We did a little test to see if we could get through security with lighters in our bags on our recent flights. We were able to get back with 4 of them. They found one on our flight home and that's it. Security at BWI was a joke.
We did a little test to see if we could get through security with lighters in our bags on our recent flights. We were able to get back with 4 of them. They found one on our flight home and that's it. Security at BWI was a joke.
Originally Posted by ArcticWildMan
See, you're making the false assumption that these security measures actually keep us safer. Some of them do- some of them are just ridiculous.
You show me one piece of evidence that proves having our shoes X-rayed has prevented even ONE terrorist attack and I will never complain about having to remove my shoes in an airport again. Until then, it's a knee-jerk reaction to something one guy tried once and wasn't even successful.
Hey Op, maybe you should take out a full page add in the NY Times or other national paper pleading to the terrorists to stop trying to develop new ways to blow us up because people can't carry toothpaste with them anymore. I'm sure they'll respect your wishes so they don't inconvenience you.
im talking about getting on and off a plane, all this is good for the economy. They will need to hire more TSA to enforce the new laws and more people will say screw it and buy travel size shampoo, toothpaste etc when tehy arrive at their destination, only problem is if you get stuck overnight somewhere you will have more smelly people on the planeOriginally Posted by OpIv37
my point exactly- it's a big hassle without making us safer. Either make us safer, or don't hassle us- but don't inconvenience everyone unless there's some benefit.Originally Posted by BAM
The fact that there haven't been any other attempts via a shoe bomb proves that it works don't you think?Originally Posted by OpIv37
I have to say, I hate taking my shoes off too. I usually don't wear socks so I'm barefoot. When I went to NY a few weeks ago, there was a man in front of me with his shoes off. His feet were sweating so badly, he left footprints. I was disgusted to have to walk behind in on his wet, gross footprints. It's unsanitary!
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Not a piece of my soul that I ain't searched
The only answer I found for all this hurt
Is there ain't not answer here on earth
maybe we should find out if terrorists are actually trying to put explosives in toothpast tubes or if it's even possible to put enough explosives in a toothpaste tube to damage an airliner or maybe we should find other ways to detect explosives besides all-out banning things.Originally Posted by ArcticWildMan
And if toothpaste tubes are so dangerous why are they allowed on airplanes even in carry-on luggage? Ever heard of remote detonation?
or better yet- maybe we should treat the root causes of terrorism instead of the symptoms.
or maybe it proves that the shoe bomb idea wasn't a very good one in the first place so the terrorists abandoned it.Originally Posted by ArcticWildMan
The Simpsons explains it best:
Homer: Well, there's not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol is sure doing its job.
Lisa: That's specious reasoning, Dad.
Homer: Thank you, sweetie.
Lisa: Dad, what if I were to tell you that this rock keeps away tigers.
Homer: Uh-huh, and how does it work?
Lisa: It doesn't work. It's just a stupid rock.
Homer: I see.
Lisa: But you don't see any tigers around, do you?
Homer: Lisa, I'd like to buy your rock.
I figure a good Terror scare is deflecting the American attention from some other issue
As an FAA employee I'll clue you in on something.....ALL checked baggage is screened for explosives. Explosives leave a residue that these machines can pick up. Your carry on isn't screened, thus the reason for this latest attempt.Originally Posted by OpIv37
An actual threat and the means to impliment it has been identified and you ***** because you can't carry your precious tube of toothpaste on board. Talk about a selfish attitude. OP doesn't like it so it's a stupid idea. Ride a freaking train if it bothers you that much.
If that's the case, AWM, why can't they screen the carry-on bags the same way they do for checked bags? They're already running them through an x-ray machine.
it would take too long and inconvience people like OP
Because that machine is somewhere in the bowels of the airport (nowhere near the customer check-in) and it would add HOURS to check-in if every single person had to surrender their carry on bags to have the machine sniff it.
Which kinda is my point. Airports are notorious for losing luggage and since I am a travler who rarely checks my bags, it not only annoys me that I have to but it scares me that when I get off the plane at my destination I won't have any of my stuff.
And, we're not just talking about toothpaste. I have a make-up bag, already packed with full size shampoo, conditioner, gel, toothpaste, deoderant, etc. That's a lot of stuff that now has to be checked. And now I have to waste time dealing with baggage claim.
so frikkin' what?? boo frikkin hoo....you can't carry your toiletries on a plane...it is a plane ride for crying out loud...read a book, a newspaper or take a nap...why do people think that the inside of the plane is equivalent to their bedroom?? almost all plane flights (save the ones AWM take) are less than three hours...can't American's make it without putting on make up, sucking down a Starbucks or yacking on the phone for three frikkin' hours? Pathetic.Originally Posted by Valerie
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notorious?? I have probably flown over 250 times in my life...cannot get to any where from Buffalo without a connection...probably made it through 700 take offs and landings in my life...never lost one bag of luggage...even when our bag was "lost" in Kiev, Ukraine it was eventually found (in less than 24 hours) and made it's way to where we were staying in Donetsk.Originally Posted by Valerie
It sucks but unfortunately we live in a world where people think it's their religious duty to try and kill us. Until we evolve into the kind of world that Star Trek portrayed (world peace), this is just the way things are going to be.
i flew in July and American Airlines lost my luggage, they had it at my door step 7 hours later. It wasn't a big deal, and I went to the store and bought myself some cool clothes just in case it didn't arrive in time.
if that's not the glass half full I don't know what is.
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well why does the machine have to be in the "bowels" of the airport? Why can't they build the equipment into the x-ray machines?Originally Posted by ArcticWildMan
We're so afraid of these guys that we're banning TOOTHPASTE and that doesn't bother you? We're a deodorant ban away from being France.