Re: I can't bear any more of Fitzpathetic
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Originally Posted by
starrymessenger
TJ was by himself at the back of the endzone. Many, many touchdowns are scored in exactly that geography. And there is a reason why the pattern calls for a deeper route when the corner is shaqllow - its because you woulod otherwise be running straight into coverage. The Bills org., including JK, are trying to take thye pressure off Fitz.
As for how you are supposed to run the route Gailey himself said you take it deeper (tho he also said he would have to "review the tape").
If you run it 'deep' from the red zone, you run out of real estate. Go back and review some TD's from the last year and a half, and count how many TD passes come from that side, from that route, with the receiver cutting across the face of the defender, not behind him.
Re: I can't bear any more of Fitzpathetic
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Originally Posted by
kishoph
There were 5 receivers on the last play, Stevie (4TD's), Spiller (5 TD's), Chandler (5 TD's), Jones (4 TD's) and the rookie Graham (1 TD), so Fitz decides pre snap that he's going to Graham (listen to his WGR interview), never considering another option, he looked left only to try and freeze the LB (in the interview), not to see another option. Fitz was throwing to Graham, be damned, another case of him panicking and trying for something that was not there.
Well, that pretty much cements Fitz expecting TJ to cut his route in front of the defender now, doesn't it?
Re: I can't bear any more of Fitzpathetic
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Originally Posted by
YardRat
Well, that pretty much cements Fitz expecting TJ to cut his route in front of the defender now, doesn't it?
Not so smart, eh?
Re: I can't bear any more of Fitzpathetic
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Originally Posted by
YardRat
Well, that pretty much cements Fitz expecting TJ to cut his route in front of the defender now, doesn't it?
What kind of quarterback just decides he's going to throw to one guy on a play no matter what without taking any progression? Fitzputrid, that's who. He ****ing sucks.
Re: I can't bear any more of Fitzpathetic
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Originally Posted by
HurkeyNuts
What kind of quarterback just decides he's going to throw to one guy on a play no matter what without taking any progression? Fitzputrid, that's who. He ****ing sucks.
The first time I was able to replay it, you could tell that he only looked left to try freeze the LB and wasn't going through a progression, the look was too fast, had he taken a good look he would have seen that both the LB and corner on that side bit to Spiller and Stevie was alone at the 5 yard line, heading to the endzone. This has become common with Fitz, where he's locking onto one receiver. In the Titans game, the int he threw with 3 minutes left, is a perfect example, before the snap the LB left Chandler uncovered, after the snap Chandler runs a seam route with nobody in front of him and a DT chasing, a good 2 yards behind him, Fitz never once looked to that side of the field, locking onto Jones from the snap, the result, another late in the game turn over, this time giving the ball back to the Titans at mid field allowing to get the game winning TD. I don't care if he throws for 500 yards, if he's gonna continue to turn the ball over at the end of games, he's hurting this team. Plus the decision to go to Graham, who had 1 catch in the game and ignore the 4 receivers out there that had 21 catches between them in the game, was just ridiculous. You don't have to be a Harvard graduate to know that you go to your play makers when the game is on the line, not a rookie that is averaging 2 receptions a game.
Re: I can't bear any more of Fitzpathetic
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Originally Posted by
Mr. Miyagi
Seriously, how many games has he lost for us? I mean, who here didn't KNOW he was going to throw an INT to lose the game today?
He needs to go. Let TJax finish the season 1-6, then we draft a QB in the first round.
Enough is enough.
It's "bare", just saying.
Re: I can't bear any more of Fitzpathetic
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Originally Posted by
Mr. Miyagi
Seriously, how many games has he lost for us? I mean, who here didn't KNOW he was going to throw an INT to lose the game today?
He needs to go. Let TJax finish the season 1-6, then we draft a QB in the first round.
Enough is enough.
He's still our best chance to win, and seeing as how they aren't going to give up on the season, he will continue to start. He has been playing well lately and no one can deny that. Just keeps having that one bad moment at a critical time that is hurting his performance overall.
Re: I can't bear any more of Fitzpathetic
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Originally Posted by
MitchMurrayDowntown
It's "bare", just saying.
LOL no genius. "Bare" is your ass when you came out of your momma's lady part.
Try to know that you're right before correcting somebody next time.
Re: I can't bear any more of Fitzpathetic
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Originally Posted by
Mahdi
He's still our best chance to win.
Yes, but I don't want to win anymore this season, and limp ourselves into another 7-9 record and picking #10. That way we'll pick no top end QB and then stuck with another 3rd round guy and probably Fitz again next season. It's time to invest heavily on the future, instead of hanging around mediocrity forever.
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mmiyagi, this is the year that the qb class sucks and the guy at 3 and the guy at 10 are probably the same guy.
add to the fact that there is a dolphins team and jets team losing at the same rate as us, we just might have a chance at a wildcard spot if they could get their crap together now. That's ideal. losing out this season won't make much of a difference, i'm afraid.
Re: I can't bear any more of Fitzpathetic
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Originally Posted by
kishoph
If Graham would of took the underneath route (which he did the play before, on the exact route) the ball would of still been way behind him and 5 feet over his head, the only person that had a shot at that pass was the corner.
Wow that's a stretch...
Re: I can't bear any more of Fitzpathetic
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Originally Posted by
trapezeus
mmiyagi, this is the year that the qb class sucks and the guy at 3 and the guy at 10 are probably the same guy.
add to the fact that there is a dolphins team and jets team losing at the same rate as us, we just might have a chance at a wildcard spot if they could get their crap together now. That's ideal. losing out this season won't make much of a difference, i'm afraid.
Too early to know how close the top ten picks are. There could be other positions that emerge that we would want to draft in the top 3 like DE a top S or LB or even a WR who compliments Stevie.
Re: I can't bear any more of Fitzpathetic
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Mahdi
He's still our best chance to win, and seeing as how they aren't going to give up on the season, he will continue to start. He has been playing well lately and no one can deny that. Just keeps having that one bad moment at a critical time that is hurting his performance overall.
If losing games for your teammates at the most critical points is playing well, then I don't want to see him playing bad.
Re: I can't bear any more of Fitzpathetic
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Mahdi
Wow that's a stretch...
I don't think you actually watch the games.
Re: I can't bear any more of Fitzpathetic
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Mahdi
Wow that's a stretch...
Not a stretch at all,McCourty was at the goal line when Graham would of had to decide which way to take it (short or deep), if he would of cut it up he would of been at the 2 or 3 yard line at the very deepest, when he took it deep the McCourty dropped and had to leap to intercept the ball almost 3 yards deep in the endzone, if Graham would of cut the route short at the 2 or 3, do you really think the ball would of been there, when McCourty who was 3 yards deep in the endzone had leap to bring down the int. that's a difference of almost 6 yards. If your able to watch the replay again, freeze the ball when it gets to the goaline, that ball would of been way over Graham's head even at the goal line, let alone at the 2 or 3. Even if Graham is at fault for choosing the wrong "option" McCourty was in position to where Graham would of had to cut it around the 3 yard line or take it deep. Face it, it was a bad pass.
Re: I can't bear any more of Fitzpathetic
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Mahdi
Too early to know how close the top ten picks are. There could be other positions that emerge that we would want to draft in the top 3 like DE a top S or LB or even a WR who compliments Stevie.
If there's an elite LB on the board, I'm all for it. In that case we better trade the farm back into the first round for a QB.
Our WRs are ok and you can find very good complimentary ones in mid rounds.
Re: I can't bear any more of Fitzpathetic
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Originally Posted by
Mahdi
Wow that's a stretch...
Posted this in another thread. McCourty with vertical gets higher than Graham can with vertical. If TJ undercuts McCourty he doesn't get the ball.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/rf/image_...03467584.r.jpg
Stretch? Nah. Reality.
Re: I can't bear any more of Fitzpathetic
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Originally Posted by
FunTimesYaY!
Neither does McCourty. I still fault Fitz for targeting the rookie.