He probably didn't do enough to get the job, but considering they lost a game that didn't really matter, I can live with an int and 2 fumbles.
Even starting qb's throw ints, but what stuck out from jp was after the int, he came back and threw for a TD. It was important than he was able to come back and he didn't lose it mentally.
As far as the fumbles are concerned, I wouldn't feel so bad knowing we have the king of qb fumbles in our own division-culpepper.
3 TO's in limited playing time is disturbing. This team cannot afford to beat itself, and TO's are the best way to do that.
Yeah, everyone has bad games, but I have to wonder why everyone gets so excited about a good preseason performance against Carolina, then completely dismisses a bad preseason performance against Cincy because "it's only preseason."
They way I see it, JP has looked terrible against other teams' starting D's and that's very disturbing, preseason or not.
fumble problems are usually easy to correct once attention is paid to it
consistently hitting long balls is much harder to teach
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He is gaining more poise in the pocket. He is improving, although he has a lot of work to do yet.
You have to remember that, until last week, he was splitting reps in practice with Holcomb. Give the kid time. It's his make-or-break season, and you'd better believe he knows that.
It completely frustrates me that it's always one step forward- two steps backwards with JP.
He does some really good things against Carolina to make me think he might finally be getting it, then he follows it up by looking just like he did against Atlanta and TB early last season. Dammit.
Only the coaches and JP and Reed know what happened on that pick. I watched the replay on tape this morning and Josh looked confused ...like he didn't know which way to make his cutNot saying it was Josh's fault but interceptions are rarely all the fault of the QB
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I wouldn't call how he played Friday terrible.
People not being able to see he has improved, is what is disturbing to me.
Rome wasn't built in a day, and if 2 fumbles are what has everybody up in arms, I'm happy. He has shown zero problems with this in the past, so I'd say it was an aberration, not a trend.
The INT has been discussed ad nauseum, so I'm not even going to go there.
The one thing I watched for was how he'd bounce back after a bad play. Last season it seemed he'd go into the tank, never to be found again. On Friday he came back and atoned for his mistake, which was very encouraging.
Try not to disect every play, and look at things rationally.
There were some things to be positive about.
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Both JP and Jauron commented in their post game interviews that it was JP's fault. I haven't heard anything from Reed.Only the coaches and JP and Reed know what happened on that pick. I watched the replay on tape this morning and Josh looked confused ...like he didn't know which way to make his cut
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Agreed.The one thing I watched for was how he'd bounce back after a bad play. Last season it seemed he'd go into the tank, never to be found again. On Friday he came back and atoned for his mistake, which was very encouraging.
Ok...thanks,...I hadn't heard that
im really not concerned with that one pick. young qbs are usually int machines and jp did pretty well at that even last season so i would expect him to be even better at avoiding them this year
if you recall, jimbo was throwing too many picks when he first got here, and that was after playing so well in the usfl. but you will also recall that tossing a pick seemed to make jimbo play even better. if theres one thing i loved about jp friday was every time he made a mistake he seemed to come back stronger. you just cant teach that kind of swagger and to show it now is a great sign
also, considering he hovered around 50% most of last season im thrilled that so far hes up in the 60s. if that holds during the reg season he will be more than adequate as a starter, and if he can do both that and keep completing the long balls he could be a huge surprise
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It's also been mentioned that JP is NOT scrambling. I think once he adds that back into his arsenal, he'll be a MUCH better player.
Listen up, here is the bottom line.....
4-12 or 5-11, brace for it.
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No way the Bills will be worse than last year. They will AT LEAST be 6-10 if for no other reason than their schedule is better/the AFC East is getting worse. Beyond that I think their defense will be MUCH improved, ST's will still be killer, and the running game will work a lot better.
How is the AFC getting worse??? You're Saying the Bills will be better then last year. Do you think the Pats and Fins will be worse??
Yes. The Pats have lost good coaches and players over the past 2 years, to the point that they are no longer the same dominant team they once were.
The Dols look to me to be JUST like the Bills were in 2004, i.e. a strong finish with a rookie head coach and thinks looking bright, then the following year hits. I think the O-line will be worse, Culpepper IMHO still has a lot to prove in that his performance last year BEFORE getting hurt was an aberration and not what he looks like without Moss, Linehan, and Birk, and the defense is REALLY old.
Already I can tell that the Bills' rush defense will be much-improved and that their offense will be as well. I know that's not saying a whole lot, but again the idea is IMPROVEMENT over last year.
So the Bills do little to improve have a whole new scheme on both sides of the ball no clear front runner at QB and the worst Oline in the division and they will get better, but the Fins will be worse?? I should have asked you what you want to happen not what you think will happen because you're living in some kinda dream world.
Already you can tell your run Defense will be much better?? From two preseason games?? JP has three turnovers by himself and it's ok it's only preseason, but your D is better because they are playing two or three series in two preseason games?? Dude, just stop it. Why don't you wait till week five in the regular season to make judgements of your team, because right now everything you see means nothing.
Okay ftp, the Dolphins got worse in this manner:
-They lost Ricky Williams, who was half their running game last year. The HOPE is that Ronnie Brown can pickup the slack, but that remains to be seen, and the depth is nowhere NEAR as good as it was without Ricky.
-They lost OC Scott Linehan, who was a great OC. That alone is a huge downgrade.
-To replace Linehan, they picked-up Mike Mularkey. As much of a downgrade as losing Linehan was, this was as big of one by his addition to the team. You'll see what I mean when the real season starts.
-Bennie Anderson is your starting RG. With Seth McKinney, who WOULD have been the starting RG, out with an injury, BA gets the start and is SURE to delight you with penalties and sacks galore, just like last night.
-Your QB situation is no better than the Bills'. While again the HOPE is that Culpepper will return to pre-2005 form, there's no evidence he WILL. He doesn't have Moss to throw to, Linehan to coordinate him, or Birk to protect him. Plus he's got the gimpy knee to boot.
-The Dols' defense is OLD. And they just got older with them adding Big Daddy, demoting Matt Roth to backup behind David Bowens, and Manny Wright being a bust.
And remember that the Bills were SIX seconds away from sweeping the Dolphins, if not for some god-awful play-calling by Mularkey, who was the OC after the first 4 games of the season last year. The Bills also were close to beating the Pats in the first game. Again this was ALL with a crap coaching staff and cancers on the team in the form of Adams and Moulds (who quit on the team in the Miami game).
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Ricky was a loss, but it's not a huge loss. We have good depth at the RB position. Infact we aren't going to sign anyone because we have what we need at the RB position.-They lost Ricky Williams, who was half their running game last year. The HOPE is that Ronnie Brown can pickup the slack, but that remains to be seen, and the depth is nowhere NEAR as good as it was without Ricky.
Scott Linehan was a good OC, but so is MM. We have a ton of talent on O and will be better this year.-They lost OC Scott Linehan, who was a great OC. That alone is a huge downgrade.
Typical Bill fan, always trashing players and coaches that leave, especially when they end up playing or coaching with a division rival. MM was only a Bill for a short time and at this point last year you Bill fans didn't have one bad word for MM, but the Bill last year lose a bunch of talent and have a few key injuries and it's all MM fault......sure! MM isn't the Bills OC with JP as his QB, MM is in Miami with Culpepper, Chambers, McMichael and Brown, big difference in talent.-To replace Linehan, they picked-up Mike Mularkey. As much of a downgrade as losing Linehan was, this was as big of one by his addition to the team. You'll see what I mean when the real season starts.
No he's not! But if you knew a damn thing about the Dolphins you'd know that. If Anderson does earn the spot, then he earned it. We have the best Oline coach in all of football we will have one of the better Olines in football this year no matter who starts at guard.-Bennie Anderson is your starting RG. With Seth McKinney, who WOULD have been the starting RG, out with an injury, BA gets the start and is SURE to delight you with penalties and sacks galore, just like last night.
Wow... that has to be the dumbest statement I've read in a while. Culpepper, Harrington and Lemon are no better then Holcomb, Losman and Nall??? Wake up man, you are seriously in some kinda dream world.-Your QB situation is no better than the Bills'. While again the HOPE is that Culpepper will return to pre-2005 form, there's no evidence he WILL. He doesn't have Moss to throw to, Linehan to coordinate him, or Birk to protect him. Plus he's got the gimpy knee to boot.
-The Dols' defense is OLD. And they just got older with them adding Big Daddy, demoting Matt Roth to backup behind David Bowens, and with Manny Wright being a bust.
Funny how MM only gets credit from you when you lose, no credit to MM when you win. Why?? Because you can't trash him if you give him credit. You're pathetic, stop posting if you can't post like an adult who understands the game. Everything you post is bias.And remember that the Bills were SIX seconds away from sweeping the Dolphins, if not for some god-awful play-calling by Mularkey, who was the OC after the first 4 games of the season last year. The Bills also were close to beating the Pats in the first game. Again this was ALL with a crap coaching staff and cancers on the team in the form of Adams and Moulds (who quit on the team in the Miami game).
LOL! So you have "good backups" behind Brown, much less as good as Ricky? Get a clue, man! That's got to be THE dumbest statement I've heard yet. I think even most Dols fans would agree with me on THAT one.
And even if you DO think Mularkey was a good OC, he's not nearly as good as Linehan. So at best you STILL downgraded at OC, and at worst downgraded a LOT. Again I think if you polled non-Bills or Dols fans, you'd find that concensus. And because of TD (another guy I'm glad the Bills got rid of now that we know more of the story), the Bills were tight-lipped about everything. We didn't know until AFTER the season that Mularkey took over play-calling duties after the 4th game of the season, so the Bills' offensive ineptitude did NOT improve with Mularkey calling the plays. And it's hard to give him credit for the wins when the Bills RARELY won, and rarely because of him.
As for Anderson, he started last night, didn't he? Who you got behind him and is he any better? Again most of the sacks and penalties came from HIM.
Finally WRT your QB situation, outside of Culpepper, your QB's are worthless. And AGAIN Culpepper will need to prove that last year's horrendous performance was an aberration and NOT how he truly is without Moss, Linehan, and Birk. And that's on TOP of having his gimpy knee, which will be a target of opposing defense this year (he's a sack magnet as it is). And before you get all orgasmic over his performance last night, chew on this: last pre-season he went 36 of 44 (82%) for 520 yards a TD and an INT and proceeded to stink-it-up during the regular season.
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