veach want to structure the contracts in the short and long term. But yes, Baltimore is in the best shape there.
Agree that KC offers a better chance of a Super Bowl ring than Buffalo. In fact, I would even say the Eagles (who would also be in the mix) probably offer him a better chance than Buffalo for a Ring.
I also feel that a trade might have happened on Draft day if Kincaid wasn't available. Beane made the right move there, but now he has the opportunity to snag both.
The one factor we can't overlook is Von Miller... I am convinced that the combination of Josh Allen and Von Miller is enough to make Hopkins sign. If I was betting, I would say the Bills have the best chance to sign DHop, and would go out on a limb to say it will happen.
Call me crazy... but if I was Josh Allen, I would consider taking a small pay reduction to help bring in Hopkins. It would be a very Tom Brady thing to do.
22 mil cap hit for the Cards. They're shooting for the #1 pick.
I still think Diggs has to be in the recruiting triumvirate for the pitch to be successful, and if sukie is right above then hopefully that’s not an issue.
You ain’t lying about Philly either. There is **** all in the NFC right now so that’s a 6-lane highway to the NFCCG at worst
Eagles gave AJ Brown a $100 million 4 year extension, similar to Bills to Diggs. Style wise, AJ Brown is very similar to Hopkins whereas Diggs' game is very different from Hopkins.
Wow. Why would Arizona take such a hit??
Arizona is not the smartest franchise. They just gave a petulant child with **** work ethic the keys to the city
So money is still the big thing? I like the comment that no team believe he is what he was
Buffalo has had interest. The Patriots have had interest. Best I can tell, no one believes he is what he once was, and that will be part of the challenge in acquiring the player. A couple of teams I spoke with before the draft believe $$$ will be the driver in this, more so than… https://t.co/AQUeRoQbPJ
— Mike Giardi (@MikeGiardi) May 26, 2023
If he wants money? Baltimore can give the most. If he wants to go to superbowl? KC/Phily are the best bets. If he wants stats so he can cash in next year? Buffalo passes the ball all the time. If he wants sunny weather? San Diego.
He soon to be 31 and had a 6 game PED suspension last year, correct ? Wow, that's elevating his brand with me.
So get rid of Harty, Sherfield, Davis , PS Shorter or get rid of him too. Shakir sits again.
I thought they were going 12 personnel with the recent top draft pick, meaning only 2 standard outside WR's on the field. ?
Didn't they already redo a lot of deals ? How much more cap issues can they kick down the road ? He's not signing for peanuts.
Legit questions without blinders.
Nothing to worry about at all.
:gobills:
Lost year anyways with their QB on the shelf for part of it. Pair that with one of the worst rosters in the league and you get a tanking team. Might as well take the cap hit when you will be crappy anyways so you can spend when you aren't. Plus they are set for a top 3 pick on their own and get one from the Texans. Might as well go all in on the rebuild.
Bills have 3.1 Mil in cap space.
KC has just over 1 Mil in space.
Who's in charge of the henhouse over there? :rofl:
If it's truly just about the money I can't think of anybody that would want him.
I think he's a steal at 8 million. And especially at his age, it's about money.
Let's at least see if he wants to win or cash in. Now that the cap implications are gone I'm willing to at least talk.
Wonder where he will go now? As he wants to play for a winning team from what he said.
Most rational speculation at this point is Chiefs and Bills. But I am willing to bet there is at least one team that will take a serious run at him (with serious money, in the mode of "you will make us reach the superbowl level" convincing).
Chiefs have some things about money on their hand - Rumours Mahomes wants to redo his deal (way off best paid QB list for the best player), Jones deal is pending (looking at Aaron Donald's level of money).
The upshot is that IF the Bills land Hopkins, healthy or not, we are looking at offensive weapons that can go toe-to-toe with Bengals. No excuse for McDermott, Dorsey, Allen.
He’ll sign with the Jets.
Because they are tanking for a high draft pick.
Decision to take full DeAndre Hopkins cap hit in 2023 proves one thing: The Cardinals are tanking
Bills quarterback Josh Allen could use some help. And receiver DeAndre Hopkins could be the player to provide plenty of it.
DraftKings has installed the Bills as +300 favorites to be the team with which Hopkins takes his next snap, followed by the Chiefs at +400, the Ravens at +650, and the Jets at +750.
DraftKings has Bills as the favorites to land DeAndre Hopkins - ProFootballTalk
This becomes one of the few opportunities that emerge every year for a team to roll the dice on a difference-maker, especially if that team will have to compete with the player if/when he signs with another team. It would seem to be exactly the kind of move for the Bills to make, if they truly want to box out the Chiefs and Bengals and get back to the Super Bowl for the first time in 30 years.
Hopkins, Stefon Diggs, Dawson Knox, and rookie Dalton Kincaid would give Buffalo an impressive array of pass catchers — and it would keep Kansas City and Patrick Mahomes from landing the kind of complement to Travis Kelce and Kadarius Toney that would position the Chiefs for yet another Super Bowl run.
Per multiple sources, the notorious Saint Omni is “running the show” for Hopkins. At least one viable contender for Hopkins’s services is leery about dealing with Omni. And for good reason. Last year, the NFL specifically warned all teams not to deal with Omni or any other non-certified agent in connection with linebacker Roquan Smith.
Although Omni has managed to work in the shadows, or more conspicuously, on behalf of players like Smith and Texans tackle Laremy Tunsil, if a team that otherwise would be aggressively pursuing Hopkins opts to back away because it’s not comfortable dealing with Omni, that necessarily limits the player’s potential options.
DeAndre Hopkins's financial expectations, representation could be an impediment to a deal - ProFootballTalk
Because they are in 100% rebuild mode. There is no reason to keep him on the team, and get the cap hit out of the way ASAP. With two first round picks in 2024, their own and Houston, they could easily both be in the top 5.
Would anyone be surprised if they cut Murray loose after 2024 season? Draft the #1 QB in a 2024 class that is widely seen as much better than 2023??
Murray’s last year of guaranteed salary is 2024....$35M. They cut him loose (or trade him to some stupid team) and the cap savings for 2025 is a hopping $33M.
Overthecap provides nominal cap pace projections for next five years based on current contracts. Even with Murray’s huge cap hit, they are projected to be under the cap in 2024 by $51M....in 2025 under the cap by $161M.
This ditching of Holpkns now (on the wrong side of 30) is a no-brainer. The QB position will probably not be settled for some time.
Bringing in Hopkins makes sense in terms of adding a real #2 to the team and relegating Davis to a more limited 3/4 role which is where he should be. Adding Hopkins after drafting Kincaid doesn’t make a ton of sense to me given you have to feed Hopkins the ball to keep him happy and get him going.
I get the can’t have enough weapons argument, but the only question on offense that matters is Allen getting back to where he needs to be.
I don’t think that KC is going to bid for him. They don’t need him. The mistake that too many assumed when they traded Tyreek Hill was that the offense would take a big hit.
How did that work out??
KC’s offense runs through Mahomes and KELCE. He has been their most prolific receiver every year he’s been on the team (his first year (2013) he was inured and hardly played).
Every year since then he has been with the #1 or #2 receiver in catches or yards....several of those years both.
Can the Bills use Hopkins? Absolutely. WR is one of the weakest positions on the team, which is why that position was almost completely overhauled this off season with a 50% turnover. The most of any position by far.
Kincaid could be an amazing addition. So could Harty and Sherfield, but despite Davis being better than some off the opinions here, there is no question that he has not secured the #2 WR spot as hoped.
I, (and a lot of other posters) objected to a trade for Hopkins. The main obstacles were giving up anything for him...even late round draft picks, and especially being saddled with his contract.
Now, those impediments are taken away. It’s time for the Bills to get serious.
I have held the maxim, and proved it with the facts, that teams do not, in almost ANY circumstances, have two players in the same position that are within the top 10 ranked by AVG/Y.
The Bills already have the #7 highest paid WR. #10 highest paid WR in AVG/Y (after Hopkins was released, before that he was the #3 at $27.2M AVG/Y) is Keenan Allen at $20.025M.
$20M seems like too much to pay a 31 year old WR who has only played 19 of the past 32 games.
Signing a contact right around what OBJ just got, $15M, structured to allow the Bills to stay within the cap without too much kicking the can down the road with restructured of others aging vets, would seem what Beane is aiming for, or should be aiming for.
If it gets into some kind of pissing match on money....forget it. We don't need him that badly.
Interesting to see what the Fins do when Waddle cashes in. Two top 5 WRs under contract… sounds like a cap issue.
I don't want to see them pay 15 mil for a guy who has played 19 of 32 games the past two years. Tbe result is predictable. They have weapons. Use them appropriately. It's a desperation move...not a move for sustained success.