Re: Time to blow this team up
There is a scenario where we end up with the perfect offseason. Say we hire Chip Kelly as head coach, Rex Ryan as DC, draft Manti Te'o in the first round, and draft someone like Landry Jones or Tyler Wilson in the 2nd round, we're ready to make a run in 2014 with a GREAT team.
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FunTimesYaY!
We are miles away from teams like the Texans, Patriots, Bears, Saints and Niners.
Yes, on any given Sunday you could win, true. However we'd lose to any of those teams 95 times out of 100 the way we all stand right now.
There's a huge talent gap between us and them as well as just as huge of a coaching gap.
I completely disagree.
I bet if Wade Phillips was our DC, our defense would be a hell of a lot better.
There IS talent on this team.
We should be better.
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JoeMama
I completely disagree.
I bet if Wade Phillips was our DC, our defense would be a hell of a lot better.
There IS talent on this team.
We should be better.
With better coaching, we would be better...but what is that better exactly?
Defensively, we've actually played fairly well the past 2 weeks. Offensively we've crapped the bed.
Overall though regardless of coach we have no LBs, uninspired DL play and a weak secondary outside of Byrd. So are we talking 30th defense to 25th with a better coach and scheme?
I do think with better offensive coaching and play calling, regardless of the fact that our QB is complete garbage, we're a 6-5 football team instead of 4-7. And with the way our schedule has played out and how the AFC has shaken out this year besides the top, we'd have an outside shot at being the 6th seed to get blown out by the 3rd seed in all likelihood.
I guess basically what I'm saying is instead of being a bottom dweller team we'd be somewhere in the middle of the pack which is still a talent gap between us and the teams I aforementioned.
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Chip Kelly can have any job he wants, Buffalo is probably dead last on his list. Couldn't even get Shanahan, think about that.
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kingJofNYC
Chip Kelly can have any job he wants, Buffalo is probably dead last on his list. Couldn't even get Shanahan, think about that.
I want Trestman! I know we had some interest in him last go round and it didn't work out but I can still dream.
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Originally Posted by
FunTimesYaY!
With better coaching, we would be better...but what is that better exactly?
Defensively, we've actually played fairly well the past 2 weeks. Offensively we've crapped the bed.
Overall though regardless of coach we have no LBs, uninspired DL play and a weak secondary outside of Byrd. So are we talking 30th defense to 25th with a better coach and scheme?
I do think with better offensive coaching and play calling, regardless of the fact that our QB is complete garbage, we're a 6-5 football team instead of 4-7. And with the way our schedule has played out and how the AFC has shaken out this year besides the top, we'd have an outside shot at being the 6th seed to get blown out by the 3rd seed in all likelihood.
I guess basically what I'm saying is instead of being a bottom dweller team we'd be somewhere in the middle of the pack which is still a talent gap between us and the teams I aforementioned.
Look what Mike Smith did in Atlanta, John Harbaugh did in Baltimore, Jim Harbaugh did in San Francisco, etc etc. IN THEIR FIRST YEARS.
Sometimes all it takes is a little coaching and you can transform a team with "no talent" into a winner.
Chan Gailey is historically bad. I would say easily worse than Dick Jauron.
Keep in mind, this is year three of Gailey's tenure. It's supposed to be his winning year. Instead we're as bad as when we started.
All because of one awful coach.
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JoeMama
Look what Mike Smith did in Atlanta, John Harbaugh did in Baltimore, Jim Harbaugh did in San Francisco, etc etc.
Sometimes all it takes is a little coaching and you can transform a team with "no talent" into a winner.
Chan Gailey is historically bad. I would say easily worse than Dick Jauron.
I think Atlanta and San Fran are more talented than us and were more talented than us before they got their two new coaches. Matt Ryan and Patrick Willis respectively.
I do agree on your last statement. I actually think we're a 6-5 team right now if Jauron was still the HC based on how he handled the offense with Losman here, he'd do the same thing now with Fitz and hide him as much as possible and ride our strong rushing attack.
Which shouldn't be that hard to figure out for any legitimate HC. Since it's glaringly obvious the strength of this offense/team is the rushing attack.
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We need heart and leadership. No one looks like they give a **** out there.
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The situation is irreparable at this point. Send the team to LA and let them fix this mess.
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X-Era
Personally, I have no interest in a full rebuild. But I do want a legit QB to be found in the off-season. Plus a new DC, ILB, and OLB.
You forgot new head coach.
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JoeMama
I completely disagree.
I bet if Wade Phillips was our DC, our defense would be a hell of a lot better.
There IS talent on this team.
We should be better.
how about perry fewell
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Johnny Bugmenot
The situation is irreparable at this point. Send the team to LA and let them fix this mess.
Run into a highway.
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HAMMER
No need to blow it up, you can't keep starting over. It is time to find a QB though.
No one wants to start over, but we have to. Here's the problem: when you build everything wrong from the beginning, it will always be wrong. You could give this FO and coaching staff 50 years and they will never win. They are simply incompetent.
And yes, we definitely need a QB. But unfortunately, this team's problems go far beyond QB. We've been loading up on D in the draft and spent $100 million on the best defensive FA available, but the D still sucks. We gave up ST touchdowns in consecutive weeks.
This team is a disaster on an almost incomprehensible level. A better QB would definitely help, but even with a real QB, the team won't win with the D and ST sucking.
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Beebe's Kid
Quit whining. You are a pussy.
XOXO,
BBK
I will still be at every remaining game this year while you are home typing up short stories.
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David Shaw of Stanford looks like he's done even a better job at Stanford than Harbaugh. His D looks good. O playcalling is excellent. Resembles an NFL team. Tough and physical. Smart. Being black may help the players respond to him. Luck loved the guy.
Father was a long time NFL asst. coach. He's had a couple stnts as an asst. in the NFL, so he knows what is expected. If Nix retires and Whaley takes over, I could see the attraction and it's justified. Far better option than the gadget driven unknown in Chip Kelly. Call Shaw and let him bring his staff.
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If we follow Houston's model, we should be in the playoffs by 2018!
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It starts and ends with the Quarterback, period
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Night Train
David Shaw of Stanford looks like he's done even a better job at Stanford than Harbaugh. His D looks good. O playcalling is excellent. Resembles an NFL team. Tough and physical. Smart. Being black may help the players respond to him. Luck loved the guy.
Father was a long time NFL asst. coach. He's had a couple stnts as an asst. in the NFL, so he knows what is expected. If Nix retires and Whaley takes over, I could see the attraction and it's justified. Far better option than the gadget driven unknown in Chip Kelly. Call Shaw and let him bring his staff.
He may never leave Stanford. That's his dream job.
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fmr60
If the Bills don't do anything positive in the off-season then there will be a big drop in season ticket sales next year. And I will participate in the drop.
Me too. Tired of this broken record.
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Blown up? Why? So we can get rid of the talent we have and start over again? That makes no sense.
We have a good OL and a DL that is coming to together. We have a #1 WR, a TE and 2 top RBs. We have a #1CB, and a solid FS.
Serious help needed --> LB corps (at least 2 new LBs), SS (we need a SS with more instinct and range), slot CB (we don't have anyone that can cover a slot receiver), #2WR (we need a big WR opposite Stevie), QB (we need a QB with a better arm)
Basically, the things we have been asking for for the last 10 years we finally have, we've been preaching that the team need to be built from the Lines out.
Now we actually have done that and ppl want to blow it up? How about we put more talent behind those lines and continue building instead?