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coastal's 2013 All-Bills 5 round mock draft and off-season plan
1.) Matt Barkley, QB USC - Pro ready, disciplined, already better than everything else on our roster... not Andrew Luck, but he isn't Ryan Fitzpatrick. In short... although he may drop a bit from the top 5 spot he was assured of at the beginning of the year, Matt is going to start from day 1 in Buffalo and be a welcomed stabilizing change for this franchise.
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2.) Tyler Eifert, TE Notre Dame - Matt needs a second TE in addition to Chandler. We need to go back to a more traditional offense that focuses on our running backs, and moving the chains. What rookie QB doesn't like these safety outlets.
3.) Gerald Hodges, OLB PSU - We need to start replacing this unit and although not from WVU, he reminds me of Daryl Talley.
4.) Matt Scott, QB Arizona - He beat Barkley and would be the perfect backup to keep Barkley motivated.
5.) Braxston Cave, C Notre Dame - backup interior line depth.
Other offseason moves - Russ Brandon fired. Polian hired as CEO.
Nix, Gailey and Wanny all relieved of their jobs.
Doug Whaley promoted to GM.
coaching candidates - Tony Dungy, Chip Kelly
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I can live with this, like the blow-up doll you call a spinner wife.
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I like the Scott pick better than the Barkley one. Swap out the next high-round bust from USC for Te'o in the first and I could live with the rest.
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Russ Brandon being fired would be a dream come true.
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YardRat
I like the Scott pick better than the Barkley one. Swap out the next high-round bust from USC for Te'o in the first and I could live with the rest.
Barkley is already better than Fitz. We need someone more than anything to stabilize the position.
Our total lack of talent is limiting this team every single week.
Scott isn't ready to start in the pros but is a gamer. He's a perfect third stringer behind Jackson.
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You're ready to go into next season w/ the LBs we got?
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coastal
Barkley is already better than Fitz. We need someone more than anything to stabilize the position.
Our total lack of talent is limiting this team every single week.
Scott isn't ready to start in the pros but is a gamer. He's a perfect third stringer behind Thigpen.
Barkley isn't **** until he straps on a big boy's jock strap. I'm not impressed.
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Oaf
You're ready to go into next season w/ the LBs we got?
i like Bradham and I like Hodges.
bring in a free agent to round out the middle and pray we can make it work.
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YardRat
Barkley isn't **** until he straps on a big boy's jock strap. I'm not impressed.
Im not saying hes the savior... but drafting for one is the way you kill a franchise.
btw... he can throw it past 10 yards.
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i think it is pointless doing a mock draft without knowing the draft order and actually picking all the teams picks.
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mrbojanglezs
i think it is pointless doing a mock draft without knowing the draft order and actually picking all the teams picks.
What is actually pointless is all of non-player moves I've proposed are even remotely realistic unless an ownership transition plan is under way.
as of now we have an owner on deaths door and a 1 year stadium lease extension.
no one of consequence is coming into this situation.
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coastal
i like Bradham and I like Hodges.
bring in a free agent to round out the middle and pray we can make it work.
No way this team will compete with the LBs we have and a rookie QB. This team needs to draft the best MLB coming out in the draft and pick up a QB in free agency.
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I want us to do something like draft Manti Te'o in round 1 and EJ Manuel in Round 2. As for cleaning house, I completely agree. And I agree 100% on Chip Kelly as the new head coach. He's the #1 guy on my list right now.
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I'd like Te'o over Barkley as well. But, Barkley isn't a total slouch. Like the Hodges pick. I am an Eifert fan, just not so sure we would take a TE that early.
I'd be good with your draft if you swapped someone like Kevin Reddick in for Tyler Eifert.
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coastal
1.) Matt Barkley, QB USC - Pro ready, disciplined, already better than everything else on our roster... not Andrew Luck, but he isn't Ryan Fitzpatrick. In short... although he may drop a bit from the top 5 spot he was assured of at the beginning of the year, Matt is going to start from day 1 in Buffalo and be a welcomed stabilizing change for this franchise.
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2.) Tyler Eifert, TE Notre Dame - Matt needs a second TE in addition to Chandler. We need to go back to a more traditional offense that focuses on our running backs, and moving the chains. What rookie QB doesn't like these safety outlets.
3.) Gerald Hodges, OLB PSU - We need to start replacing this unit and although not from WVU, he reminds me of Daryl Talley.
4.) Matt Scott, QB Arizona - He beat Barkley and would be the perfect backup to keep Barkley motivated.
5.) Braxston Cave, C Notre Dame - backup interior line depth.
Other offseason moves - Russ Brandon fired. Polian hired as CEO.
Nix, Gailey and Wanny all relieved of their jobs.
Doug Whaley promoted to GM.
coaching candidates - Tony Dungy, Chip Kelly
I doubt you get Eifert in Round 2, Hodges isn't bad value in three, but you're reaching for Scott and Cave you could get as a FA at this point.
Barkley is a limited ceiling prospect who is the most pro ready, but may not be the guy who can win you a game by himself. He's been surrounded with incredible WR talent at SC, and he has continually made mistakes in the Lane Kiffin offense which is a big concern. He's a winner and has plenty of heart, but he's limited physically and that is going to scare some teams.
I dont think either Dungy or Kelly would leave for Buffalo but hey you never know.
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coastal
What is actually pointless is all of non-player moves I've proposed are even remotely realistic unless an ownership transition plan is under way.
as of now we have an owner on deaths door and a 1 year stadium lease extension.
no one of consequence is coming into this situation.
AND that is THE problem.
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coastal
Im not saying hes the savior... but drafting for one is the way you kill a franchise.
btw... he can throw it past 10 yards.
So he just chooses not to? Hi Trent.
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Oh **** your a ND fan too. Please tell me your not a fan of the bulls. i cant take a ****** like you as a fan of all my fav teams
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YardRat
I like the Scott pick better than the Barkley one. Swap out the next high-round bust from USC for Te'o in the first and I could live with the rest.
you can be the bills gm. i like that draft... Te'o is going to be something special. He's one of only like 3 or 4 players i'd take over a QB at this point.
Though i'm not sure i'm sold on scott
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Man, lots of Te'o love. I've watched him for years, and this is easily his best, but I'm not sure he's worth a top ten selection. Maybe I'm missing something.
Bills probably have a shot at winning 2 more games, 3 tops if they get lucky. 5-10 range, take a DE or OL, Pears and Hairston are disposable. I also realized yesterday that we have no Guards signed past this season. Rinehart/Urbik/Levitre are all free agents.
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Chip Kellys offense wont translate to the NFL. Its based on being faster and more athletic than everyone else. That is negated in the NFL
Tony Dungy, good one...
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kingJofNYC
Man, lots of Te'o love. I've watched him for years, and this is easily his best, but I'm not sure he's worth a top ten selection. Maybe I'm missing something.
Bills probably have a shot at winning 2 more games, 3 tops if they get lucky. 5-10 range, take a DE or OL, Pears and Hairston are disposable. I also realized yesterday that we have no Guards signed past this season. Rinehart/Urbik/Levitre are all free agents.
I realized this about our guards when I advocated drafting DeCastro. Then again I said resigning Greer was a #1 priority way back in the day...
But wtf do I know?
Im just a fan... and a Niners fan at that!
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Raptor
Tony Dungy, good one...
Yeah.. that would be awesome, but someone like that doesn't come here with Russ Brandon as CEO.
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coastal
I realized this about our guards when I advocated drafting DeCastro. Then again I said resigning Greer was a #1 priority way back in the day...
But wtf do I know?
Im just a fan... and a Niners fan at that!
I liked DeCastro too, as well as Zeitler, at least they took Glenn.
Warmack is probably better than DeCastro. Couple of good guards in this draft. Warmack/Cooper/Thomas, Thomas can play T too.
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Dude Barkley sucks. He's such a Tim Couch it's disgusting
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coastal
I realized this about our guards when I advocated drafting DeCastro. Then again I said resigning Greer was a #1 priority way back in the day...
But wtf do I know?
Im just a fan... and a Niners fan at that!
Then what the **** are you still here posting for?? Get ****ing LOST!
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SquishDaFish
Then what the **** are you still here posting for?? Get ****ing LOST!
What is your problem?
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coastal
What is your problem?
Wagon wanna be.
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coastal
What is your problem?
Just you as a so called fan
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SquishDaFish
Just you as a so called fan
dude... bring something to the table outside of hating me or stfu.
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Let's take it down a notch.
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Wagon Circler
Dude Barkley sucks. He's such a Tim Couch it's disgusting
Couch really wasn't that bad...he wasn't awesome but the Browns teams he was on weren't exactly set up for him to succeed.
He also did lead the Browns to the playoffs in 02 and broke his leg in the season finale vs the Falcons.
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ICRockets
I want us to do something like draft Manti Te'o in round 1
In the past 12 years only 6 ILB's have been drafted in the 1st round, not saying that Manti Te'o won't be drafted in the first, but I don't see the Bills doing it. Also I think they have to go QB in the first, be it Barkley, Smith, or Wilson.
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kishoph
In the past 12 years only 6 ILB's have been drafted in the 1st round, not saying that Manti Te'o won't be drafted in the first, but I don't see the Bills doing it. Also I think they have to go QB in the first, be it Barkley, Smith, or Wilson.
At this point in the process, I would say the exact opposite will happen if the draft was tomorrow.
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Luckily, there are 4-5 QB's worthy of a 1st Round selection in this draft. Outside of MLB Te'o of ND, I wouldn't consider anything else.
LB's and CB's to fill out the rest of the draft.
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Night Train
Luckily, there are 4-5 QB's worthy of a 1st Round selection in this draft. Outside of MLB Te'o of ND, I wouldn't consider anything else.
LB's and CB's to fill out the rest of the draft.
I honestly can't see more than 2.
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coastal
1.) Matt Barkley, QB USC - Pro ready, disciplined, already better than everything else on our roster... not Andrew Luck, but he isn't Ryan Fitzpatrick. In short... although he may drop a bit from the top 5 spot he was assured of at the beginning of the year, Matt is going to start from day 1 in Buffalo and be a welcomed stabilizing change for this franchise.
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2.) Tyler Eifert, TE Notre Dame - Matt needs a second TE in addition to Chandler. We need to go back to a more traditional offense that focuses on our running backs, and moving the chains. What rookie QB doesn't like these safety outlets.
3.) Gerald Hodges, OLB PSU - We need to start replacing this unit and although not from WVU, he reminds me of Daryl Talley.
4.) Matt Scott, QB Arizona - He beat Barkley and would be the perfect backup to keep Barkley motivated.
5.) Braxston Cave, C Notre Dame - backup interior line depth.
Other offseason moves - Russ Brandon fired. Polian hired as CEO.
Nix, Gailey and Wanny all relieved of their jobs.
Doug Whaley promoted to GM.
coaching candidates - Tony Dungy, Chip Kelly
Might not be far off here on the draft stuff.
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coastal
1.) Matt Barkley, QB USC - Pro ready, disciplined, already better than everything else on our roster... not Andrew Luck, but he isn't Ryan Fitzpatrick. In short... although he may drop a bit from the top 5 spot he was assured of at the beginning of the year, Matt is going to start from day 1 in Buffalo and be a welcomed stabilizing change for this franchise.
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2.) Tyler Eifert, TE Notre Dame - Matt needs a second TE in addition to Chandler. We need to go back to a more traditional offense that focuses on our running backs, and moving the chains. What rookie QB doesn't like these safety outlets.
3.) Gerald Hodges, OLB PSU - We need to start replacing this unit and although not from WVU, he reminds me of Daryl Talley.
4.) Matt Scott, QB Arizona - He beat Barkley and would be the perfect backup to keep Barkley motivated.
5.) Braxston Cave, C Notre Dame - backup interior line depth.
Other offseason moves - Russ Brandon fired. Polian hired as CEO.
Nix, Gailey and Wanny all relieved of their jobs.
Doug Whaley promoted to GM.
coaching candidates - Tony Dungy, Chip Kelly
I like your comments and suggestions but do you really think we could justify taking 2 QB's in the draft with so many holes to fill? Why not a WR and CB instead of another QB and Center. If you have to you, could take a WR and a Guard or WR and CB or S. One of those scenarios!
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Night Train
Luckily, there are 4-5 QB's worthy of a 1st Round selection in this draft. Outside of MLB Te'o of ND, I wouldn't consider anything else.
LB's and CB's to fill out the rest of the draft.
WHAT are you talking about? There might be one: Geno Smith - and that being in the last half of the round. No one else is worthy of a first round selection.
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coastal
dude... bring something to the table outside of hating me or stfu.
It's fun hating on ya. Some of us know you've got wide shoulders to handle it....and a wide ass.:D
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pmoon6
It's fun hating on ya. Some of us know you've got wide shoulders to handle it....and a wide ass.:D
I'm still younger than you mountain ranger.
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coastal
I'm still younger than you mountain ranger.
HaHa, an old man shot?
I guess I have that comin'. If it wasn't for Geritol and wild game meat, I'd probably be pushin' up daisies.
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Swiper
WHAT are you talking about? There might be one: Geno Smith - and that being in the last half of the round. No one else is worthy of a first round selection.
Did you see the date on that post? He said that over five months ago. That's what the pre-draft grinder does to QB prospects. In November they look like slam dunks and by April apparently everybody sucks.
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LOL. I didn't, but it doesn't matter. None of these guys were 1st rounders at that point either. You'd have to go back a year for guys like Barkley and Wilson to be spoken about like that. Five months ago everyone knew that none of these QBs were very good.
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Barkley is a mid to late first round prospect.
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Swiper
LOL. I didn't, but it doesn't matter. None of these guys were 1st rounders at that point either. You'd have to go back a year for guys like Barkley and Wilson to be spoken about like that. Five months ago everyone knew that none of these QBs were very good.
I'm calling BS. Night Train's post was on November 6. On November 3rd, Barkley hosted the #2 Oregon Ducks and hung 5TDs and nearly 500 yards passing on them. Tyler Bray did the same on Troy. Geno Smith was sitting on a 29 to 3 TD/INT ratio. EJ Manuel's Seminoles were in the Top 10 with an outside chance at the National Title game.
This happens to every QB prospect outside of the Lucks and RG3s of the world.
