More Carry-On Items Banned on Planes

[Historian]

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You're right Val.

We should make them whip out the tit instead.

[Discotrish]

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I think we should all have to fly naked from now on.

This seems reasonable, BECAUSE, a terrorist who really wanted to smuggle some liquids onto the plane could use Ziploc bags and tape them to his or her body. So at a minimum we would need either strip searches or pat-downs for EVERYONE who gets on the plane, not just randomly.

Also, I guess one of the suspects was a woman with a baby (so much for my profiling idea). Obviously you could hide a bag of liquid or gel in a diaper! So off to the special changing area for the baby's strip search.

Also the extra diapers would have to be thoroughly examined because you could conceal something in the lining of those.

Not to mention anyone's Depends.

I think I'm ready to wet my pants, as I contemplate all this.

Patti

[imbondz]

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And again, I go back to what AWM said, if they're going to blow up a plane, what difference does it make if they ingest the poison?

LOL. I didn't even think of that!!

[Ebenezer]

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How does that seem reasonable and fair? AWM told me earlier in this thread that even though I am drinking a water, it could still be full of something to blow a plane up. What makes any of you think that terrorists won't use a baby to help conceal their actions? If you're going to ban one thing, you've got to ban EVERYTHING. NO EXCEPTIONS!

fine with me...I'd get off the plane 10 minutes faster.

[L.A. Playa]

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just ban babies as carry on items make them fly in the cargo bin with the animals

[imbondz]

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great idea coming up!

we could put all child molestors, and sex offenders (i.e. rapists, deviants) to work at airports doing strip searches. That way, they'll satisfy their deviant behavior, while earning a respectable wage, and keep them from further harming society. Since we refuse to lock them away forever. it's a win-win. These terrorists aren't going to win afterall.

[Valerie]

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fine with me...I'd get off the plane 10 minutes faster.

Exactly. And then you can go and spend the next hour plus getting all the stuff you had to check along with the other 500 people. Fun times.

As funny as what Patti is saying, that's the way things are heading. Once we start to become paranoid about everything pretty soon nothing will be allowed. And then, as someone else mentioned, what happens to the stuff you check? Who's to say what people won't come up with to remotely activate something in the luggage area? By continually banning things, the terrorists are just going to keep coming up with other ways to circumvent the system.

[ArcticWildMan]

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By continually banning things, the terrorists are just going to keep coming up with other ways to circumvent the system.

And hopefully we will be able to stay one step ahead of them each time. These folks aren't going to just give up. They will keep trying to find ways to kill us. I'd rather we adapt to the threats rather than just throw our hands up in the air and give up because it's an inconvenience.

[Discotrish]

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And hopefully we will be able to stay one step ahead of them each time. These folks aren't going to just give up. They will keep trying to find ways to kill us. I'd rather we adapt to the threats rather than just throw our hands up in the air and give up because it's an inconvenience.

I know with the success in foiling this terror plot, it "seems" we are one step ahead. But the way it came about gave me the distinct impression we are one step behind. The reason is that these people came under surveillance because some neighbor or acquaintance tipped off the police a while ago re: suspicious activity. So by using various means and with cooperation of other governments (including Pakistan) they were able to get a lock on what these people were up to, and move in for arrests right before they did anything.

BUT! Our current annoying system of checks is unlikely to have stopped this plot at all! Getting liquids onto a plane? What system did we have in place to prevent that? None. It seems to not have occurred to us that it's possible to cause an explosion with innocent-looking liquids and gels. (As an aside, I wrote something called "Nobody Move! I'm Armed with a Rectal Thermometer" which made the point that there's mecury in those things, so a terrorist armed with one could secrete it you-know-where).

Can't a liquid or gel be hidden in anything that's solid? Can an X-ray detect gel hidden inside a hollowed out book, hairbrush or anything else?

So we'll have to ban liquids, solids...that just leaves gases. Something just stinks about all of this!

Patti

[Ebenezer]

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Exactly. And then you can go and spend the next hour plus getting all the stuff you had to check along with the other 500 people. Fun times.

As funny as what Patti is saying, that's the way things are heading. Once we start to become paranoid about everything pretty soon nothing will be allowed. And then, as someone else mentioned, what happens to the stuff you check? Who's to say what people won't come up with to remotely activate something in the luggage area? By continually banning things, the terrorists are just going to keep coming up with other ways to circumvent the system.

Val, that is just the point...I felt this same way (too much carry on) BEFORE 9/11...people go to the lengths they do because (business travellers at least) companies now refuse to fly people in the night before, etc...a little inconvience never hurt anybody...

[Ebenezer]

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So we'll have to ban liquids, solids...that just leaves gases. Something just stinks about all of this!

it's just the burrito exhaust...

[Discotrish]

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Is it possible to open the emergency door mid-flight? Will extremist Muslims now start seeking this seat? Would you be willing to sit in that row next to an Arabic-looking male with loose shoes?

Patti

[Dr. Lecter]

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if Bill Clinton was president we'd still be deciding if we should invade Afghanistan

Nah. Bill loved sending our military to Haiti, Boasni, Serbia, Iraq (coincidently on the day his trial started!) and other places. He loved to use the military.

One could speculate that he might have invaded Iraq too.

[Ebenezer]

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Is it possible to open the emergency door mid-flight? Will extremist Muslims now start seeking this seat? Would you be willing to sit in that row next to an Arabic-looking male with loose shoes?

Patti

I am an Arabic-looking male with loose shoes...

[Ebenezer]

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Nah. Bill loved sending our military to Haiti, Boasni, Serbia, Iraq (coincidently on the day his trial started!) and other places. He loved to use the military.

One could speculate that he might have invaded Iraq too.

and the Reps screamed for 8 years because he was a draft-dodger...but it is alright for their boy...hypocrites.