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Originally Posted by YardRat
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LardFat.Quote:
Originally Posted by YardRat
How talented are they if we keep on failing ?? It's nice to see some results but let's be honest, paying a player without any recourse on the contract was insanity. The player had synthetic weed issues with reckless driving charges pending, so maybe the red flags needed to be on fire instead of just waving I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by YardRat
We need a little luck with Taylor for him to stay healthy, it will cover up some of the issues but not all of them. Not every winning team is perfect but doing some logical things to protect ourselves would be a great start.
but pretending that our stars are the issue and not the supporting cast around them is the same mistake they've made for the 16 years of futility. at somepoint they have to assess their top talent well and get viable backups that fit their scheme. this russ Brandon, sign the big name approach has not worked. but as long has he pulls all the strings and everyone but him gets fired, we'll have the same issues as always.
Like Pegula said, it's 1 year of missing the playoffs now not 16 years to him. How's that strike you ? Business as usual, prepare for something good and watch the wheels fall off. This year is looking bleak already and between Dareus / injuries, the hits just keep coming. Wait until you see the injury list from today's practice, it's nauseating.Quote:
Originally Posted by trapezeus
That strikes me as a guy who won't bear the blame for what he's not responsible for.Quote:
Originally Posted by MitchMurrayDowntown
How does that strike you?
Strikes me as a guy that's willing to watch the team flop around a while longer, which obviously raises the odds we miss the playoffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by feldspar
Even though he's spent about the most money he's allowed too?Quote:
Originally Posted by MitchMurrayDowntown
Or do you feel like he should hold himself responsible for, say, the year 2004?
Use some common sense. Put things in context. He bought a business. You understand that, right.
Or AJ Green or JJ Watt or Julio Jones or Andy Dalton or Tyron Smith.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Pink
There's probably something to be said for him taking the franchise history on his shoulders though as well. He doesn't need to gnash his teeth and weep, but it would really kind of comforting to know he feels the cumulative pain of his fan base.Quote:
Originally Posted by feldspar
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Originally Posted by MitchMurrayDowntown
Could we just nuke the whole state of Alabama?
Brutal.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpikedLemonade
What makes you think that he doesn't feel the cumulative pain of the fan base? After all, he's a Bills fan too...that's not a recent development.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mace
Think about it from the reverse angle. What if the Bills had been vastly successful over the past 16 years, winning say 5 Super Bowls and consistently making the playoffs? Then enter the new guy, who immediate takes credit for that in any way. I bet the general reaction from fans would be "who the hell does this guy think he is?" He would have had nothing to do with that winning stretch either, and he would have to prove his worth in the exact same way as he does in the real situation he's in, wouldn't he? The answer is yes. There would be no real difference.
He's the new guy, pure and simple. Whether the Bills won or lost before his arrival is not something he had any control over...not any more than you or me. That's just common sense, which sometimes is not all that common...
Pegula bought a NFL lemon and needs to make lemonade for every fan, trying to slice it any other way is silly talk.
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Originally Posted by MitchMurrayDowntown
Pegula needs to do what any other owner needs to do.
This ain't rocket science, pal.
The guy has way more money than he could realistically even spend. He didn't buy this team for ****s and giggles. You can't convince me that he's not trying to win...that's all that matters.
What do do your half-assed sources say about it?
I never implied he isn't trying to win but spinning 16 years of team futility in even making the playoffs as not his problem is complete BS. You buy a broken bike and say it's not my fault it doesn't ride doesn't work, fix the spokes and the wheels might turn.Quote:
Originally Posted by feldspar
Ok, so he bought broken bike, let's say. Did he break the bike? No, he just now owns the broken bike.Quote:
Originally Posted by MitchMurrayDowntown
Of ****ing course he's bought the broken bike with the idea of fixing it.
His problem is making the bike work. Whatever ******* broke the bike in the first place is an entirely different story altogether.
Sometimes I think you are mentally deficient there, Scoobs.
The Bills not making the playoffs for 16 years is more pressure to fix the bike right quick. That's a problem he has, but the problem is not his fault. Common sense, pilgrim.
The best part of all of this? The people who piss and moan that Rex doesn't have control of the players, it's all his fault for how they act off the field, etc. But, when someone suggests that they actually do something about it, or they actually do do something (See Karlos), they piss and moan that they are getting rid of all the talent.
You can't have it both ways. If you want to win at all costs, and don't care if the Bills are a bunch of brainless thugs, that's fine. Buyer beware. Don't effing complain when they get 10090 penalties a game, and you see them in the media doing stupid things like stunt racing, getting into bar fights with off duty police, and failing to show up for multiple drug tests.
feldspar, I get your point and it is accurate. pegula shouldn't be blamed what proceeded him. but he has kept russ Brandon heavily involved in operations. and this title shift to the sabres is somewhat meaningless since Brandon was at the signing of rex who at this point looks like a coach who doesn't understand anything about what made him fail in NY.
The flip point which also exists is that pegula bought a team that has failed for 16 years. and his phrasing that it's one year of failure presents such poor optics to the fans. the pegulas need to manage the fans a little better than that. and I agree it will be thankless as the team flounders. and they are getting some backlash because they are seemingly making the same mistake they made with the sabres.
they let the same fools who failed before his tenure, spend some money and see if they could make it better. but the fans didn't want that. they saw darcy as incapable and we had to waste a few years on that experiment. now we are wasting a few years saying that we have a new regime with rex, when its really the same old show it ever was with russ being his right hand man.
So I agree with your point and I think the pegulas are allowed to view it as 1 year since that's all they've had to deal with. but they have to know they have an incredibly frustrated fanbase and they have to manage their long term vision with the short term realities of having a team that still failing.
I'm looking at it from the millions of fans not a Billionaire making excuses, welcome to democracy.Quote:
Originally Posted by trapezeus
You're acting like a petulant little kid. No one owes you anythingQuote:
Originally Posted by MitchMurrayDowntown