Re: The Bills Have a QB Problem
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Originally Posted by
Bill Cody
Josh may actually miss Daboll. Daboll is a very experienced guy who has seen a lot and he's kind of a relaxed guy. Dorsey always seems like he's on his 3rd red bull. Josh is not a guy that needs to be amped up. He's already amped.
He should be relaxed he grew up in West Seneca ..... go ahead.
Guess who else grew up in West Seneca? :D
Re: The Bills Have a QB Problem
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Originally Posted by
Bill Cody
Josh may actually miss Daboll. Daboll is a very experienced guy who has seen a lot and he's kind of a relaxed guy. Dorsey always seems like he's on his 3rd red bull. Josh is not a guy that needs to be amped up. He's already amped.
It's obvious that Dorsey is in over his head. He has no business maturing with an all time talented qb.
Re: The Bills Have a QB Problem
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Originally Posted by
notacon
I do too. NFL stand for Not For Long.
Or the NFL = tHE nO fUN lEAGUE.
Re: The Bills Have a QB Problem
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Originally Posted by
sukie
I don’t believe we have a QB problem. LB is a bigger concern going forward. Safety is a concern going forward. WR is a bigger problem. if Allen is a problem Orta a problem 26 or do teams would love to have.
This is a super bowl team right now. But not if Josh doesn't clean up the picks. If you can't recognize this I guarantee you Josh can.
Re: The Bills Have a QB Problem
I think it’s lazy to blame Dorsey.
He did not make Josh throw terrible passes that we expect form a raw rookie.
The Bills have been in the position to win every one of the games they lost....the situation that you want.....ball in the offense stands, with the chance to win the game.
Josh is the one who failed. Not Dorsey. Although he does have some work to do. Remember, some posters liked to *** of Daboll too...pretty unfairly too.
Re: The Bills Have a QB Problem
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Originally Posted by
sahlensguy
It's obvious that Dorsey is in over his head. He has no business maturing with an all time talented qb.
Coaches leave and you can't always replace them with Bill Walsh
Re: The Bills Have a QB Problem
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Originally Posted by
sahlensguy
It's obvious that Dorsey is in over his head. He has no business maturing with an all time talented qb.
So far this appears to be true.
What can we do?
Right now not a damn thing comes to mind.
Continuity is far far away!
He should have been able to work Hines into something by now.
Re: The Bills Have a QB Problem
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Originally Posted by
sukie
I don’t believe we have a QB problem. LB is a bigger concern going forward. Safety is a concern going forward. WR is a bigger problem. if Allen is a problem Orta a problem 26 or do teams would love to have.
So, you ave decided to keep on trolling. Jesus.
No sukie, the LEAST of the Bills problems are at LB. The tandem of Milano and Edmunds is one of the best if not THE best in the NFL. Wake the **** up.
WR is NOT a “concern" either. Safety is a potential concern. But it’s not what caused the three loses.
Re: The Bills Have a QB Problem
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Originally Posted by
notacon
I think it’s lazy to blame Dorsey.
He did not make Josh throw terrible passes that we expect form a raw rookie.
The Bills have been in the position to win every one of the games they lost....the situation that you want.....ball in the offense stands, with the chance to win the game.
Josh is the one who failed. Not Dorsey. Although he does have some work to do. Remember, some posters liked to *** of Daboll too...pretty unfairly too.
If my QB is struggling to hit the endzone I definitely don’t call 2 consecutive shots of 20 yards with plenty of time and 2 timeouts. I call underneath stuff. they weren’t giving up deep stuff all game. Why the hurry? 1st and 10 from the 20… why the need for the dagger?
Re: The Bills Have a QB Problem
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Originally Posted by
Bill Cody
Coaches leave and you can't always replace them with Bill Walsh
But sometimes you can replace somebody causing even bigger problems .....
and Walsh may he RIP died 15 years ago.
Re: The Bills Have a QB Problem
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Originally Posted by
Bill Cody
Coaches leave and you can't always replace them with Bill Walsh
No one is at fault for Daboll leaving for a better position.
There is blame to go around for Mc13seconds finding an inexperienced OC because of familiarity and comfort.
Re: The Bills Have a QB Problem
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Originally Posted by
sukie
If my QB is struggling to hit the endzone I definitely don’t call 2 consecutive shots of 20 yards with plenty of time and 2 timeouts. I call underneath stuff. they weren’t giving up deep stuff all game. Why the hurry? 1st and 10 from the 20… why the need for the dagger?
:10: exactly there was no ***** rush dammit.
Run a damn jet sweep with Hines or McKenzie a nice change of pace and who know's they might have broke it wide open. We will only know if we try something different .... these defenses are locked into what we do right now.
Frustrating when this **** is so easy.
Re: The Bills Have a QB Problem
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Originally Posted by
sahlensguy
It's obvious that Dorsey is in over his head. He has no business maturing with an all time talented qb.
To say that “Dorsey is in over his head” is silly.
The Bills are the #1 offensive team measured by avg. yards gained. They are #2 in the NFL in points scored. The Bills are #1 in point differential.
That is NOT a sign of the OC being “over his head”.
Josh Allen leads the NFL in INT’s. Allen leads the NFL with INT’s in the red zone. Those have nothing to do with the OC being “over his head”.
It’s clear evidence of the QB (sometimes) “being over his head” and making stupid decisions and being reckless with the ball.
Re: The Bills Have a QB Problem
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Originally Posted by
sahlensguy
No one is at fault for Daboll leaving for a better position.
There is blame to go around for Mc13seconds finding an inexperienced OC because of familiarity and comfort.
Dorsey was already right there so it made things too easy for McDermott.
Who know's maybe in 3 weeks we'll all be singing his praises :idunno:
Right now he causes angst.
Re: The Bills Have a QB Problem
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Originally Posted by
notacon
To say that “Dorsey is in over his head” is silly.
The Bills are the #1 offensive team measured by avg. yards gained. They are #2 in the NFL in points scored. The Bills are #1 in point differential.
That is NOT a sign of the OC being “over his head”.
Josh Allen leads the NFL in INT’s. Allen leads the NFL with INT’s in the red zone. Those have nothing to do with the OC being “over his head”.
It’s clear evidence of the QB (sometimes) “being over his head” and making stupid decisions and being reckless with the ball.
He's guilty of trying to get cute more than anything else.
His education better get up to speed quick.
Punch an opponent in the mouth when it's called for .... no cute ****.
Re: The Bills Have a QB Problem
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Originally Posted by
sahlensguy
No one is at fault for Daboll leaving for a better position.
There is blame to go around for Mc13seconds finding an inexperienced OC because of familiarity and comfort.
Doubtful that's why he went with Dorsey. Dorsey is a smart guy. Don't be so grumpy. Better days ahead.
Re: The Bills Have a QB Problem
The premise of the thread is true, but in a different way.
Bills FANS have a QB problem. We've been shellshocked by QBs who have shown promise for the past 30 years. Bledsoe looked like the second coming for the first 10 games he was here. Then he ended up stinking (for many reasons, not just him) .
Trent Edwards looked like a future all pro until Adrian Wilson scrambled his brains.
Fitzy looked like a world beater, got a nice contract, then, well, went back to being Fitzy.
Throw in a bunch of turds at QB besides those guys, and it's no wonder we panic when Josh has a couple of bad games in a row. We have been conditioned to think the absolute worst. It's instilled into ALL of us. Some fans are/were able to stifle it away, and become optimistic again, myself included, but any time there's adversity, we cannot help but think the worst. It's not our faults, it's just how we've trained ourselves to think.
Re: The Bills Have a QB Problem
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Originally Posted by
Woodman
So far this appears to be true.
What can we do?
Right now not a damn thing comes to mind.
Continuity is far far away!
He should have been able to work Hines into something by now.
The bed is made for this year. We just have to hope that Josh can pull his head out of ass by himself because outside of Diggs, I don't see anyone else there to give him the help he needs.
Unless they go deep into the post season. A coaching change is absolutely needed to take Josh to the next level.
Re: The Bills Have a QB Problem
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Originally Posted by
sukie
If my QB is struggling to hit the endzone I definitely don’t call 2 consecutive shots of 20 yards with plenty of time and 2 timeouts. I call underneath stuff. they weren’t giving up deep stuff all game. Why the hurry? 1st and 10 from the 20… why the need for the dagger?
Except you have no idea what plays were called. A QB functioning on a high level sees trouble and makes the decision to throw the “underneath stuff” when the other openings are not there or too risky.
This is a skill that Josh has not seemed to master in too any situations. It’s what cost us the Tenn game last year, and his hero ball brain farts are HIS decisions.
With a stud QB like Allen, who has shown a tremendous ability to make those passes many, many times....I don’t blame the OC for calling those plays (if he did).
I suspect that if the situations you are criticizing the play calling and not calling “underneath stuff” and that fails to produce scores, you would be whining that the OC does not go for the dagger, is too conservative and is chicken.
It smacks of hindsight garbage.
Re: The Bills Have a QB Problem
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Originally Posted by
Bill Cody
Doubtful that's why he went with Dorsey. Dorsey is a smart guy. Don't be so grumpy. Better days ahead.
I'm not saying Dorsey is stupid. Probably far from it. But he is still learning the job. Far from the guy who who is needed right now to bring out Josh's full potential. And Josh doesn't have much more to before he is molded into who he is going to be for the rest of his career.
Dorsey got the keys to the Ferrari before he knew how to drive it. If the last few games are the indication, it is headed for a crash.