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I can't believe some of these people who signed up. How the hell can someone lurk for 2 years and only post a few times? They prolly spend all of their time in the main forum reading Bills stuff, then they start reading stuff in the election forum, then just choose somebody. Do they know that we all bust balls outside of the main forum?
I think I'll start another poll for these lurkers. :;
I lurked a long time before actively participating... At first this community seems like there's so many people with ideas that anything I could think of would have already been discussed... Came to realize later that it was the opposite, that while there were lots of topics, there is always room for new points of view and opinions.
Just because someone doesn't post much - doesn't mean that they don't have a feel for the site.
Their votes are welcome and no attempts to diminish whatever opinions they have should ever come into play.
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Originally Posted by mybills
1) Next years vote? Playa is not President for 4 years?
2) Not many lurkers voted. Most of the people who did vote post often.
Sounds more like someone upset their candidate lost...
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There should be an electoral college system. Maybe by rep points or something. While I congratulate playa, just look at all the heavy hitters who voted for MBB and the nobodies who voted for playa.
The election should've really been declared over and decided when the heaviest hitter voted as highlighted in bold here:
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The nobodies want a leader, the heavy hitters are just followers.Quote:
Originally Posted by billsfanone
I notice there are alot of people who like to insult other posters on the heavy hitters list. That's not my following.
...aaaand fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by billsfanone
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Excellent post, Darth! Don't forget that you almost left the Zone too, until we convinced you to come to the home opener party and once you met us all, you got hooked for life! :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Takeo
I think it should be a requirement of all the candidates next year that they at least post in the main forum on a regular basis.
I also think that any running mates, staff members, etc should not be actual members of the site's staff.
I've met you, Mike. I am hardly hooked for life.
Sour grapes?
I get what you are saying I dont agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by YardRat
Firstly regular basis is probably open to interpretation, secondly I know a handful of zoners who read that forum everyday but hardly ever post. And they are active members at other areas of the site.
I dont know that having a staff member on your team makes much difference as every team had one. Maybe not presidents/vp's, but certainly zone staffers should be allowed to participate as team staffers.
Actually, I was thinking the opposite. I think Playa would've had even more votes if those people knew the ball buster side of him. His campaign was very serious, and that's not him outside of the main forum. He's one of the biggest ball busters in the tz. :idunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Takeo
What constitutes a "heavy hitter" and a "nobody"?Quote:
Originally Posted by billsfanone
I was going to say the same thing. No BillsZone staff working on any campaign.Quote:
Originally Posted by YardRat
A nobody would be someone who never posts anymore and a heavy hitter would be one of the admins that helped created this site.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamze132
I agree. I like the way you think. If I had a running mate like you, instead of the ballast I had, we would have won.Quote:
Originally Posted by YardRat
:rofl: Poor Thurm!
Well I came a year late but I do post pretty much every day a couple times...:dance:Quote:
Originally Posted by RockStar36
I'm kinda on the fence about that. I'm not sure it matters as much as the stipulations about voting. For example, it could help promote donations if only donors can vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by RockStar36
If you're a donor, you really care about the site, and want to help it succeed. I'm sure there's those who care but can't afford it, but it could help promote donations. I'm sure there are those who have donated in the past that post regularly, but can't afford to, that some of us could help out, too.
Just some ideas. :idunno:
EE, maybe if you hadn't pulled a Phil, you would have won this election.
i will say this, you had some great ideas.
It wasn't a knock on you. It was more towards the people that voted for both people that never post at all. Those people really shouldn't get a say in the situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamze132
I like mybills idea. Donors only.
I agree with this 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by YardRat
Me too.
Especially not an administrator. Too close to the controls, IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Devin
I disagree about "donor" only voters allowed.
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Originally Posted by shelby
I needed a break. You should be familiar with that concept.
Why? What's your reason(s) not to...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cntrygal
is it wrong to raise money for the site?
Well, it is exclusionary and that is what we want to avoid. I think the registration process was a good idea. Maybe next year we could actually have two major parties and have primaries for each.Quote:
Originally Posted by mybills
I also think not having admins and mods running the campaign is a good idea as well.
If the voters donate, they're not excluded.
And if "exclusion" is what we're trying to avoid, why do people want to exclude admins and mods?
Excluding them doesn't help the site, but donations do. :idunno:
People aren't going to donate just so they can vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by mybills
Staff are here for the support of the membership, not their own personal gain. Comes with the territory. The greater number of awards, prizes, accolades you bestow upon the regular members, the more likely they are to stick around, and maybe even donate. The greater number that go to the staff, the more likely a regular member is going to go elsewhere for their entertainment.
It's pretty common, almost universal actually, in the real world that any organization or business that sponsors a contest excludes their employees and their family members from winning and/or participating. Why do you think that is?
That is a very good point.
Ever heard of a poll tax, mybills?
So are ya'll saying Playa only won cuz he had mods & admins on his team?
If the zone took Visa / MC, I'd suspect more people would be apt to donate. I knew about Paypal and the bank draining potential and it's not appealing to me.
So, if your going to deny people that haven't paid you should equally expand the ability to pay easier. You can use Visa / MC at MCdonald's for gods sake, why not here?
Skoobs, you can donate using a credit card.
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Originally Posted by shelby
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Originally Posted by Skooby
Skooby, if you want to pay the processing fees for us (permanently), we'll take your credit card donation.
Otherwise you can use the PayPal option.
Thanks for your support.
Then you could have parties buy a months donor status for people if they vote for them:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by YardRat
You can tell you're employed by the government.Quote:
Originally Posted by LtFinFan66
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