Ralph's record w/o Polian

[Mr. Cynical]

Ralph's record without Polian (post merger) is:

Before Polian: 88-153

After Polian: 93-99

Discuss....

[Carlton Bailey]

Re: Ralph's record w/o Polian

Pretty much. Wilson's so overrated it's ridiculous.

[Mr. Cynical]

Re: Ralph's record w/o Polian

I admire what he did to establish the team but that goes only so far when you want a championship team in your lifetime.

[The_Philster]

Re: Ralph's record w/o Polian

You taken on my challenge yet?

[Mr. Cynical]

Re: Ralph's record w/o Polian

Which is? Please be more specific. Contrary to your constant accusations of my psychic powers, I can't read minds.

[The_Philster]

Re: Ralph's record w/o Polian

Which is? Please be more specific. Contrary to your constant accusations of my psychic powers, I can't read minds.

Curse out the VP of your company who just happens to be the offspring of the President of your company. You've done a pretty good job of bashing Ralph for doing what most employers would do...or do you think your situation is different? Maybe you've got a job where you can get away with that. I'll lay odds that you're in the minority in a big way if that's the case.

[Mr. Cynical]

Re: Ralph's record w/o Polian

Curse out the VP of your company who just happens to be the offspring of the President of your company. You've done a pretty good job of bashing Ralph for doing what most employers would do...or do you think your situation is different? Maybe you've got a job where you can get away with that. I'll lay odds that you're in the minority in a big way if that's the case.

Regardless of why he fired him, my point is that Ralph is nothing special as an owner as is evident by his overall record. The only time the Bills were special was with Polian.

[The_Philster]

Re: Ralph's record w/o Polian

Regardless of why he fired him, my point is that Ralph is nothing special as an owner as is evident by his overall record. The only time the Bills were special was with Polian.

I realize that...doesn't excuse what he did. It doesn't matter if you're the best employee in the history of the company (and, IMO, Polian was one of the best in Bills history), you won't get away with everything

[Mr. Cynical]

Re: Ralph's record w/o Polian

I realize that...doesn't excuse what he did. It doesn't matter if you're the best employee in the history of the company (and, IMO, Polian was one of the best in Bills history), you won't get away with everything

So the first 3 words of your post..."I realize that".....are you agreeing with me about Ralph (disregarding the Polian incident)? If you say yes I'm gonna faint.

[John Doe]

Re: Ralph's record w/o Polian

Regardless of why he fired him, my point is that Ralph is nothing special as an owner as is evident by his overall record. The only time the Bills were special was with Polian.

AFL championships have to count for something.

Ralph got 2 of them without Polian.

[The_Philster]

Re: Ralph's record w/o Polian

So the first 3 words of your post..."I realize that".....are you agreeing with me about Ralph (disregarding the Polian incident)? If you say yes I'm gonna faint.

Not completely...after all, Polian had nothing to do with our success in the 60s...or the early 80s

[Dozerdog]

Re: Ralph's record w/o Polian

Ralph's record without Polian (post merger) is:

Before Polian: 88-153

After Polian: 93-99

Discuss....

Ralph's record without Levy (post merger) is:

Before Levy: 90-148

After Levy: 91-92

Discuss....





Actually- I have no idea what the point of this discussion is. The Bills won for years after he left, and what does the record during the second half of the Butler & full Donahoe eras have to do with anything?

[Mr. Cynical]

Re: Ralph's record w/o Polian

Ralph's record without Levy (post merger) is:

Before Levy: 90-148

After Levy: 91-92

Discuss....

Actually- I have no idea what the point of this discussion is. The Bills won for years after he left, and what does the record during the second half of the Butler & full Donahoe eras have to do with anything?

I thought the point was pretty clear. When looking at the history of the team (post merger - if you want to hang your hat on the AFL stuff, that's your prerogative) Ralph is not a very good owner except for the one good move of hiring Polian (who is connected to Levy, so your post about his record without Levy is redundant)

And since this team has been terrible now for 6 years it's more apparent he's not getting better with age. Time for a change - just hope that change happens in Buffalo.

[Dozerdog]

Re: Ralph's record w/o Polian

I thought the point was pretty clear. When looking at the history of the team (post merger - if you want to hang your hat on the AFL stuff, that's your prerogative) Ralph is not a very good owner except for the one good move of hiring Polian (who is connected to Levy, so your post about his record without Levy is redundant)

And since this team has been terrible now for 6 years it's more apparent he's not getting better with age. Time for a change - just hope that change happens in Buffalo.

Very Wysonian

"Thow out their 2 championship seasons and you have a lousy owner"....

[Mr. Cynical]

Re: Ralph's record w/o Polian

Very Wysonian

"Thow out their 2 championship seasons and you have a lousy owner"....

You're right. Let's keep patting Ralph on the back for winning 2 championships 40 years ago in a league that has been defunct for 36 years.



That was probably the worst case you could've made for supporting him.