Bosa /Chargers aren't coming together, their best offer is being pulled of the table

This is getting real ugly between the Chargers and Bosa, I'd take him over the up to 360 tests Dareus (odds on him passing / making all of them is like .01%). We have to eliminate the off-set language & fall into the guidelines & have a rookie contract / guy that should be able to play at a good level. Even if he's not ready to start the first month full-time, neither will Dareus. A change of venue makes sense for both teams.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ey-bosa-offer/

What do you guys think ????

yahoo article says the time for a trade has come and gone based on the CBA terms. either they come to terms, or bosa re-enters the draft. but he loses more money if he isn't selected 3rd or better. they have to realize that this is the ebst offer and it's going to get tougher. and the chargers have to realize, there is no compensation if they lose him, so they can't crush the contract to a ridiculously low level. I'm guessing this is solved by Saturday at latest.

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Originally Posted by trapezeus

yahoo article says the time for a trade has come and gone based on the CBA terms. either they come to terms, or bosa re-enters the draft. but he loses more money if he isn't selected 3rd or better. they have to realize that this is the ebst offer and it's going to get tougher. and the chargers have to realize, there is no compensation if they lose him, so they can't crush the contract to a ridiculously low level. I'm guessing this is solved by Saturday at latest.

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OK cool, I haven't vetted the idea. Thanks.

I like what the Chargers did. There is no reason for the nonsense from Bosa's agent and they are absolutely right that he's not as valuable by holding out as long as he has so it makes perfect sense for them to reduce the offer.

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Originally Posted by Bill Cody

I like what the Chargers did. There is no reason for the nonsense from Bosa's agent and they are absolutely right that he's not as valuable by holding out as long as he has so it makes perfect sense for them to reduce the offer.

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What a way to start a relationship, first real holdout problem since the inception of the rookie wage scale.

This is a recurring problem with the Chargers. They must be a nightmare to deal with.

I read awhile ago the main issue was offset language. Bosa's camp wanted entire guaranteed money; however, chargers wanted offsets added. Basically if the chargers cut him before his contract is fulfilled (4 years) if another team signs him then the dollar amount of that contract is removed from what the chargers owe him.

In essence if he signs a 4 year 20 million dollar deal but only plays 3 years and then chargers cut him, but he is picked up by browns for 2 million then chargers only owe him 18 million total. He wanted that removed so he got full amount regardless. Which I think is fair if you are the number 3 pick.

I honestly do not understand the issues or how what he is asking compares to others around him.

Eli was smarter than most, he avoided them right out of the box (Archie is the man).

the chargers aren't the only team that uses offsets in their rookie contract language (most teams do, it's something that was allowed with the rookie pay cap); they are one of a handful of teams that do it with their "other" contracts though. everyone knows they do. it's just what you have to live with when you deal with the chargers.

it's not just the chargers, nearly every single rookie who signed this year has offset language in their deal.

It's obviously collusion the way nfl clubs are using it. but while I would be all over the team if it was anyone else for collusion, the chargers have been using offset language or a form of it in every single contract signed since the last labor deal. Its their way of doing business.

Jordan Gay for Bosa.

Get it done, Whaley!

Courtesy of a Chargers fan at SB Nation (arandom) :

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You’re right, it’s stupid.
Offset language doesn’t work the way you think it does though. His money is 100% guaranteed, so if they cut him, they still have to pay him.
BUT, with offset language, if they cut him and he signs with another team for $X, then the Chargers have to pay him $X less. He will still definitely get paid the amount of his contract. But if there were no offsets, then Bosa could actually get more money by playing bad and being cut (he’d get paid by the Chargers, and then also by the new team). Offset language makes it so he gets paid the same as if he weren’t cut.
It’s all guaranteed.
Bosa wants either
1) To be able to "double dip" if he gets cut, getting paid twice, or
2) All his money now so that he could in theory invest it a few months earlier and get extra interest on it
That’s literally all he’s holding out for, and yes, it’s incredibly stupid, and it’s why this is the longest rookie holdout ever under the new CBA, because no one else would think that those things are worth starting so much BS over.

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Bosa's going to be sorry, Chargers aren't doing anything weird.

2017 first for Bosa

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Originally Posted by k-oneputt

2017 first for Bosa

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No way. Still a chance all the QB's go down the drain and that could be Chad Kelly.

He's versatile enough to play Shag's position.
I would do that in a second, problem is San Diego would not.
Whaley should at least make the call.

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Originally Posted by k-oneputt

He's versatile enough to play Shag's position.
I would do that in a second, problem is San Diego would not.
Whaley should at least make the call.

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Shaq is versatile enough to play Shaq's position also, and we already have him.

Furthermore, Bosa can't be traded. He'd have had to have been signed by August 8th to be eligible for trading this year.

Shaq's hurt.
I haven't heard about this 8/8 deadline, please continue

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Originally Posted by k-oneputt

Shaq's hurt.
I haven't heard about this 8/8 deadline, please continue

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Even if the Chargers wanted to trade Bosa, they can't. The Aug. 9 deadline to trade a drafted, unsigned rookie passed already.

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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ch...-latest-offer/

Down at the bottom (5. So what's next ?)

Also : http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-bosa-in-2016/

Thank-you. That ends that scenario.

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Originally Posted by MitchMurrayDowntown

OK cool, I haven't vetted the idea. Thanks.

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You can say that about 95% of the threads you start.

Here's Joey insuring he'd be tossed out of the Fiesta Bowl with this low-speed helmet spear after ND's Jaylon Smith got injured:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgFX_uZI20s