Re: Odell Bekham - Amazing
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Originally Posted by
Mahdi
I'm happy we have Sammy but this kid is ridiculous.
Reminds me of a young, bigger Steve Smith.
Everyone must watch the catch he just made on SNF.
So if given the option now, you wouldn't trade Sammy for Beckum and a mid-round 1st and 4th next season?
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Like Smith...does he constantly push off and get away with it? :scooter:
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It was a crazy catch but I'd love to know how much glue or whatever they use was on those gloves.
Re: Odell Bekham - Amazing
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Originally Posted by
imbondz
It was a crazy catch but I'd love to know how much glue or whatever they use was on those gloves.
Those gloves are great. You've used 'em, haven't you? They're far better than that stick-um ever was. Wet leather is great for grip.
Re: Odell Bekham - Amazing
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Originally Posted by
Fletch
So if given the option now, you wouldn't trade Sammy for Beckum and a mid-round 1st and 4th next season?
Difficult question at this point. Bekham is clearly a star but I still feel Sammy is the better all around WR.
Nor thing that needs to happen is that Marrone needs to make sure Sammy is targeted 15 times per game without exception.
Re: Odell Bekham - Amazing
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Originally Posted by
Mahdi
Difficult question at this point. Bekham is clearly a star but I still feel Sammy is the better all around WR.
Nor thing that needs to happen is that Marrone needs to make sure Sammy is targeted 15 times per game without exception.
I'm thinking that if there truly was a special WR in this past draft, Beckum is the one. He missed 4 games and is presently the Giants' leading receiver and may very well outperform all the other rookies on 4 fewer games.
Re: Odell Bekham - Amazing
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Originally Posted by
Fletch
I'm thinking that if there truly was a special WR in this past draft, Beckum is the one. He missed 4 games and is presently the Giants' leading receiver and may very well outperform all the other rookies on 4 fewer games.
Could be. I think when evaluators watch the two in college there is unanimous agreement that Watkins is the sure star. Bekham was probably seen as clearly talented but not a sure star.
Of course that doesn't always mean it's reality once they get to the NFL.
Still I think we got the better overall player for now.
Re: Odell Bekham - Amazing
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Originally Posted by
Fletch
So if given the option now, you wouldn't trade Sammy for Beckum and a mid-round 1st and 4th next season?
I don't know how anyone wouldn't rather have that. I'd even go a step further and say that I wish we kept Stevie.
Right now we have Sammy Watkins, where we could have Beckham, Stevie, and our 1st round pick next year. This team is killing me.
Re: Odell Bekham - Amazing
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Originally Posted by
Fletch
I'm thinking that if there truly was a special WR in this past draft, Beckum is the one. He missed 4 games and is presently the Giants' leading receiver and may very well outperform all the other rookies on 4 fewer games.
Who else does Eli have to pass to though? When Cruz and Jennings went down with injury Eli had to look elsewhere. That's why studying just stats as stats isn't fair. Watkins has performed well as a number 1.
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Originally Posted by
The Jokeman
Who else does Eli have to pass to though? When Cruz and Jennings went down with injury Eli had to look elsewhere. That's why studying just stats as stats isn't fair. Watkins has performed well as a number 1.
Who else does Orton have to throw to? Nothing better than Eli has.
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Originally Posted by
Fletch
Who else does Orton have to throw to? Nothing better than Eli has.
Robert Woods is a serviceable player and we have RBs that we can dump passes to. Eli doesn't have that.
Re: Odell Bekham - Amazing
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Originally Posted by
Mahdi
Could be. I think when evaluators watch the two in college there is unanimous agreement that Watkins is the sure star. Bekham was probably seen as clearly talented but not a sure star.
Of course that doesn't always mean it's reality once they get to the NFL.
Still I think we got the better overall player for now.
That's clearly a very subjective statement though, you agree with that, right?
As to unanimous agreement, there's unanimous agreement every year regarding a bunch of draft picks, but reality never matches all of those unanimous, or even vast majority, agreements. That's what separates the better teams from teams like us, we seem to go chasing what others say instead of having people in place that can come to their own conclusions that may not agree with unanimity or majority.
Re: Odell Bekham - Amazing
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Originally Posted by
Joe Fo Sho
I don't know how anyone wouldn't rather have that. I'd even go a step further and say that I wish we kept Stevie.
Right now we have Sammy Watkins, where we could have Beckham, Stevie, and our 1st round pick next year. This team is killing me.
Ya but Watkins to me looks like Dez Bryant. Just because Bekham is looking good it doesn't mean he's better.
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Originally Posted by
Mahdi
Ya but Watkins to me looks like Dez Bryant. Just because Bekham is looking good it doesn't mean he's better.
We'll see, but Watkins has been the least consistent of the top WRs coming out.
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Wow. Talk about beating a dead horse.
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kscdogbillsfan1221
Wow. Talk about beating a dead horse.
Fletch will be beating this dead horse 5 years from now
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I don't that that any of the teams drafting wrs high anticipated this flurry of flags. If it continues, I wouldn't draft one early, next time around.
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Novacane
Fletch will be beating this dead horse 5 years from now
Kinda like I've been beating it on Spiller for five years I guess. At least I've been fully vindicated on him as I will be on Watkins too. They've been saying the same exact things about Spiller during that time and praticularly after he was drafted. Unfortunately it's taken many almost that full five years to come the conclusion that Spiller really isn't very special after all.
It was actually a pretty decent conversation until now.
Do you have a comment on the topic, or is it simply your goal to attack the poster and not the post?
Honestly, I think if you step outside of Buffalo very few people are going to agree that the best WR in this past draft was Watkins, I don't even think he'd make the top-2 at this point, maybe not even the top-3.
Sit tight, you'll be hearing exactly that soon and the only people suggesting otherwise will be Bills fans.
Did you read what I said above? Beckum has essentially matched what Watkins has done in 3 fewer games. His QB has played almost identically to how Orton has played. In the meantime, no one seems to want to discuss why Hogan's average numbers are only marginally less than Watkins with the same QB.
Many Bills fans are overrating Watkins it would seem.
Re: Odell Bekham - Amazing
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Originally Posted by
Mahdi
Difficult question at this point. Bekham is clearly a star but I still feel Sammy is the better all around WR.
Nor thing that needs to happen is that Marrone needs to make sure Sammy is targeted 15 times per game without exception.
HELLO!!!!!!
Is he TWICE as good as Beckham? HELL NO.
The Giants selected Beckham at #13 of the first round last year. Did they use next year's first and fourth too?
Anyone who thinks we didn't overpay for Sammy is blind.