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  • HHURRICANE
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    • Mar 2005
    • 15490

    Fairchild may end QB contoversy!

    Everyone, including me, has been under the assumption that Jauron would make the pick at QB. Although he has final say many considered Fairchild as the best available OC out in the market when we took him. He likes throwing the ball downfield and having an explosive offense. I just don't see Holcomb in a Fairchild offenseive scheme which bodes well for Losman.
  • justasportsfan
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 71579

    #2
    Re: Fairchild may end QB contoversy!

    Yesterday camp report was the first time I've heard the O concentrate on the long balls. KH has been good for the most part of the camp and arguably ahead of both Nall and JP until yesterday. Now that they are concentrating on the deep routes, I think this is where he get's left behind by the two younguns.
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    • Earthquake Enyart
      Legendary Zoner
      • Jul 2002
      • 27521

      #3
      Re: Fairchild may end QB contoversy!

      Holcom is not the guy for a Ram style offense, however, the offense Jauron employed in Chicago was more dink and dunk where a guy like Shane Matthews will function.

      If Fairchild has control, it is hard to imagine Holcomb being the QB, but if Jauron is more involved it's hard to imagine Holcomb NOT being the QB.

      It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

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      • HHURRICANE
        Registered User
        • Mar 2005
        • 15490

        #4
        Re: Fairchild may end QB contoversy!

        Originally posted by justasportsfan
        Yesterday camp report was the first time I've heard the O concentrate on the long balls. KH has been good for the most part of the camp and arguably ahead of both Nall and JP until yesterday. Now that they are concentrating on the deep routes, I think this is where he get's left behind by the two younguns.
        I hadn't heard anything where Holcomb was better in camp at any point.

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        • justasportsfan
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 71579

          #5
          Re: Fairchild may end QB contoversy!

          Originally posted by HHURRICANE
          I hadn't heard anything where Holcomb was better in camp at any point.
          Then you haven't been around. This is also why I said 'arguably'
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          • ICE74129
            Legendary Zoner
            • Feb 2005
            • 10796

            #6
            Re: Fairchild may end QB contoversy!

            Two points of interest...

            1) Holcomb being better. Only because until this week, he has taken the meat of the snaps with the first string. As JP got more reps, he started getting much better. Funny how that works.

            2) Marv Levy and Ralph Wilson said their Ideal coach is a guy who delegates authority. He lets his OC and DC run that part of the team while just overseeing the overall operation.

            IMHO this is the only reason Sherman wasn't our HC, he also wanted to be the OC. Now if this is true, Fairchild will make the decision. If that is the case....its JP or Nall.

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            • HHURRICANE
              Registered User
              • Mar 2005
              • 15490

              #7
              Re: Fairchild may end QB contoversy!

              Originally posted by Earthquake Enyart
              Holcom is not the guy for a Ram style offense, however, the offense Jauron employed in Chicago was more dink and dunk where a guy like Shane Matthews will function.

              If Fairchild has control, it is hard to imagine Holcomb being the QB, but if Jauron is more involved it's hard to imagine Holcomb NOT being the QB.

              It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
              This is Jauron's second stint as head coach. I have to believe that he has learned a thing or two. He is a D minded caoch. Fairchild's offenses were 2nd in the NFC and 4th overall in passing. Marc Bulgar went to his first pro-Bowl with Fairchild as the OC.

              If you bring in Fairchild and than implement a "dink and dunk" offense I think you will be hearing it from the fans!!

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              • bigbub2352
                Registered User
                • Feb 2005
                • 5386

                #8
                Re: Fairchild may end QB contoversy!

                I agree again with u Ice, the offense installed here is wide open and attacking, Holocomb is more of a ball control specialist who concentrates on slants/screens and dink and dunk passes to try and minimize mistakes, JP and Nall are suited better for this and that is why i dont think any of the reports mean anything when all is said and done JP will start and Nall will mop up if JP falters
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                • Philagape
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 19432

                  #9
                  Re: Fairchild may end QB contoversy!

                  Especially with all the speed at WR. That would go to waste with Holcomb.
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                  • ICE74129
                    Legendary Zoner
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 10796

                    #10
                    Re: Fairchild may end QB contoversy!

                    Originally posted by HHURRICANE
                    This is Jauron's second stint as head coach. I have to believe that he has learned a thing or two. He is a D minded caoch. Fairchild's offenses were 2nd in the NFC and 4th overall in passing. Marc Bulgar went to his first pro-Bowl with Fairchild as the OC.

                    If you bring in Fairchild and than implement a "dink and dunk" offense I think you will be hearing it from the fans!!
                    Jauron went dink and dunk and failed as a HC. Fans say with fairchilds wide open offense we wont' have a power running attack.

                    Guess what? 1) there is no such thing, 2) we dont' want one. You win with the PASS.

                    Great teams use the pass to set up the run. We will do that. Faulk still put up great numbers rushing in St Louis under this same type of system. The Bills were in the top 2 rushing in the league during a good chunk of our superbowl years doing the exact same thing also.

                    Look at KC, Green was #2 in passing yards but Johnson still got 1700 rushing (that isn't including holmes numbers). So it can be done.

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                    • ICE74129
                      Legendary Zoner
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 10796

                      #11
                      Re: Fairchild may end QB contoversy!

                      Originally posted by Philagape
                      Especially with all the speed at WR. That would go to waste with Holcomb.
                      3 wide, 1 TE, 1RB needs to be the base set with this talent.

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                      • TacklingDummy
                        Unreachable Douche
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 71725

                        #12
                        Re: Fairchild may end QB contoversy!

                        How is Buffalo going to run a "Rams Style" offense when they

                        1) Don't play in a dome

                        2) Play in the wind

                        3) Play in the cold

                        4) play in the snow

                        And what I recall of the Rams style offense was that they used Faulk alot both running and passing, and threw alot of quick passes to WRs and let the rack up YAC. If that's the case, then the Bills will go with Holcomb, since he reads a defense better, better with the short passes and gets rid of the ball quickly.

                        With the speed the Bills have at WR, this offense will be fit for Holcomb style of play. Get the Ball to the Recievers and let them run.

                        But let the best man win.

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                        • ICE74129
                          Legendary Zoner
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 10796

                          #13
                          Re: Fairchild may end QB contoversy!

                          Originally posted by TacklingDummy
                          How is Buffalo going to run a "Rams Style" offense when they

                          1) Don't play in a dome

                          2) Play in the wind

                          3) Play in the cold

                          4) play in the snow

                          And what I recall of the Rams style offense was that they used Faulk alot both running and passing, and threw alot of quick passes to WRs and let the rack up YAC. If that's the case, then the Bills will go with Holcomb, since he reads a defense better, better with the short passes and gets rid of the ball quickly.

                          With the speed the Bills have at WR, this offense will be fit for Holcomb style of play. Get the Ball to the Recievers and let them run.


                          But let the best man win.
                          1) it didn't stop the Kgun
                          2) it didn't stop the Kgun
                          3) it didn't stop the Kgun
                          4) it didn't stop the Kgun

                          You are incorrect on the Rams offense as well.

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                          • Philagape
                            WIN NOW
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 19432

                            #14
                            Re: Fairchild may end QB contoversy!

                            If you're a speed receiver (or any receiver), is it more likely that you'll be open after two seconds or five seconds? If you're not open, I don't care how fast you are, you'll get tackled (especially our string-bean WRs). They're going to have to create separation BEFORE the catch, and that will take time Holcomb cannot give us behind this line.
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                            • justasportsfan
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 71579

                              #15
                              Re: Fairchild may end QB contoversy!

                              Originally posted by ICE74129
                              1) it didn't stop the Kgun
                              2) it didn't stop the Kgun
                              3) it didn't stop the Kgun
                              4) it didn't stop the Kgun

                              .


                              Plus you also want the option to throw deep in order to open up the O and make it easier to run the ball. KH limits our O into a one dimensional passing game because he can't go deep. DB's will almost know that we're dinking and dunking the ball everytime we pass. A weak arm defeats the purpose of having speedy wr's that can stretch the field.
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