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The Babe hit the HR's with a mush ball. Today's baseball is made to fly.
Both players were great I'd add Mickey and Henry to the discussion but the Bambino stands alone.
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The home run's place in baseball changed dramatically when the live-ball era began after World War I. First, the materials and manufacturing processes improved significantly, making the now-mass-produced, cork-centered ball somewhat more lively. Batters such as Babe Ruth and Rogers Hornsby took full advantage of rules changes that were instituted during the 1920s, particularly prohibition of the spitball, and the requirement that balls be replaced when worn or dirty. These changes resulted in the baseball being easier to see and hit, and easier to hit out of park. Meanwhile, as the game's popularity boomed, more outfield seating was built, shrinking the size of the outfield and increasing the chances of a long fly ball resulting in a home run. The teams with the sluggers, typified by the New York Yankees, became the championship teams, and other teams had to change their focus from the "inside game" to the "power game" in order to keep up.
Prior to 1931, a ball that bounced over an outfield fence during a major league game was considered a home run. The rule was changed to require the ball to clear the fence on the fly, and balls that reached the seats on a bounce became ground rule doubles in most parks. A carryover of the old rule is that if a player deflects a ball over the outfield fence without it touching the ground, it is a home run.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_run
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Dude
This thread sucks.
At Least My Thread Had BACON :-)
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babe ruth? willie mays?
gimme ty cobb. all day. every day.
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JATMtheJATM
babe ruth? willie mays?
gimme ty cobb. all day. every day.
Not you too?
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coastal
You're getting this confused with soccer.
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coastal
Maybe somebody should threaten somebody else to spice things up a little bit in this thread.
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WagonCircler
Also:
At Bats Ruth- 8398 ->Mays ->10881
2B-506--------->Mays---->523
3B-136--------->Mays --> 140
HR-714--------->Mays ---- > 660
BA-.342-------->Mays--->.302
OBP-.474-----> Mays----> .384
SLG-.690------>Mays---->.557
Notice the number of triples Ruth had. Only 4 less than Mays.
But the big thing to note is that any wind disadvantage encountered by Mays is more than offset by the significantly greater number of at bats he had, due in large part to the fact that Ruth was a Pitcher for the first few years of his career (and a great one).
Plus, Mays played 4 years in NY before the Giants moved.
All due respect, you are talking about just hitting. Only one aspect of the game. I believe Mays won at least 10 Golden Gloves.
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WagonCircler
There's absolutely aero evidence to suggest that. This isn't football. We're not talking about Quarterbacks.
Are you suggesting that happens today? Because that's nonsense, and there is still roughly the same percentage of black pitchers.
If you think that's going on, you don't know jack **** about baseball.
Pitchers are gold. If you're from Mars and can snap off a splitter or throw gas, you're pitching.
What you and others are trying to do is make racist comments. You assume that because African Americans make better cornerbacks or shooting guards, that they naturally make better pitchers. Absolute nonsense.
Besides, pitching isn't about intelligence. It's about arm talent. Catchers call most pitches, and it's been that way forever. You simply pulled that out of your ass because it fits some asinine liberal narrative.
Ah you're one of those type of people...I get it now.
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I haven't followed MLB since the mid '80's when the Astros ownership wanted Nolan Ryan (who got a huge crowd at the Dome even on a Tuesday) to take a pay cut. That along with work stoppages and a dumb FA system with no cap. Today, it's just a matter of which team spends the most money. From my understanding, a baseball game is not a cheap ticket, as it was in the past. The NFL is going down that road, with accountants and negotiators being as important as who is Head Coach. My interest is waning and the only thing that keeps me around is I have followed the Bills for 50 years and have an emotional investment.
In general, pro sports have all taken a gigantic **** as far as your entertainment dollar.
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DraftBoy
Ah you're one of those type of people...I get it now.
What, pitcher or catcher? :mbb:
Baseball seriously does bore the hell out of me, though. I find watching golf to be more worthwhile, and I'm not kidding. But that's just me.
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"Slapshot" or "Field of Dreams"?
i win.
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upstart
How many black pitchers are in MLB today ?
Not many black ones, but Japanese and South/Central American? Dozens.
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feldspar
What, pitcher or catcher? :mbb:
Baseball seriously does bore the hell out of me, though. I find watching golf to be more worthwhile, and I'm not kidding. But that's just me.
Not a big fan either, though I do enjoy half price OF seats on Wednesday nights. Good excuse to leave work at 3 and drink in the OF.
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IlluminatusUIUC
Not many black ones, but Japanese and South/Central American? Dozens.
Black kids generally don't take up baseball anymore. Basketball and football are seen as more lucrative and "cooler". The Japanese and Hispanic kids are steeped in the game. I believe in Cuba, baseball is like a religion.
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IlluminatusUIUC
Not many black ones, but Japanese and South/Central American? Dozens.
None of which has anything to do with the question of whether Babe Ruth and Willie Mays face the same level of pitching.
My point is that Ruth's numbers wouldn't have changed one bit had he faced Negro League pitchers, and that the whole "Ruth didn't have to play against black pitchers" conceit is absolute garbage.
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I got an email from the range telling me that they had "heard" that I was trouble accessing the Range. So they reset my password for me. So I went over, and Lo and Behold! Most of the forums are private :D
I find them quite amusing over there.
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WagonCircler
None of which has anything to do with the question of whether Babe Ruth and Willie Mays face the same level of pitching.
My point is that Ruth's numbers wouldn't have changed one bit had he faced Negro League pitchers, and that the whole "Ruth didn't have to play against black pitchers" conceit is absolute garbage.
How about no black players at all?
Does that mean anything?