Everyone, including me, has been under the assumption that Jauron would make the pick at QB. Although he has final say many considered Fairchild as the best available OC out in the market when we took him. He likes throwing the ball downfield and having an explosive offense. I just don't see Holcomb in a Fairchild offenseive scheme which bodes well for Losman.
Yesterday camp report was the first time I've heard the O concentrate on the long balls. KH has been good for the most part of the camp and arguably ahead of both Nall and JP until yesterday. Now that they are concentrating on the deep routes, I think this is where he get's left behind by the two younguns.
Holcom is not the guy for a Ram style offense, however, the offense Jauron employed in Chicago was more dink and dunk where a guy like Shane Matthews will function.
If Fairchild has control, it is hard to imagine Holcomb being the QB, but if Jauron is more involved it's hard to imagine Holcomb NOT being the QB.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
I hadn't heard anything where Holcomb was better in camp at any point.Originally Posted by justasportsfan
Then you haven't been around. This is also why I said 'arguably'
Two points of interest...
1) Holcomb being better. Only because until this week, he has taken the meat of the snaps with the first string. As JP got more reps, he started getting much better. Funny how that works.
2) Marv Levy and Ralph Wilson said their Ideal coach is a guy who delegates authority. He lets his OC and DC run that part of the team while just overseeing the overall operation.
IMHO this is the only reason Sherman wasn't our HC, he also wanted to be the OC. Now if this is true, Fairchild will make the decision. If that is the case....its JP or Nall.
This is Jauron's second stint as head coach. I have to believe that he has learned a thing or two. He is a D minded caoch. Fairchild's offenses were 2nd in the NFC and 4th overall in passing. Marc Bulgar went to his first pro-Bowl with Fairchild as the OC.
If you bring in Fairchild and than implement a "dink and dunk" offense I think you will be hearing it from the fans!!
I agree again with u Ice, the offense installed here is wide open and attacking, Holocomb is more of a ball control specialist who concentrates on slants/screens and dink and dunk passes to try and minimize mistakes, JP and Nall are suited better for this and that is why i dont think any of the reports mean anything when all is said and done JP will start and Nall will mop up if JP falters
Especially with all the speed at WR. That would go to waste with Holcomb.
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Jauron went dink and dunk and failed as a HC. Fans say with fairchilds wide open offense we wont' have a power running attack.
Guess what? 1) there is no such thing, 2) we dont' want one. You win with the PASS.
Great teams use the pass to set up the run. We will do that. Faulk still put up great numbers rushing in St Louis under this same type of system. The Bills were in the top 2 rushing in the league during a good chunk of our superbowl years doing the exact same thing also.
Look at KC, Green was #2 in passing yards but Johnson still got 1700 rushing (that isn't including holmes numbers). So it can be done.
3 wide, 1 TE, 1RB needs to be the base set with this talent.
How is Buffalo going to run a "Rams Style" offense when they
1) Don't play in a dome
2) Play in the wind
3) Play in the cold
4) play in the snow
And what I recall of the Rams style offense was that they used Faulk alot both running and passing, and threw alot of quick passes to WRs and let the rack up YAC. If that's the case, then the Bills will go with Holcomb, since he reads a defense better, better with the short passes and gets rid of the ball quickly.
With the speed the Bills have at WR, this offense will be fit for Holcomb style of play. Get the Ball to the Recievers and let them run.
But let the best man win.
1) it didn't stop the Kgun
2) it didn't stop the Kgun
3) it didn't stop the Kgun
4) it didn't stop the Kgun
You are incorrect on the Rams offense as well.
If you're a speed receiver (or any receiver), is it more likely that you'll be open after two seconds or five seconds? If you're not open, I don't care how fast you are, you'll get tackled (especially our string-bean WRs). They're going to have to create separation BEFORE the catch, and that will take time Holcomb cannot give us behind this line.
Plus you also want the option to throw deep in order to open up the O and make it easier to run the ball. KH limits our O into a one dimensional passing game because he can't go deep. DB's will almost know that we're dinking and dunking the ball everytime we pass. A weak arm defeats the purpose of having speedy wr's that can stretch the field.
Holcomb proved he can't/doesn't want to throw the long ball in the last day of camp yesterday when he chose to throw it for 25 yards, instead of the 50-60 that other players were throwing it for.
And, you want willis to run? The get guys out of the damn box. Let the OL pick up one good series of teams coming after JP and let him burn them for 50 yards or so on one drive that ends in a TD pass. You will see them back out of that box to blitz/ Stop the run real damn quick.
Plus you also want the option to throw deep in order to open up the O and make it easier to run the ball. KH limits our O into a one dimensional passing game because he can't go deep. DB's will almost know that we're dinking and dunking the ball everytime we pass. A weak arm defeats the purpose of having speedy wr's that can stretch the field.
Its easy to run when you must respect the pass. and that is on the OFFENSIVE LINE moreso than the QB.
The Rams were not a long ball type offense, like so many of you are implying.
Marc Bulger last year had 286 pass Att. last year and 243 of them were for 20 yards or less. More proof that Holcomb fits the "Rams Style" of offense better then JP does. Since Holcomb excells on passes for less then 20 yards.
The Rams offense was a 0-20 yard pass type offense. letting the WR catch the ball and run after it.
The historcial references show that I am correct. I have fact's to back up my opinion. You have (aussmptions) nothing to back up your opinion other then saying im wrong.
look fellas jp is going to be the qb on opening day, i guarantee it
now lets talk about something else - how bout those cheerleaders eh
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