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Wants to draft a franchise qb before leaving. Had to give up so many needs to get one in the draft.
He knows it's been more than a decade since making playoffs but if he starts over with another HC, might have to wait another 12 years. Would rather stay with Chan.
http://audio.wgr550.com/a/65776136/1...anchise-qb.htm
I can't listen to it. Does he talk about the defense and Wannstedt at all?
didn't say anything we don't already know. Lack of consistency. It's not just one guy. Different players give up plays here and there. Repeated what Kyle Williams said that they tend to be excited about whats on paper (lineup) .Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed
Said Dareus started out playing well the 1st 2 games but mediocre in 3 games. Needs to play better. Learning how to be a pro in terms of preparation.
Yeah, Bills look good on paper. Toilet paper. That's why so many teams wpe their butt with/on them.
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Originally Posted by justasportsfan
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Originally Posted by mybills
no argument here.
12 YEARS? That's just insane. It doesn't take a new coach 12 years to get the team going in the right direction. That's just nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by justasportsfan
And you could give Gailey 12 years and we still won't win. He just doesn't have it.
Not what I wanted to hear re: Coaching, but could support the rumors that Gailey and Nix are gone if we dont see some imporvements.
If Nix goes, is the succession plan (Whaley) still in place, or does the organization look to the outside?
Whoa, bud. That quote needs to be put in context.Quote:
Originally Posted by OpIv37
The caller mentioned the Bills being out of the playoffs for 12 years and asked if Chan's job was safe. Nix responded saying something like, well if we start over we could be out of the playoffs for another 12 years.
That's still BS. Plenty of teams have gone from crappy to playoffs in far less time than that. Changing coaches doesn't automatically mean 12 years of rebuilding. That's just a cop out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Fo Sho
Just take a look at 49er's.Quote:
Originally Posted by OpIv37
That's bull****. Please resign Buddy.Quote:
Originally Posted by justasportsfan
Right, but he was clearly exaggerating to get his point across.Quote:
Originally Posted by OpIv37
I don't know. I think he might believe in Chan so much that he thinks he's the only coach to get this team to the playoffs. Also know as, senile.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Fo Sho
Yeah, he may be bat**** cray, I don't know. I was just saying that I thought that quote was an obvious exaggeration. I'm not impressed with Nix or anyone else on this coaching staff.Quote:
Originally Posted by HurkeyNuts
in some ways, they actually have a little more to work with when jauron left. not much depth. but they have a few players at key spots and an OL in place.
a good coach/motivator should be able to get to these guys.
last rebuild, we were left with nothing. here we at least have a run game, a receiver or two, and an OL. D has some pieces in secondary and L. they need LB's
overall they need a motivator who makes the right calls at the right times. i could see a new GM come in with new coach and turn this around in one year.
12 Years. So this is who you chose to save the world. I wouldn't trust them with a potato gun.
Wow, no wonder this team is the cluster**** it is.
In regards to his draft needs, seeing he can't draft anyone anyways, he might as well go for the sure pick and trade all his choices every year for one player. At least we'll get one who can play.
i get that you are joking, turf, but that highlights why the last 3 years of missing on players in rounds 2-7 have hurt so bad. we could trade an entire draft for a qb this year, and we don't hvae the depth to withstand many injuries.
however, if they were a little more effective with depth and talent management, we could go all in and be in a decent spot next year.
We're stuck with these fools until Ralph croaks.
Nix doesn't have what it takes.
Well, when Harbaugh was hired by the 49er's, he inherited a GOOD team. Much like when Tony Dungy was hired in both Tampa & Indy he inherited GOOD teams. When Nix & Gailey took over the Bills the team SUCKED. I doubt any coach or GM could have done any better with what they inherited.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slim
I don't think that was a fair comment. It takes time to learn how to prepare professionally it's a process. Just because he's engaged in some learning curves does not mean he's lazy. Just saying...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Miyagi
“Every year one of two things has happened. You look back and every time we decided to draft (a quarterback) he went before us or there was a guy there that we knew we had to have at another position where we didn’t have anybody.”
A perfect example was last year’s top pick Stephon Gilmore taken with Buffalo’s 10th overall selection.
“Those guys that went the first three or four, we liked those guys too,” said Nix in reference to Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III and Ryan Tannehill. We felt we had to have a guy that could come in and play at corner and by the time we picked again those guys were gone. We got a good player.”
http://www.buffalobills.com/news/art...b-36c9714ad97d
Ugghhh... Not a huge fan of the QB's in this draft.
When Chan Gailey took over in 2010 we had 6 wins in 2009 under Jauron/Fewell and in the 2008 season we were 7-9.Quote:
Originally Posted by better days
When Harbaugh took over in 2011 the 49ers had 6 wins in 2010 and 8 wins in 2009.
So both of these guys took over teams that had 6 wins the season before they were hired and the year before that was basically a wash too.
Harbaugh took over the 49ers and lead them to the NFC Championship game with a QB who was considered a huge bust and hadn't had any success. He was basically on his way out the door and nobody wanted him but Harbaugh turned him around in one season with his coaching, system and play-calling. He turned him into a viable game manager that could control the offense and make plays when needed.
Chan took over and lead us to 4 wins the following season. That's even less then we had the year before he started and the worse season since 2001 when we won 3 games. The year after that we only had 6 wins. This year after his 3rd year we're on pace for around 6 wins once again.
That statement doesn't hold water at all. The 49ers had some young pieces but it took a good coach to turn them and Alex Smith around and into a winning team. Even an NFC Championship appearance team that would've went to the SB if not for their punt returner Kyle Williams fumbling twice.
Gailey took over a team that was consistently around a 7 win team and we've been even worse. His record in the division has been totally abysmal and even how bad Jauron was we were more successful overall and especially in the division.
Then you have teams like Detroit.that didn't win a game in 2008 and only 2 wins in 2009. Jim Schwartz came in and lead them to 10 wins and the playoffs in a couple years.
These are just a couple of examples and there are many more. Gailey was a failed coach before he arrived in Buffalo and he is proving why nobody else in the NFL wanted him as a HC after getting fired after two seasons his first time around. The guy just isn't any good and he is worthless.
We will even go with teams that didn't have very good QB's either. Rex Ryan took over a 4 win team with the Jets and even with a crappy rookie QB in Mark Sanchez he took them to 3 straight winning seasons and two AFC Championship games. It's not like they were stacked with talent.
It's time for the Chan Gailey and Buddy Nix excuse makers to wake up and smell the coffee. There is a reason why none of these guys after this many years in the NFL were not wanted by anybody else in the NFL for the positions they are currently in.
What's worse is what have they done as far as bringing in good players since they have good here? Most of our best players like Wood, Levitre, Byrd and Stevie Johnson were all drafted during the Jauron era. The only player that they have drafted in 3 years that have proved themselves to this point is Spiller and they still won't even give him the ball very much even though he is averaging over 7 ypc. These guys are just a total travesty waiting to happen.
That's why you get aggressive and trade up Buddy, no one is going to hand you a franchise QB.
RGIII price was way too high for us, if the Skins paid that kind of price to move up two spots, imagine what the Bills had to give up. Still could have leapfrogged the Dolphins for Tannehill, a guy I really liked, but I bet the fan base would have exploded. Still remember the guys around here that wanted nothing to do with Tannehill, have fun facing this guy when he actually gets offensive weapons.
They didn't have to trade up for anybody. Andy Dalton was sitting right there in their lap in the 2nd round and they chose Aaron Williams instead. Dalton won't be an elite type QB like Aaron Rodgers, Brady, etc, but he will be a steady next tier starter like a Joe Flacco for years to come.
They were not good.Quote:
Originally Posted by better days
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Originally Posted by BillsFever21
partly agree. partly disagree. harbaugh got a very good defense. the bills were a bend but don't break d that needed to be ramped up and the offense was enemic. they couldn't move the ball.
rex drafted sanchez in that year...i don't think he inherited sanchez.
i agreet hat gailey and nix look less and less like the guys who can get this done. but i think they made a few strides in the right direction. but they rely on this almost pre-Free agency thinking. and that's not going to get it done. you really need a guy to be able to evaluate what his teams strengths are and change the dynamics around that. they are all looking to be pieces in a system they know. but they have enough information to know what works and what doesn't. they need to experiment with trying new things. this was what got jauron run out of town. unable to adapt. lack of trying anything different.
the winners right now know what they got and how to get the most out of it.
No one is worth moving up for this year. Just my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingJofNYC
It's a double edged sword. I think we could easily see one of the top two QB's drop to the 10-15 range. And the difference between these guys in ranking is small enough that you can wait until the 2nd round and get just about the same quality player.
Nix isn't a savvy enough business man for this business.
I agree, this draft is balls. OL/DL heavy draft.Quote:
Originally Posted by X-Era
And yeah, the Niners were not a good team, but they had talent, most of it was already there before Harbaugh stepped foot in SF.
I want:Quote:
Originally Posted by kingJofNYC
ILB- Te'o, Reddick, Bostic, Skov
OLB- Hodges, Jones, Thomas, Jenkins, Collins
WR- Hunter, Woods, Allen, Stills, Wilson
QB- Jones, Smith, Dysert
SS- Lester, Reid, McDonald
You really didn't say very much in such a long post. I don't give a damn about records, I am talking about PLAYERS that were on the team when a Coaching change happened. Both the 49er's & Lions had PLAYMAKERS on their teams when a Coaching change happened. The Bills had NONE.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillsFever21
As for Smith, his abilities fit Harbaughs offense very well. As for the Lions, how are they doing this year? As for the Jets, they signed some GOOD aging vets to short term contracts for a lot of money when Rex was hired, they are now gone & look at the Jets now.
As for Spiller, there were people on this board calling him a waste of a draft pick. Were you one of them?
If we're taking a LB I want Arthur Brown. Elam is another guy I would love to add at the Safety position, he's a junior but may be the best overall safety.
Would also love a DE, we have no depth at that position.
All depends on what Ralph Wilson wants, and I'm pretty sure he hasn't been talking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crisis
Jefferson and Vaccaro are both guys Id put above Elam.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingJofNYC
Is the general thought process that Whaley was brought in by Nix or could it be a "Wilson" move? Just curious because the answer would obviously help determine if Whaley is safe should Nix get nixed.
No Gabberts this X-era? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by X-Era
To me, it sounds like he's worried about his job and doesn't know if he'll be around for the draft.
I still think Gabbert could be good. I'll take heat for that but it's true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slim
As far as this class goes, theres guys I like but none that scream franchise QB to me.
Even if a franchise qb emerges over the next couple months, they're pretty much a lock to be a Chief at this point.
He should be. if the Bills end up 7-9 and worse, Nix and his whole cluster**** should be kicked on the ass on their way out the door.Quote:
Originally Posted by Night Train
But then we get to hear everybody get into the "they want their guys" argument again, and this never stops. I don't believe in half of the stuff that people think is a big deal in this league...it is just a guarantee that many of the same people posting here how much they want somebody's head will be posting that same regurgitated crap the second the first head rolls...and never see the irony.Quote:
Originally Posted by trapezeus