Re: Are The 2015 Buffalo Bills Going To The Playoffs?
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Originally Posted by
Historian
I think we're going to the SB...and I think we're going to win it.
Not a chance. There is almost no playoff experience on this roster. And we aren't going to take the div so we'd have to win 3 games on the road just to get there.
Re: Are The 2015 Buffalo Bills Going To The Playoffs?
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Originally Posted by
OpIv37
No QB, no OL. Hence, no playoffs.
Here is a FACT for you OpIv, EVERY year, 5 teams make the playoffs that did not make the playoffs the year before.
NFL.com has the Bills as the #2 team expected to make the playoffs that did not make it the year before.
OpIv, can you name 5 teams that did not make the playoffs last year that are unquestionably BETTER than the Bills?
Re: Are The 2015 Buffalo Bills Going To The Playoffs?
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Originally Posted by
better days
Here is a FACT for you OpIv, EVERY year, 5 teams make the playoffs that did not make the playoffs the year before.
NFL.com has the Bills as the #2 team expected to make the playoffs that did not make it the year before.
OpIv, can you name 5 teams that did not make the playoffs last year that are unquestionably BETTER than the Bills?
That's a fact? Prove it.
But we aren't competing for playoff spots with all 32 teams- only with the 16 in the AFC. If 3 or 4 of those 5 are from the NFC, Thant means only one or two teams that didn't make the playoffs this past year would need to be better than the Bills to keep us out of the AFC playoffs.
Additionally, teams don't necessarily have to be better to keep us out of the playoffs. Carolina made it at 7-8-1. Does anyone think they were better than 10-6 Philly or even the 9-7 Bills?
So, your question is fundamentally flawed.
Re: Are The 2015 Buffalo Bills Going To The Playoffs?
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Originally Posted by
OpIv37
We were damn close last year. All we needed to do was beat the Raiders.
Actually - it turned out that wouldn't have mattered. We still would have lost the tie-breaker.
Re: Are The 2015 Buffalo Bills Going To The Playoffs?
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Originally Posted by
better days
Here is a FACT for you OpIv, EVERY year, 5 teams make the playoffs that did not make the playoffs the year before.
I don't think you understand what a "fact" is. Yes, it has occurred a lot recently that a bunch of teams make the playoffs that didn't before. There's nothing that *requires* that to be the case. It's rather stupid to base your argument on that assumption.
Re: Are The 2015 Buffalo Bills Going To The Playoffs?
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Originally Posted by
OpIv37
That's a fact? Prove it.
But we aren't competing for playoff spots with all 32 teams- only with the 16 in the AFC. If 3 or 4 of those 5 are from the NFC, Thant means only one or two teams that didn't make the playoffs this past year would need to be better than the Bills to keep us out of the AFC playoffs.
Additionally, teams don't necessarily have to be better to keep us out of the playoffs. Carolina made it at 7-8-1. Does anyone think they were better than 10-6 Philly or even the 9-7 Bills?
So, your question is fundamentally flawed.
There is no division in the AFC that a team will win with less than a .500 record
Re: Are The 2015 Buffalo Bills Going To The Playoffs?
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Originally Posted by
MikeInRoch
I don't think you understand what a "fact" is. Yes, it has occurred a lot recently that a bunch of teams make the playoffs that didn't before. There's nothing that *requires* that to be the case. It's rather stupid to base your argument on that assumption.
Nothing requires it, but since 1990, at least 4 non playoff teams have made the playoffs every year.
Re: Are The 2015 Buffalo Bills Going To The Playoffs?
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Originally Posted by
better days
There is no division in the AFC that a team will win with less than a .500 record
Yeah but they might win one with 9 or 10 wins and we have 10 or 11 and miss out on tiebreakers.
Re: Are The 2015 Buffalo Bills Going To The Playoffs?
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Originally Posted by
OpIv37
Yeah but they might win one with 9 or 10 wins and we have 10 or 11 and miss out on tiebreakers.
True, that could happen.
But I like the Bills chances this year to finally become relevant & make the playoffs.
So we don't have Brady or Manning, We have a defense that can win games for us.
Re: Are The 2015 Buffalo Bills Going To The Playoffs?
I think they will - they were touted for their "D" last season, the touting continues. They will become a "chic" pick. They have a new owner who is pouring out tons of guaranteed $. The breaks will be made for them.
Re: Are The 2015 Buffalo Bills Going To The Playoffs?
Is there anything more useless than the "strength of schedule"? What any team did last year is meaningless come Sept.
Re: Are The 2015 Buffalo Bills Going To The Playoffs?
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Originally Posted by
sukie
Is there anything more useless than the "strength of schedule"? What any team did last year is meaningless come Sept.
Nah it doesn't matter.
Btw- the league called and they want to change the schedule around, so instead of playing Jacksonville in London, we are going to play the Seahawks in Seattle. You're cool with that, right? After all, strength of schedule doesn't matter in April.
Re: Are The 2015 Buffalo Bills Going To The Playoffs?
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Originally Posted by
sukie
Is there anything more useless than the "strength of schedule"? What any team did last year is meaningless come Sept.
Yeah it doesn't matter.
Even though the same teams consistently make the playoffs. New England, Denver, Indy all will be just as good this year as they were last year as they were the year before that. And the same bottom feeders are the same bottom feeders. Jacksonville is gonna suck this year, just like they did last year and as they did the year before that.
Re: Are The 2015 Buffalo Bills Going To The Playoffs?
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Originally Posted by
IlluminatusUIUC
Every game "could go either way" when
you are dead in the middle of the pack like we were last year. For god's sake this team shut down Aaron Rodgers and then lost to David Carr in consecutive weeks. But that doesn't change that, as of now, we drew a very weak slate of opponents and have far and away our toughest games at home. HFA is not overwhelming, but it's still a thing, and considering the season ticket sales we've been seeing it should be getting stronger this year.
Compare that to some of the teams we'll likely be fighting for the wild card, not only in who we're playing but how comparatively little we have to travel to get there. For example: The AFC North draws the NFC West AND the AFC West this year meaning that not only are they playing some of the toughest teams, but they are making a ****load of cross-country flights. Each of those teams has to make at least four trips to Pacific or Mountain time.
Let me phrase it another way, looking at the 2015 opponents (
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...015-nfl-season), which of those AFC lineups would you trade with?
Yeah the lack of travel for the Bills certainly is a plus, it's one of the things that stood out to me also (other than London, obviously). But, the biggest point is bolded...unless somebody believes the team has progressed above the middle of the pack, there is no validity to the contention that we drew a 'weak schedule of opponents'...many of them are in the same boat as us, certainly not weaker.
Re: Are The 2015 Buffalo Bills Going To The Playoffs?
As far as the question, Illumy, I would trade schedules with any of the teams in the AFC South, I'd much rather be looking at the NFC South on the schedule than the NFC East.
Re: Are The 2015 Buffalo Bills Going To The Playoffs?
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YardRat
Yeah the lack of travel for the Bills certainly is a plus, it's one of the things that stood out to me also (other than London, obviously). But, the biggest point is bolded...unless somebody believes the team has progressed above the middle of the pack,
I do, in the short term. While I think that McCoy is likely to fade off quickly, I don't that happens this year. Similarly, we did improve several other elements of our team in the short term. My problem with this offseason is that these are potentially hindering our future, but for 2015 I think we can see a marked improvement.
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there is no validity to the contention that we drew a 'weak schedule of opponents'...many of them are in the same boat as us, certainly not weaker.
I disagree (see above).
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YardRat
As far as the question, Illumy, I would trade schedules with any of the teams in the AFC South, I'd much rather be looking at the NFC South on the schedule than the NFC East.
Why? To me the NFC South (aside from Tampa Bay) looks like a division where the teams all went through crap seasons at the same time. That's still the same division that produced 11, 12, and 13 win teams in the two prior years. I personally think the NFC South is primed for a rebound much moreso than the AFC South.
Re: Are The 2015 Buffalo Bills Going To The Playoffs?
I wasn't comparing the NFC South (who the AFCS plays)to the AFC South, I was comparing them to the NFC East (who Buffalo plays). To me, the East is stronger by far, and playing the NFCS would = a weaker schedule.
Re: Are The 2015 Buffalo Bills Going To The Playoffs?
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Originally Posted by
Mr. Pink
QB - worse
End of discussion.
Yes. Cleveland's qb situation is worse. I agree.
Re: Are The 2015 Buffalo Bills Going To The Playoffs?
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Originally Posted by
OpIv37
Not a chance. There is almost no playoff experience on this roster. And we aren't going to take the div so we'd have to win 3 games on the road just to get there.
Shuuuuut up
Re: Are The 2015 Buffalo Bills Going To The Playoffs?
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Originally Posted by
BertSquirtgum
Shuuuuut up
Intelligent, well-reasoned response, as usual.