Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills
They pretty much made it so they can get a guy other than receiver with this move probably too in my opinion. WR isn't a big impact player grab in the draft either we are going somewhere else and looking at guys who drop.
Defense needs a lot of help ...
Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills
Samuel can definitely fly.. (4.31 at the Combine back in 2017).
But he's only broken 700 yards once in his career.
Seems like a great deal of money for waiting for someone to have their breakout year.
But then, look at what Gabe Davis got.
Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills
I guess Beane wasnt kidding when he said he wanted players that are ready to play NOW. No only does Sammuel have experience, but he has experience and had his best year under Brady .
It's Bradys offense now and McDermott is letting him have the weapons he wants.
Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills
Quote:
Originally Posted by
cookie G
Samuel can definitely fly.. (4.31 at the Combine back in 2017).
But he's only broken 700 yards once in his career.
Seems like a great deal of money for waiting for someone to have their breakout year.
But then, look at what Gabe Davis got.
Samuel career targets: 485
Samuel career catches: 317
Career catch % : 65.4
Gabe targets: 299
Gabe catches: 163
Career % : 54.5
Diggs career catch % for reference: 68.8
Take this for what it’s worth
Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills
Quote:
Originally Posted by
cookie G
Samuel can definitely fly.. (4.31 at the Combine back in 2017).
But he's only broken 700 yards once in his career.
Seems like a great deal of money for waiting for someone to have their breakout year.
But then, look at what Gabe Davis got.
They may be looking at potential with his speed in our offense with Josh throwing to him considering he had nothing but bums, backups and has beens as his QBs during his entire tenure in the league to date.
We still definitely need to draft a guy 1-2 but this guy could be a great fit.
Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills
Quote:
Originally Posted by
THE END OF ALL DAYS
3 years
30 M
15M Guaranteed
Replacement for Diggs not Davis me thinks.
Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills
Quote:
Originally Posted by
acehole
Replacement for Diggs not Davis me thinks.
The ceiling must be high with the QB talent this kid was playing with.
Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Forward_Lateral
Samuel career targets: 485
Samuel career catches: 317
Career catch % : 65.4
Gabe targets: 299
Gabe catches: 163
Career % : 54.5
Diggs career catch % for reference: 68.8
Take this for what it’s worth
Great summary.
There's this too...
Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills
Curtis Samuel averaged 9.08 mph within the first second of his routes in 2023 (i.e., his "burst"), 3rd-quickest in the NFL (min. 300 routes).
Bills wide receivers averaged a 7.95 mph burst last season, 29th in the NFL (Gabe Davis: 8.25 mph; Stefon Diggs: 7.73 mph).
Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills
This could be Diggs replacement. NOW DRAFT THE NEXT MEGATRON
Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills
Go look at Beasleys career before Buffalo.
Pretty similar to Samuel, if not less impressive
Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills
This upgrades our WR options, but he’s not really a Gabe replacement. Is mostly a slot receiver and backfield weapon. To me WR is still very much a dire need for Round 1 or 2.
But if you add a top rookie option for Gabe’s role, the WR room suddenly looks pretty jacked compared to last couple years
Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills
I’m surprised at the player and the money.
He’s definitely not a Diggs replacement. He’s 7 seasons in and is pretty well established as a slot guy who averages 10.5 ypc. He has not been able to use that 4.31 to take the top off with regularity.
He’s descent in the slot, but he’s not taking either of the X spots.
Meanwhile, Shakir took 69% of his snaps in the slot last year and I had assumed he won himself that job going into this year. I’m not sure why they made this signing to be honest as it had potential to stunt Shakir’s growth.
It definitely shouldn’t deter them from drafting an X reciever very early in the draft. Diggs clock is ticking and they need a guy who can be a WR1 in short order
Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills
This only makes sense if they're going to try and use him outside. We have Shakir and Kincaid. Seems redundant.
Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills
What does this mean for Shakir?
Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills
One less WR to draft means one more pick available for a trade up.
Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills
Agree that an outside WR is still a 1st or 2nd round draft priority.
Also agree he’s a slot guy and I like Shakir
But he’s a good player and injuries happen in the NFL.
We’re building what Hank Stram used to call “deep depth” at WR.
The money part does not bother me. The cap can always be maneuvered
Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Oaf
What does this mean for Shakir?
I can only see 2 things that make sense:
1. they think Shakir can play outside
2. They paid a fair amount of money for a 4th WR.
If they believe Samuel can play outside as WR2 or plan to demote Shakir back to the bench, this is gonna be a long year.
Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Canadian'eh!
I can only see 2 things that make sense:
1. they think Shakir can play outside
2. They paid a fair amount of money for a 4th WR.
If they believe Samuel can play outside as WR2 or plan to demote Shakir back to the bench, this is gonna be a long year.
They could be scheming up some four wide sets.
That could create some gnarly mismatches.