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    Exclamation NFL.com story about QB Battle! Hot off Wire.

    Here's the link......


    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9582163

    Give J.P. the kid the job already there's no competition!!!! thoughts?

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    Re: NFL.com story about QB Battle! Hot off Wire.

    the competition is, and always has been, a charade. If JP doesn't completely blow it, he gets the job.

    It's because Jauron doesn't want to repeat Mularkey's mistake that alienated the vets last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37
    the competition is, and always has been, a charade. If JP doesn't completely blow it, he gets the job.

    It's because Jauron doesn't want to repeat Mularkey's mistake that alienated the vets last year.
    SOOO TRUE!!!!

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    Re: NFL.com story about QB Battle! Hot off Wire.

    It is an unprofessionaly written article. Pat Kirwan is going from respected reporter to hack by leaps and bounds.

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    Re: NFL.com story about QB Battle! Hot off Wire.

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37
    the competition is, and always has been, a charade. If JP doesn't completely blow it, he gets the job.

    It's because Jauron doesn't want to repeat Mularkey's mistake that alienated the vets last year.
    Okay, lets waste valuable reps to JP so we can save face. I'm sure Jauron is real worried about not repeating a rookie head coach's mistakes.
    Penn State head coach Bill O'Brien has known Kelly for nearly 20 years, dating to their days as young I-AA assistants -- O'Brien at Brown, Kelly at New Hampshire.


    "Chip's one of the brightest coaches I've ever spoken to, and that says a lot, because I've been around a lot of smart coaches," O'Brien said. "If he ends up in the NFL, he'll adapt his system to the type of people he has."

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    Re: NFL.com story about QB Battle! Hot off Wire.

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37
    the competition is, and always has been, a charade. If JP doesn't completely blow it, he gets the job.

    It's because Jauron doesn't want to repeat Mularkey's mistake that alienated the vets last year.
    I mostly agree.

    On one hand, if there is no real difference between the two at this stage in terms of ability to make plays, JP's only going to get better, while Holcomb doesnt have much upside left. Thus on this basis alone, only an idiot would start Holcomb if the two play even close to similarly.

    However, I think you have to weigh in the leadership factor. Jauron/Levy are trying to turn this team around and install a winning atmosphere. They can't do that if the team doesn't want to play with JP.

    thus, I think the competition is skewed in JP's favor, but he has to do more than "not blow it" to get the starting job, he has to a) not blow it from a physical, gameplay perspective, and b) show Jauron/Levy that he has the ability to get the team behind him. they need a cohesive team atmosphere as much as they need the QB to make plays.

    That said, and while I'm still not certain that the team likes JP, the smart money is still on him to start.
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    Re: NFL.com story about QB Battle! Hot off Wire.

    Quote Originally Posted by madness
    Okay, lets waste valuable reps to JP so we can save face. I'm sure Jauron is real worried about not repeating a rookie head coach's mistakes.
    ok, let's just hand JP the keys like Mularkey did and have the vets quit after 4 games

    or let's just let journeyman/caretaker Holcomb start so defenses only have to cover 20 yards past the LOS.

    The coaches want JP to start- they just need to prove to the rest of the team that he's capable. The only way to do that is a "competition".

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    Re: NFL.com story about QB Battle! Hot off Wire.

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37
    ok, let's just hand JP the keys like Mularkey did and have the vets quit after 4 games

    or let's just let journeyman/caretaker Holcomb start so defenses only have to cover 20 yards past the LOS.

    The coaches want JP to start- they just need to prove to the rest of the team that he's capable. The only way to do that is a "competition".
    good post!






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    Re: NFL.com story about QB Battle! Hot off Wire.

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37
    ok, let's just hand JP the keys like Mularkey did and have the vets quit after 4 games

    or let's just let journeyman/caretaker Holcomb start so defenses only have to cover 20 yards past the LOS.

    The coaches want JP to start- they just need to prove to the rest of the team that he's capable. The only way to do that is a "competition".

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    Re: NFL.com story about QB Battle! Hot off Wire.

    Quote Originally Posted by madness
    Okay, lets waste valuable reps to JP so we can save face. I'm sure Jauron is real worried about not repeating a rookie head coach's mistakes.
    JP should be the starter period. The only wasted reps are on a career backup in a gimick QB competition. This is nothing but a dog and pony show for a few veterans on this team. Nothing more.

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    Re: NFL.com story about QB Battle! Hot off Wire.

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37
    ok, let's just hand JP the keys like Mularkey did and have the vets quit after 4 games

    or let's just let journeyman/caretaker Holcomb start so defenses only have to cover 20 yards past the LOS.

    The coaches want JP to start- they just need to prove to the rest of the team that he's capable. The only way to do that is a "competition".
    And if the vets quit, then they can hit the bricks just like Moulds, campbell, Teague etc. Sorry they dont run this team. They get paid to Shut up and do their jobs period.

    If there is still that much of an issue then we still have some cutting to do. It doesn't matter if you hate the guy personally, on sunday you better give the man 100% or you are gone. This has become too personal instead of being professional.

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    Re: NFL.com story about QB Battle! Hot off Wire.

    Quote Originally Posted by ICE74129
    And if the vets quit, then they can hit the bricks just like Moulds, campbell, Teague etc. Sorry they dont run this team. They get paid to Shut up and do their jobs period.

    If there is still that much of an issue then we still have some cutting to do. It doesn't matter if you hate the guy personally, on sunday you better give the man 100% or you are gone. This has become too personal instead of being professional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THATHURMANATOR
    Sorry thats fact. We let the players pull that crap last year. It = 5-11. Act like professionals. 'But I want to win now!' ok then Shut up and give the guy 100% and encourage him, don't undermine him and not go 100% because you don't 'like' him.

    There is a clear bottom line here, TD brought in a ton of un professional guys into that locker room. From whats leaking out, Marv still has some to weed out.

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    Re: NFL.com story about QB Battle! Hot off Wire.

    Quote Originally Posted by ICE74129
    Sorry thats fact. We let the players pull that crap last year. It = 5-11. Act like professionals. 'But I want to win now!' ok then Shut up and give the guy 100% and encourage him, don't undermine him and not go 100% because you don't 'like' him.

    There is a clear bottom line here, TD brought in a ton of un professional guys into that locker room. From whats leaking out, Marv still has some to weed out.

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    Re: NFL.com story about QB Battle! Hot off Wire.

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37

    The coaches want JP to start- .
    those liars!!! I thought they wanted the best player to start

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    Re: NFL.com story about QB Battle! Hot off Wire.

    Quote Originally Posted by justasportsfan
    those liars!!! I thought they wanted the best player to start

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    Re: NFL.com story about QB Battle! Hot off Wire.

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    Re: NFL.com story about QB Battle! Hot off Wire.

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37
    the competition is, and always has been, a charade. If JP doesn't completely blow it, he gets the job.

    It's because Jauron doesn't want to repeat Mularkey's mistake that alienated the vets last year.
    If Jauron thought that Losman was the automatic answer at QB he wouldn't have signed Nall and he wouldn't be having an open competition. He doesn't care what people think. He's trying to find a QB. He won't decide until he sees what Nall can do when he gets over the injury, assuming he can come back fairly quickly. He probably told this yoyo as much if the truth is known.

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    Re: NFL.com story about QB Battle! Hot off Wire.

    Quote Originally Posted by ibatiger
    If Jauron thought that Losman was the automatic answer at QB he wouldn't have signed Nall and he wouldn't be having an open competition. He doesn't care what people think. He's trying to find a QB. He won't decide until he sees what Nall can do when he gets over the injury, assuming he can come back fairly quickly. He probably told this yoyo as much if the truth is known.

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