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[PECKERWOOD]

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No he doesnt have the personnell at WR, just because your fast, doesnt mean your a good deep threat WR (in reference to BF comments)

We lack a possession WR, a slot WR, a true #2, a size WR. We have guys who could maybe do it (though only Parrish comes to mind as a slot guy) but nobody who has emerged. Fairchild will need what amounts to 2 #1 WR's. Like he did in STL with Holt and Bruce. We have Evans, but nobody else to run his vertical attack which only works if you have two consistent deep threats, so you can split the safeties and create a cushion between them and the LB's in a zone coverage scheme. Go deep to keep the safeties honest and the abuse the middle on crossing routes. Thats all depending on having a QB who can deliver the ball on time, with the right read, and the right touch. Which is another whole argument in itself.

St. Louis has never had a killer OL, its more based on the WR and the QB reads. Granted they never had quite as crappy an oline as we have.

No he doesnt have the personnell at WR, just because your fast, doesnt mean your a good deep threat WR (in reference to BF comments)

Evans, Parrish and Price have all proved to be legit deep threats. We DO have the personnel to go deep, atleast at WR, anyways.

[DraftBoy]

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Evans, Parrish and Price have all proved to be legit deep threats. We DO have the personnel to go deep, atleast at WR, anyways.

Since when did Parrish or Price prove to be legit deep threats? Parrish could emerge into one, but Price was once one, but not anytime recently. Parrish at this moment however is not a legit deep threat.

[The_Philster]

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Evans, Parrish and Price have all proved to be legit deep threats. We DO have the personnel to go deep, atleast at WR, anyways.

actually, we don't....not completely. I see what Draftboy is saying, I think. If you want pure deep threats, sure...Evans, Parrish, and Peerless fit the bill...but a deep threat offense won't succeed without some solid underneath WRs as well...someone who can make the tough catches in traffic...and won't break if a LB hits him...someone like #84 of our next opponent

[Mr. Pink]

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Andre Davis is also a proven deep threat....hell his last year in cleveland he caught a 99 yard TD pass from Jeff Garcia, that Garcia threw 50 yards in the air. By the way, the Browns o-line wasn't any better 3 years ago than the Bills now.

[PECKERWOOD]

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Since when did Parrish or Price prove to be legit deep threats? Parrish could emerge into one, but Price was once one, but not anytime recently. Parrish at this moment however is not a legit deep threat.

Parrish has made two 50+ yard TD catches, pretty legit if you ask me. Price, was once one, so why not give him a shot at going out deep again? He flourished in the past as a deep threat..

[PECKERWOOD]

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Andre Davis is also a proven deep threat....hell his last year in cleveland he caught a 99 yard TD pass from Jeff Garcia, that Garcia threw 50 yards in the air. By the way, the Browns o-line wasn't any better 3 years ago than the Bills now.

Good example. It really just boils down to conservative game calling, not to bash on anyone elses opinion. Just my take on it..

[DraftBoy]

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Parrish has made two 50+ yard TD catches, pretty legit if you ask me. Price, was once one, so why not give him a shot at going out deep again? He flourished in the past as a deep threat..

two catches do not make you a deep threat and I believe atleast one of those was a short pass he made a long run on. You could probably ask Atlanta and Dallas as to why not to give him a shot at going deep again....Or our coaches who Im sure have looked into it. I think your still hung up on this speed makes deep threat thing. There is alot more like; route running, break tackle ability, and jumping ability. Not to begin to mention knowing your QB, reading coverages, changing routes and much more. Speed means very little in the long run.

[PECKERWOOD]

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two catches do not make you a deep threat and I believe atleast one of those was a short pass he made a long run on. You could probably ask Atlanta and Dallas as to why not to give him a shot at going deep again....Or our coaches who Im sure have looked into it. I think your still hung up on this speed makes deep threat thing. There is alot more like; route running, break tackle ability, and jumping ability. Not to begin to mention knowing your QB, reading coverages, changing routes and much more. Speed means very little in the long run.

two catches do not make you a deep threat and I believe atleast one of those was a short pass he made a long run on.

Your right, one catch was a short pass. The other one was a bomb. Even with all that said, Parrish has played only in limited action. He has been a legit deep threat for us this year, he is averaging 16.0 yards per catch, if that isnt a deep threat, I'm afraid I do not know what a deep threat is..

Not to begin to mention knowing your QB, reading coverages, changing routes and much more. Speed means very little in the long run.

How are these guys going to get to know JP if they dont let him pass? As far as reading coverage and changing routes, they should be studying film all week long. I agree that speed isnt the only factor, but it is very important. The quicker you can get down field, the easier it is for your OL and QB to hold up against the pass rush.

In the end, my point is simple.. There is no reason why we should keep doing these stupid, dink and dunk type of throws. We need to throw the ball down field more. I think once we can start doing that effectively, everything else will fall into place.