Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
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Originally Posted by
Fletch
Easy Jackson!
:peace:
I never call anyone a troll seriously, it's always jokingly or facetiously. The term gets thrown around here regularly and has lost any and all meaning. It's usually used by posters that do post regularly and don't like the content of another's posts. I know you're not a troll, hardly anyone here is, yet if you believed the labels and cheap name calling, as you say, grade-schoolish behavior, there are many.
Having said that, great post, and more astute than most here. Agree that Kyle was a pro-bowler before Mario got here, therefore my attack on the statement that Marios presence' made him better.
I agree with some of your points but not with others. To address the latter ones:
Actually we don't know yet, let's wait to see how the season plays out. Last season was a pass-rush happy defense, yet we allowed 3 more passing TDs than we had the season prior despite setting a franchise record for sacks and what, 3rd ever best in INTs? We ranked 20th in scoring. How do we reconcile those things other than to state that the sacks were overblown. As I've pointed out to many posters, we had 10 combined sacks against Atlanta and NO and yet still allowed 30 some points and great passing days against both teams. Again, we have to reconcile that before declaring Pettine's defense as being good.
The reasons you gave are really not reasons. Anytime you drop $100M on a player it prevents you from spending that money elsewhere.
This issue is more than simply an exercise in whether or not Mario was worth that much, he wasn't, but it's more an exercise in how does one build a winning football team. For an answer to that, from a contract perspective, look at the Pats or Seahawks more specifically, and how much their players get paid.
Mario was signed here to put fannies in the seats coming off another miserable 6-10 campaign. Everyone in the organization foolishly thought, for some unbeknownst reason, that sacks translated to wins despite the glaring lack of evidence of that elsewhere in the league. So they went out and broke the bank on Mario.
But saying that dropping $100M on Mario did not hinder us from signing any other players is the same as saying that dropping $66M on Fitzpatrick didn't prevent us from signing any other players, which is ridiculous.
I look forward to interacting with you in the future.
I look forward to interacting with you as well. This looks to be the most talented Bills team in a long time at the skill positions....it all comes down to QB.
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Look at MEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
Look at MEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
Ok... we are. This is what I see...
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Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
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jlgarsh
I look forward to interacting with you as well. This looks to be the most talented Bills team in a long time at the skill positions....it all comes down to QB.
The potential is there for the WRs but they still have much to prove.
I can't disagree more, again, on the DBs though. I don't think they're very talented. McKelvin sucks as a CB and always has, last season he was more a beneficiary of the system than anything else. Gilmore hasn't stepped up to become the CB we thought we were getting with the 10th overall pick in 2012. The rest of the DBs range from average to less.
The LBs are going to be weak, very weak, against the pass this season.
As to the RBs, Brown and Dixon haven't proven a thing yet in the NFL and neither has had any success on 3rd downs. Spiller too has had no success on 3rd downs, all three are role-players of varying sorts, not one is a 3-down RB. Which leaves us with only Jackson as a true 3-down RB, and he's the oldest RB in the league. This is season where age starts to become a big factor for him. He's my favorite Bills RB, right up there with Thurman, but he's finished.
TE is weak for us.
I just graded the units in another thread, here are those grades:
DL - A-
OL - B
RBs - B- (Only because Jackson's 33 and the oldest RB in the league, C- w/o Jackson)
WRs - C+ (Until Watkins, Woods, and Williams step up quite a bit)
LBs - C-
DBs - C-
TEs - C-
QB - D
Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
Is Williams even playing today cause he's invisible
Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
DJ Fluker is handling him.
Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
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coastal
DJ Fluker is handling him.
Who?
Mario made his 1 play for the game when he slammed the Chargers RB to the ground.
Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
Haha, the thread that just won't die.
Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
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coastal
DJ Fluker is handling him.
You're getting handled by Blondie
Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
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HurkeyNuts
You're getting handled by Blondie
I am not allowed to talk right now ... even my words are button pushers.
I always imagine you to be just like coastal .. this tough guy exterior but a big soft bear on the inside :D
Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
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gr8slayer
Haha, the thread that just won't die.
It's because you have morons that want to polish their knobs when a player doesn't have a good game.
BTW, Mario was getting held quite often.
Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
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pmoon6
BTW, Mario was getting held quite often.
so punch someone in the mouth and make something happen.
Or is being a tough guy only something you do on the internet?
Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
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coastal
so punch someone in the mouth and make something happen.
Or is being a tough guy only something you do on the internet?
Personally, given the NFL rules, written and unwritten, and I was a DC or a player, I would target the QB's knees AND punch someone in the mouth.
Oh and no need to make this personal. But if you insist, we can have a nice smackfest or you can visit me in the mountains if you like.
I doubt it because you wittle toesies would get too cooood.
Thats the trouble with Florida. It even turns guys that are 57% male into total women.
Now, make me a sandwich, *****.
Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
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pmoon6
Personally, given the NFL rules, written and unwritten, and I was a DC or a player, I would target the QB's knees AND punch someone in the mouth.
Something Mario didn't do.
the rest is just you trying to impress your new BFF wagonboy.
Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
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coastal
Something Mario didn't do.
the rest is just you trying to impress your new BFF wagonboy.
Yeah, whine about thanks on other people's posts.
That's not low rent or anything.
What a f u cking whiney little *****.
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WagonCircler
Yeah, whine about thanks on other people's posts.
That's not low rent or anything.
What a f u cking whiney little *****.
Putting spaces in between your letters so you can swear without being censored... u hardcore.
lolz.
Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
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coastal
Something Mario didn't do.
the rest is just you trying to impress your new BFF wagonboy.
Really?????
Is this high school **** or something?
"Well, if you are friends with HIM, then I don't like you anymore".
BTW, I have always enjoyed reading Wagon's posts as I have yours. I may not agree and I may give you ****, but I like them none the less.
I know, ya'll can recreate the Battle Of The Buffalo Range. You and Wagon can go back and forth and then Limp Dicked Lemonade can be your helper. I'll stay neutral and just be entertained.
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Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
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Novacane
Did Mario play today?
Did anyone in the secondary?