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Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"
I think Mario and #76 should get a room so they can make out.
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he was invisible today and seemed disinterested when things went south :(
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He got his 1 sack last week, just give him 'till week 10 to get another one, and then he'll show all the doubters he's worth his contract.
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Patriots his first real test..
Man I can only imagine what he'll do against the 49ers..
Like I sad he has a paycheck to protect and that is more important ... loser
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Anyone? Bueller?
2 tackles.. Single teamed...
All.
Day.
long... Again.
$100 million.
u can all shampoo my crotch.
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coastal
Anyone? Bueller?
2 tackles.. Single teamed...
All.
Day.
long... Again.
$100 million.
u can all shampoo my crotch.
Darn it... if I knew going against you would have led to your crotch I would have been all over that!!
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Dareus and Kyle showed some life today and did make a couple first half plays before they joined the rest of the D in just giving in in the second half. However, yeah Coasty, Mario is a waste. He's done some good things this year, but I cannot justify him paying 100 mill
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Gibby
Dareus and Kyle showed some life today and did make a couple first half plays before they joined the rest of the D in just giving in in the second half. However, yeah Coasty, Mario is a waste. He's done some good things this year, but I cannot justify him paying 100 mill
Thank u.
next step... Getting the rest of the "at least we're relevant" crowd on board.
the "Super Mario" mouth breathers are hopeless.
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LOL, where are all those people that were defending him?
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the biggest thing I've noticed while watching Williams is how slow he is off the ball. He has no burst or explosion off the line and is easily blocked every play.
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billsburgh
the biggest thing I've noticed while watching Williams is how slow he is off the ball. He has no burst or explosion off the line and is easily blocked every play.
Watching him today, he would just stand up and watch the play go by. Wth?
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Jeff1220
Watching him today, he would just stand up and watch the play go by. Wth?
Maybe he was afraid of getting hurt??
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I was at the Jets game and Mario phoned it in. Period.
He had a decent game last week, I'll give him that.
Today he was again phoning it in.
Can anyone say Haynesworth II?
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Mr. Cynical
I was at the Jets game and Mario phoned it in. Period.
He had a decent game last week, I'll give him that.
Today he was again phoning it in.
Can anyone say Haynesworth II?
It just seems like anyone who gets paid by this organization the past 4-5 years goes from Ok-good to outright crap.
Baffling.
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FunTimesYaY!
It just seems like anyone who gets paid by this organization the past 4-5 years goes from Ok-good to outright crap.
Baffling.
Maybe it's because they get them when they're no longer at their best?
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Blondie
Maybe it's because they get them when they're no longer at their best?
Are you saying Fitz is no longer at his best? He's part of that equation too.
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Right now he looks like a guy we cut, Maybin. He has one move, pass rush outside, and gets pushed behind the QB over and over again.
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FunTimesYaY!
Are you saying Fitz is no longer at his best? He's part of that equation too.
No.
But Mario's bests is long gone and the bills thought maybe if we pay him $100 million he will find his best again... lol... yeah right!
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Wilfork's wife would get to the QB before Mario.
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He's on pace for 6 sacks.
Six.
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SquishDaFish
Man I would like to see you play football Coast. See what you say then LOL
I didn't play football growing up.
I played hockey... half the time with one arm hanging out of its socket. I left everything I had out on the ice every time i played and didn't stop until I lost my medical clearance to play because of my shoulder.
Mario is a butt-****ing quitter.
I never was.
what else do u have?
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DraftBoy
Scheme.
Did u watch him today?
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coastal
Did u watch him today?
I did and I have two points;
1. He's not 100% or really all that close and I dont know if that's the injury or a lack of conditioning
2. Our scheme is not built for his style
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DraftBoy
I did and I have two points;
1. He's not 100% or really all that close and I dont know if that's the injury or a lack of conditioning
2. Our scheme is not built for his style
if you're a defensive linemen in the NFL... my guess is your always injured.
so we spent $100 million on someone who doesn't fit what we want to do? Either that or we spent $100 million and refuse to put him in a position to succeed?!
either way... Dysfunctional organization and a scam on Ralph's part to show his fan (revenue) base that they're committed.
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coastal
if you're a defensive linemen in the NFL... my guess is your always injured.
so we spent $100 million on someone who doesn't fit what we want to do? Either that or we spent $100 million and refuse to put him in a position to succeed?!
either way... Dysfunctional organization and a scam on Ralph's part to show his fan (revenue) base that they're committed.
1-Well yes always nicked up but this is different something is not right, and its not his lack of stats, just watching him he doesn't look 100%
2-No I agree, while I love the signing why you bring Mario into a scheme that calls for the DE's to get up field and have no concern for gap responsibility is beyond me. He's not a Julius Peppers like freak in terms of speed and burst. He's a power guy who can beat the RT with his athleticism. Our scheme doesn't allow him to do what he does best.
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The whole line was slow off the snap yesterday, including MW. The difference I saw was that the rest of the line usually appeared to try on most plays. On most plays I watched MW take a step or two, stand up, and watch the play go by.
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DraftBoy
I did and I have two points;
1. He's not 100% or really all that close and I dont know if that's the injury or a lack of conditioning
2. Our scheme is not built for his style
The scheme excuse makes no sense to be honest. He is a DE in a 4-3 playing the same position he played in college. He needs to beat the OT and pressure the QB. No matter what the scheme he has to do that. And he isn't.
Scheme has ZERO to do with it. And its irrelevant because he is playing DE in a 4-3 which is what he knows.
All that being said, he is definitely playing hurt. You can see that his left wrist is padded and heavily taped. He is probably having difficulty pushing off and disengaging.
Apparently he injured it in pre-season.
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Mahdi
The scheme excuse makes no sense to be honest. He is a DE in a 4-3 playing the same position he played in college. He needs to beat the OT and pressure the QB. No matter what the scheme he has to do that. And he isn't.
Scheme has ZERO to do with it. And its irrelevant because he is playing DE in a 4-3 which is what he knows.
All that being said, he is definitely playing hurt. You can see that his left wrist is padded and heavily taped. He is probably having difficulty pushing off and disengaging.
Apparently he injured it in pre-season.
I agree that scheme is no excuse, but neither is injury. If he's injured enough to be that ineffective, he shouldn't be on the field. Plenty of good DEs have played hurt and gotten the job done.
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Jeff1220
I agree that scheme is no excuse, but neither is injury. If he's injured enough to be that ineffective, he shouldn't be on the field. Plenty of good DEs have played hurt and gotten the job done.
I agree he should be doing more despite the injury however injury does affect your game. If his wrist is in fact messed up then all that hand fighting DEs need to do will be a losing battle for him.
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You may be on to something with this "fool's gold" thread.
He certainly hasn't done much to warrant a starting spot, let alone the biggest contract of the offseason.
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Originally Posted by
Mahdi
The scheme excuse makes no sense to be honest. He is a DE in a 4-3 playing the same position he played in college. He needs to beat the OT and pressure the QB. No matter what the scheme he has to do that. And he isn't.
Scheme has ZERO to do with it. And its irrelevant because he is playing DE in a 4-3 which is what he knows.
All that being said, he is definitely playing hurt. You can see that his left wrist is padded and heavily taped. He is probably having difficulty pushing off and disengaging.
Apparently he injured it in pre-season.
No it has a lot to do with it. The 43 is simply the alignment, the assignment or role you ask your DE's to take. Like asking a power DE to run up the field 5-7 yards matters greatly.
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DraftBoy
No it has a lot to do with it. The 43 is simply the alignment, the assignment or role you ask your DE's to take. Like asking a power DE to run up the field 5-7 yards matters greatly.
Mario Williams is not just a Power DE, he has speed too. And many of his sacks come through speed rushes. Power is a big part of his game but he obviously doesn't have that right now with that wrist injury.
Bottom line, is I watch Mario attack the OT in every way possible and nothing is working for him. He needs to sit till he sorts out his injury.
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Mahdi
Mario Williams is not just a Power DE, he has speed too. And many of his sacks come through speed rushes. Power is a big part of his game but he obviously doesn't have that right now with that wrist injury.
Bottom line, is I watch Mario attack the OT in every way possible and nothing is working for him. He needs to sit till he sorts out his injury.
Yes he's athletic for a power DE, but he's not Julius Peppers out there, nor was he ever. That's a large misconception.
I agree the injury is an issue still, but so is the way we are trying to make him rush. Let him play with his gap assignment and work inside and out, not just outside as he does on the large majority of his snaps.
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are we talking about the injury from last year that cost him most of the season or is this a new injury that the team has been quiet about? If it is the old injury from last year, the Bills medical staff should be strung up for giving their OK to signing him to that ridiculous contract.
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DraftBoy
Yes he's athletic for a power DE, but he's not Julius Peppers out there, nor was he ever. That's a large misconception.
I agree the injury is an issue still, but so is the way we are trying to make him rush. Let him play with his gap assignment and work inside and out, not just outside as he does on the large majority of his snaps.
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billsburgh
are we talking about the injury from last year that cost him most of the season or is this a new injury that the team has been quiet about? If it is the old injury from last year, the Bills medical staff should be strung up for giving their OK to signing him to that ridiculous contract.
Old, the pectoral injury could be affecting his power off the ball which has always been phenomenal.
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billsburgh
are we talking about the injury from last year that cost him most of the season or is this a new injury that the team has been quiet about? If it is the old injury from last year, the Bills medical staff should be strung up for giving their OK to signing him to that ridiculous contract.
I was talking about the new one he picked up in preseason. Apparently he injured his wrist badly and they kept it quiet and have been downplaying it.
I think his wrist is more injured than we know and that would explain his inability to get off blocks.
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Mahdi
I was talking about the new one he picked up in preseason. Apparently he injured his wrist badly and they kept it quiet and have been downplaying it.
I think his wrist is more injured than we know and that would explain his inability to get off blocks.
More than a few folks questioned the mega-contract signing of a player with declining stats - especially tackles - in games played after 2009.
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Frankly, Mario doesn't need to get double digit sacks for me to be satisfied. He simply has to play solid. His presence alone adds legitimacy to our team as far as the media is concerned (right or wrong). That brings attention our way. That helps with attracting more talent, getting media attention, and raising excitement. All of that is very good for this team.
The benefit of having Mario reaches beyond the football field. It may be one if the single most impactful moves on the future of this franchise in the past 10 years at least.
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X-Era
Frankly, Mario doesn't need to get double digit sacks for me to be satisfied. He simply has to play solid. His presence alone adds legitimacy to our team as far as the media is concerned (right or wrong). That brings attention our way. That helps with attracting more talent, getting media attention, and raising excitement. All of that is very good for this team.
The benefit of having Mario reaches beyond the football field. It may be one if the single most impactful moves on the future of this franchise in the past 10 years at least.
time for a coastal cleanse...
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coastal
I didn't play football growing up.
I played hockey... half the time with one arm hanging out of its socket.
was that from too much masturbating or too many reach arounds?
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2 more tackles again today.
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The only fool is Ralph Wilson for giving that dude 50M guaranteed.
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FunTimesYaY!
The only fool is Ralph Wilson for giving that dude 50M guaranteed.
The fans aren't fools for buying it?
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coastal
The fans aren't fools for buying it?
No.
You are a fan not a decision maker.
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Glad I didn't buy any tickets this year! Show me results... not free agent signings.
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coastal
The fans aren't fools for buying it?
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Blondie
No.
You are a fan not a decision maker.
I wasn't as excited as many on this board were for signing that guy. Thought we overpaid. But it's not my choice to pay a dude that kind of dollars. He fit a need and the money spent on him at least went to the players on the field and not in Ralphie's pocket. Why blame a fan about getting hyped up about signing the best or at the least the best defensive player in FA last year to play here?
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FunTimesYaY!
I wasn't as excited as many on this board were for signing that guy. Thought we overpaid. But it's not my choice to pay a dude that kind of dollars. He fit a need and the money spent on him at least went to the players on the field and not in Ralphie's pocket. Why blame a fan about getting hyped up about signing the best or at the least the best defensive player in FA last year to play here?
Because it was a dumb decision... like so many others before it.
and once fans stop buying into the crap OBD sells, then and only then will there be real change.
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well he is up to 14 tackles! He is projected to have 37!
He is suppose to average 2.31 tackles per game to stay in par and he is at 2.8 tackles per game ... and he has 3.5 sacks ( 2 from yesterday ) would have LOVED if it would have been Brady but it appears he is earning his money..
I personally would like to see more .. maybe because coming off those 2 nasty losses where the defense allowed an insane amount of points ...
thought now on how Mario's is playing ..
:popcorn:
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Blondie
well he is up to 14 tackles! He is projected to have 37!
He is suppose to average 2.31 tackles per game to stay in par and he is at 2.8 tackles per game ... and he has 3.5 sacks ( 2 from yesterday ) would have LOVED if it would have been Brady but it appears he is earning his money..
I personally would like to see more .. maybe because coming off those 2 nasty losses where the defense allowed an insane amount of points ...
thought now on how Mario's is playing ..
:popcorn:
I thought he was robbed of a sack yesterday - when Kolb threw the ball out on his way down. I thought it should have been ruled a sack...