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Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
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Originally Posted by
Michael82
Not all day long, but a majority of the time. I, along with the guy next to me were watching him many different times and noticed he was 1-on-1. Occasionally the guard would chip in, but Mario was getting blocked and manhandled 1-on-1 quite a bit. It was very troubling. I really wonder if he has some kind of injury and they arent telling anyone.
He is wearing a cast on his wrist which would indicate it is broken.
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Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
It's about ****ing time...
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Originally Posted by
coastal
It's about ****ing time...
Suck a fart guy.
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Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
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Originally Posted by
SquishDaFish
STFU Coastal
What?
1 sack every 2.5 games is worth an unquestioned $100 million?
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Yea I rather the Bills not sign anyone you fn loser. Get a LIFE
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I agre with coastal. Mario is not even close to worth it!
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I dunno man, Mario earned his paycheck today.
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Originally Posted by
coastal
What?
1 sack every 2.5 games is worth an unquestioned $100 million?
You have my vote as the most worthless person on the internet, my friend. Quite the feet.
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Originally Posted by
coastal
What?
1 sack every 2.5 games is worth an unquestioned $100 million?
His penetration led to Kyle's sack as well.
Listen, I'm not the biggest fan, he's up and down, but he had a good game today. Played pretty well last week as well.
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Anderson's sack and Kyle's sack... Mario had NOTHING to do with right?
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Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
From what I see... and remember I am just a girl..
I see a guy who is out there playing it safe.
He has a paycheck to protect.
He had a good game today but we will really see his worth against the 49ers and the Pats.
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Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
mario had a good game. 1.5 sacks and helped lead to other sacks. he was being held a lot as well.
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Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
He is not going to get a Sack Every play like many want him to. Sometimes he may not even have good games what matters is what he does over the whole season. Just because you pay a guy 100 million does not mean he is going to get 25 Sacks a season and smash the sack record.
One thing I think everyone is overlooking is how well our D has looked against the run. It is like watching a completely different team and Mario is a big reason why.
Would you rather have paid Brees like the Saints did only to go 0-3 to start the season? What would you be saying if you were a fan of that team? Or how about Manning and throwing 3 ints last week. ALL great players have times where they struggle it is part of the game.
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IMO... and I may be wrong .. but with him playing it safe the way he has... he got paid a ton more and produce less than expected.
Do I wanna see me make a sack every play? No.
I do however want to see him in every play going after that qb and making that qb look out the corner of his eye every play not knowing whether Mario is going to get free and get his Ass. I do want to see sacks and tackles ... I want to see the offensive fear him.
For a hundred million.. I want to see more.
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But they do fear him. Go back and watch he is double or tripled just about EVERY play. Last year it was Dareus that got that and now Dareus and Kyle are singled in the middle. He frees up everyone else and still makes plays. When the rest of the DL starts dominating he will get freed up and make his sacks. The man who deserves some of your hash comments is the sack machine Anderson.
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How about this..
I want to hear the announcer of the game say his name so many times that everyone knows he is the man of that defense.
I want him to be the leader.
I don't want others paving the way for him.
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I dont see any problems with the defensive line To be honest. Very happy with their play. Now the Secondary is a whole nother story.
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i think we also need to remember that mario missed almost all of last year. it takes time to get back into it. i think he will get stronger as the season goes on. he has gotten stronger each game so far.
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No one who likes Mario will admit he sucks.
No one who hates Mario will admit he's good.
This whole argument is pointless.
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Originally Posted by
JoeMama
No one who likes Mario will admit he sucks.
No one who hates Mario will admit he's good.
This whole argument is pointless.
Mario Williams is copper.
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Originally Posted by
jimmifli
Mario Williams is copper.
Then unless you're Chilean, you won't ever like Mario.
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Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
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Originally Posted by
JoeMama
No one who likes Mario will admit he sucks.
No one who hates Mario will admit he's good.
This whole argument is pointless.
I don't know anything about the guy.
I don't really follow stats the way you guys do.
I just call it as I see it.
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Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
I'm glad he's our fool's gold.
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Originally Posted by
JoeMama
No one who likes Mario will admit he sucks.
No one who hates Mario will admit he's good.
This whole argument is pointless.
so because there's entrenched sides of an argument, having the argumentis somehow pointless?
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The D line is a good unit...thats all I care about
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Originally Posted by
Historian
The D line is a good unit...thats all I care about
Agreed. 9 sacks the last two games I think. Plus, the run defense has been fantastic through three weeks,
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Originally Posted by
Slim
Agreed. 9 sacks the last two games I think. Plus, the run defense has been fantastic through three weeks,
Thats what Im talking about. The Tards who are finding stuff to complain about with the units that are playing well are DUMB
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Originally Posted by
coastal
so because there's entrenched sides of an argument, having the argumentis somehow pointless?
No, it is a good argument.
Just not on this website.
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Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
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Originally Posted by
Blondie
IMO... and I may be wrong .. but with him playing it safe the way he has... he got paid a ton more and produce less than expected.
Do I wanna see me make a sack every play? No.
I do however want to see him in every play going after that qb and making that qb look out the corner of his eye every play not knowing whether Mario is going to get free and get his Ass. I do want to see sacks and tackles ... I want to see the offensive fear him.
For a hundred million.. I want to see more.
You don't know what the hell you're talking about, and it has nothing to do with you being a girl.
The defense is leaps and bounds better this year, and Mario is one of the reasons why. Sacks will come.
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Originally Posted by
Blondie
From what I see... and remember I am just a girl.
Well, when it comes to football, I think girls are GREAT for leading cheers, keeping the snacks from running out & the drinks refreshed.
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Originally Posted by
chernobylwraiths
You don't know what the hell you're talking about, and it has nothing to do with you being a girl.
The defense is leaps and bounds better this year, and Mario is one of the reasons why. Sacks will come.
I hope you are right.. I hope sacks WILL come.
Considering y'all are 3 games in and he hasnt done anything major yet that just says a lot.
Players get paid big bucks because they make big plays. He hasn't made one.
But like you say the D is looking good and sacks WILL come.
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better days
Well, when it comes to football, I think girls are GREAT for leading cheers, keeping the snacks from running out & the drinks refreshed.
Good for you.
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Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
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Originally Posted by
Blondie
I hope you are right.. I hope sacks WILL come.
Players get paid big bucks because they make big plays. He hasn't made one.
1.5 sacks today. Pay attention.
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And compairing him to Bruce Smith is assinine. The only similarities between he and Bruce are that they both play defensive end (though opposite sides) and they both were the number one pick in the draft. Bruce is considered by many to be one of the greatest defensive ends of all time, so let's give that a rest.
He gets paid what he gets paid, using that as a scale to how good he should be is stupid.
He has looked better each week.
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I thought he had a very good game yesterday and showed lots of pressure that caused others to make plays last week. The only flat performance was the opener.
The line is getting better each week as a unit.
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Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
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Originally Posted by
Blondie
From what I see... and remember I am just a girl..
I see a guy who is out there playing it safe.
He has a paycheck to protect.
He had a good game today but we will really see his worth against the 49ers and the Pats.
Mario doesn't need to protect his contract. He's already stinking rich, and his current contract includes $50 million of guaranteed money...$50 million.
Anybody that has a problem with Mario being on this team is just being dumb. Who cares how much he makes? It's not your money, and it would likely have gone unspent had we not given it to him. The guy probably needs to shake some rust off after being out for almost a whole year, as well as adjusting to a new team...kinda like Peyton Manning.
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Originally Posted by
TrEd FTW
1.5 sacks today. Pay attention.
I do pay attention ..
He had 1.5 sacks in ONE game his other 2 games He had ZERO sacks.
ZERO .. let me repeat that ONE more time ZERO sacks.
And they were against the JETS, the CHIEFS and the BROWNS .. your 3 easiest games so far. I can ONLY imagine what he is gonna do against the PATS and the 49ers!
I hope for your sake the PATS suck it again next week!
Wouldn't want pretty boy Mario to actually have to get down and play hard and maybe get dirty! LOL ..
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Originally Posted by
feldspar
Mario doesn't need to protect his contract. He's already stinking rich, and his current contract includes $50 million of guaranteed money...$50 million.
Yeah because guys like him are always smart about their money. LOL ..
He has a paycheck to protect.. if he gets seriously injured and is out another year his career is over.
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Originally Posted by
Blondie
I do pay attention ..
He had 1.5 sacks in ONE game his other 2 games He had ZERO sacks.
ZERO .. let me repeat that ONE more time ZERO sacks.
And they were against the JETS, the CHIEFS and the BROWNS .. your 3 easiest games so far. I can ONLY imagine what he is gonna do against the PATS and the 49ers!
I hope for your sake the PATS suck it again next week!
Wouldn't want pretty boy Mario to actually have to get down and play hard and maybe get dirty! LOL ..
It's been 3 games...let me repeat that, 3 games. Calm down, Coastal.
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Originally Posted by
Joe Fo Sho
It's been 3 games...let me repeat that, 3 games. Calm down, Coastal.
Did you hear the interview last night with Joe Flacco?? Where he stated he was better than Tom Brady .. everyone laughed even Coastal did and thought that was pretty cocky of him.
I said GOOD for him to have that attitude! I bet he beats Brady tonight .. 3rd quarter rolls around and the PATS were up by I think 2 touch downs .. coastal turns off the game and says see ... GUESS what?? While I was on my way dropping the kids off at school he calls and says: " you were right I was wrong" .. I said about what?? He said the Ravens won and Flacco had a better game than Brady!
I knew the guy would do it .. you can see it in how they play and how they take charge and how they lead the team.
Mario ain't doing that. Sure it has ONLY been 3 games, but they were against 3 teams you all knew you would win. They were the "easy" games. If this is how he is playing against the "easy" teams how do you think he will play against the real teams..
Y'all should have beat the JETS.. **** Miami's rookie QB almost beat the JETS yesterday .. their damn kicker missed the field goal in OT!
If they hadn't paid him as much as they did .. this wouldn't even be a discussion.
You are suppose to get what ya pay for. they paid top dollar for the best and their best has 1.5 sacks .. :chuckle:
He is no different than Peyton Manning .. Broncos paid BIG bucks for him and look at him play .. PATHETIC... (which I am REALLY happy about!)
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Originally Posted by
Blondie
I do pay attention ..
He had 1.5 sacks in ONE game his other 2 games He had ZERO sacks.
ZERO .. let me repeat that ONE more time ZERO sacks.
And they were against the JETS, the CHIEFS and the BROWNS .. your 3 easiest games so far. I can ONLY imagine what he is gonna do against the PATS and the 49ers!
I hope for your sake the PATS suck it again next week!
Wouldn't want pretty boy Mario to actually have to get down and play hard and maybe get dirty! LOL ..
I think you & Coastal need to pay attention to the fact that sacks aren't everything. How he helps his teammates gets sacks is a big deal too. How he helps collapse the pocket...how he stops the run...how he hurries the QB into throwing before he wants to...those are all intangibles that don't show up on a stat sheet directly toward him. But they are showing up as a stat on the unit as a whole. And the unit, as a whole, is working, which is more important than individual stats!!!
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Ok.. I went and looked up his stats.. he is on his projected target. He is projected to have 37 tackles this year.. so that is 2.3 per game... and thats where he is at after game 3.
So as long as he continues then he is worth the money.
So I will go a little easier.. ok. :-)
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Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
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Originally Posted by
Blondie
Did you hear the interview last night with Joe Flacco?? Where he stated he was better than Tom Brady .. everyone laughed even Coastal did and thought that was pretty cocky of him.
I said GOOD for him to have that attitude! I bet he beats Brady tonight .. 3rd quarter rolls around and the PATS were up by I think 2 touch downs .. coastal turns off the game and says see ... GUESS what?? While I was on my way dropping the kids off at school he calls and says: " you were right I was wrong" .. I said about what?? He said the Ravens won and Flacco had a better game than Brady!
I knew the guy would do it .. you can see it in how they play and how they take charge and how they lead the team.
Mario ain't doing that. Sure it has ONLY been 3 games, but they were against 3 teams you all knew you would win. They were the "easy" games. If this is how he is playing against the "easy" teams how do you think he will play against the real teams..
Y'all should have beat the JETS.. **** Miami's rookie QB almost beat the JETS yesterday .. their damn kicker missed the field goal in OT!
If they hadn't paid him as much as they did .. this wouldn't even be a discussion.
You are suppose to get what ya pay for. they paid top dollar for the best and their best has 1.5 sacks .. :chuckle:
He is no different than Peyton Manning .. Broncos paid BIG bucks for him and look at him play .. PATHETIC... (which I am REALLY happy about!)
So Flacco thinks he's better than Brady, does that mean he ACTUALLY is? Nope, you're (I mean Coastal) still wrong.
It's Mario's fault we lost to the Jets?
You should stop looking at only the sack stat and WATCH how the rest of our D-Line has improved because of the addition of Mario. I'd tell you to ask your 'husband' about it, but I don't think he gets it either.
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Originally Posted by
Joe Fo Sho
You should stop looking at only the sack stat and WATCH how the rest of our D-Line has improved because of the addition of Mario. I'd tell you to ask your 'husband' about it, but I don't think he gets it either.
Did you read my last post??
I said I would go easy on the guy if he continues what he is doing??
and people give me **** for not reading ... :sigh:
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hes drawing doubles has 1.5 sacks and others are stepping up like kyle williams and dareus in fact everyone has looked good since the jets game
they are all a byproduct of each other and we actually get pressure now unlike other years
the mario signing is a win for the bills!!!
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The defense is going to get 40-50 sacks, which is a vast improvement over last season. The run defense is also better, although not yet what one could call dominant. The stats will come, as long as everybody stays relatively healthy. Also, they might read a little bit differently if Wannstadt would mix things up a little bit more, and send more guys on occasion. I don't care how good a team's front four is on their own, unless they are going against really ****ty olines the 4 on 5 wins aren't going to come as regularly as some would expect. You've got to send different guys, at different times, and keep the offensive line, backs, and especially the QB guessing. At least we've seen some line stunts the last couple of games, which was literally non-existent against the Jets. I'm not worried about Mario's individual stats nearly as much as I am the performance and results of the entire unit.
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Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
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Originally Posted by
Blondie
Did you read my last post??
I said I would go easy on the guy if he continues what he is doing??
and people give me **** for not reading ... :sigh:
I assumed that was sarcasm, as you ripped him for not being good, then looked up his projected stats and decided that he was projected to not be good.
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Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
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Originally Posted by
Joe Fo Sho
I assumed that was sarcasm, as you ripped him for not being good, then looked up his projected stats and decided that he was projected to not be good.
With the day I am having I can see if you felt some sarcasm in my post .. LOL
However I was being serious.
His first two games were not good. That is unarguable. However, when I looked at his projected stats and did the math he is right on target. So I said I would go easy. It is kind of hard to argue when you break down the stats and go by them.
I still think he looks like a player who is playing it safe and wanting to protect his paycheck.
He was injured in 2010 and was out for the rest of the year. He was injured again in 2011 and out for the rest of the year .. I am sure he does not want an injury cuz if he goes out again on injury his career will be done. And maybe that is why I see someone who is playing it safe out there.
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Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
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Originally Posted by
Blondie
With the day I am having I can see if you felt some sarcasm in my post .. LOL
However I was being serious.
His first two games were not good. That is unarguable. However, when I looked at his projected stats and did the math he is right on target. So I said I would go easy. It is kind of hard to argue when you break down the stats and go by them.
I still think he looks like a player who is playing it safe and wanting to protect his paycheck.
He was injured in 2010 and was out for the rest of the year. He was injured again in 2011 and out for the rest of the year .. I am sure he does not want an injury cuz if he goes out again on injury his career will be done. And maybe that is why I see someone who is playing it safe out there.
I'm curious about the 'protecting his paycheck' argument.
I understand that some people don't know how to manage their finances, however if he's trying to protect his paycheck then he understands that his money won't come forever. I also thought that there was an 'easy' out for the Bills after 2 or 3 years without costing them a ton of cap space. Does anyone know about that?
If that is true, then he needs to play WELL in order to protect his paycheck, instead of playing safe.
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What does this guy do... all I see is him dancing around.
For his pay his Ass should be all over Brady.