Blackout, moving the team, etc.

[Michael82]

Re: Blackout, moving the team, etc.

70,000 + fans is not a "lull"

The NFL should change the defintion of "Sell-Out" to the avg capacity of every NFL stadium.

[Historian]

Re: Blackout, moving the team, etc.

70,000 + fans is not a "lull"

The NFL should change the defintion of "Sell-Out" to the avg capacity of every NFL stadium.

I would be interested to know what that number is exactly.

(I'm too lazy to look it up.)

[RockStar36]

Re: Blackout, moving the team, etc.

I think they should base the blackout on the stadium with the smallest capacity. Seems to me like the Bills are being punished for having a big stadium.

[raphael120]

Re: Blackout, moving the team, etc.

70,000 + fans is not a "lull"

The NFL should change the defintion of "Sell-Out" to the avg capacity of every NFL stadium.

its the same concept for the revenue sharing, we get boned both ways.

we have more seats and more fans coming out than more teams and we get penalized

we make less money and have to contribute the same as the big teams to the revenue pool.

so not only do the bills draw more fans, we get blacked out, and all our revenue taken

[RockStar36]

Re: Blackout, moving the team, etc.

One question, are tickets to Bills games cheaper than other NFL games?

[G. Host]

Re: Blackout, moving the team, etc.

They need to build a smaller stadium so it is full all of the time!

I do not think the drunk sections (i.e. Rockpile section) add to game.

Better to have MORE "reserved" seat boxes even if they charge a minimal amount. I'd like the Bills to make more and more seats "reserved" (which other teams do not get revenue from).

Maybe even add some partial roofs.

[G. Host]

Re: Blackout, moving the team, etc.

One question, are tickets to Bills games cheaper than other NFL games?

Significantly less in many cases yes.

[Historian]

Re: Blackout, moving the team, etc.

Significantly less in many cases yes.

So are their operating expenses though.

Everything's relevent.

[HHURRICANE]

Re: Blackout, moving the team, etc.

[quote=TheGhostofJimKelly]I am looking at the attendance figures from last week and this is how it was:

1. Philadelphia 36, N.Y. Giants 22 - 78,657
2. Pittsburgh 37, Carolina 3 - 73,798
3. Dallas 38, Atlanta 28 - 71,102
4. Buffalo 21, Miami 0 - 71,011
5. Baltimore 27, Cleveland 17 - 70,857
6. Green Bay 17, Detroit 9 - 70,472
7. Tennessee 24, Jacksonville 17 - 69,143
8. Washington 16, New Orleans 10 - 69,052
9. New England 40, Houston 7 - 68,756
10. San Francisco 24, Seattle 14 - 67,650
11. San Diego 20, Kansas City 9 - 66,583
12. Denver 37, Arizona 20 - 63,845
13. N.Y. Jets 26, Minnesota 13 - 63,677
14. Chicago 34, Tampa Bay 31 (OT) - 62,260
15. Cincinnati at Indianapolis - 57,292
16. St. Louis 20, Oakland 0 - 50,164



I heard somewhere that the Cardinals were allowed by the NFL to put tarps over some of there seats to beat the blackout rule. Why are we so screwed?!!

[Bill Brasky]

Re: Blackout, moving the team, etc.

Just got off the phone with the KC, OAK, JAX, and BUF box offices.

Seems that tickets weren't sold this weekend cuz everybody is too busy moving to Tulsa.

[Typ0]

Re: Blackout, moving the team, etc.

downsize the number of seats, Increase luxury boxes, raise ticket prices to the NFL average, sell naming rights. We do that and the Bills will stay AND the NFL will be more willing to help.

NONE of that is going to happen until ralph wilson is no longer owner. Many still need to accept that fact.

the problem is we don't have the corporate base to support the luxury boxes or purchase the naming rights. I'm sure there are companies out there that would pay 100K for naming rights...but that would be stupid and drive down the market value of the naming rights...and there is no one that can or will pay the value of the rights. Same for the luxury boxes.

[ddaryl]

Re: Blackout, moving the team, etc.

I am looking at the attendance figures from last week and this is how it was:

1. Philadelphia 36, N.Y. Giants 22 - 78,657
2. Pittsburgh 37, Carolina 3 - 73,798
3. Dallas 38, Atlanta 28 - 71,102
4. Buffalo 21, Miami 0 - 71,011
5. Baltimore 27, Cleveland 17 - 70,857
6. Green Bay 17, Detroit 9 - 70,472
7. Tennessee 24, Jacksonville 17 - 69,143
8. Washington 16, New Orleans 10 - 69,052
9. New England 40, Houston 7 - 68,756
10. San Francisco 24, Seattle 14 - 67,650
11. San Diego 20, Kansas City 9 - 66,583
12. Denver 37, Arizona 20 - 63,845
13. N.Y. Jets 26, Minnesota 13 - 63,677
14. Chicago 34, Tampa Bay 31 (OT) - 62,260
15. Cincinnati at Indianapolis - 57,292
16. St. Louis 20, Oakland 0 - 50,164


You can tell me all you want about this team moving, I think the NFL needs Buffalo more than Buffalo needs the NFL.

Blackout rule stinks.

However whaen you figure in the revenue produced by luxury boxes, and then factor in the ticket prices in buffalo in comparison, the Bills just do not bring i nthe dough ray me like big market clubs, and that's where our problem lies.

[Typ0]

Re: Blackout, moving the team, etc.

[QUOTE=HHURRICANE]

I am looking at the attendance figures from last week and this is how it was:

1. Philadelphia 36, N.Y. Giants 22 - 78,657
2. Pittsburgh 37, Carolina 3 - 73,798
3. Dallas 38, Atlanta 28 - 71,102
4. Buffalo 21, Miami 0 - 71,011
5. Baltimore 27, Cleveland 17 - 70,857
6. Green Bay 17, Detroit 9 - 70,472
7. Tennessee 24, Jacksonville 17 - 69,143
8. Washington 16, New Orleans 10 - 69,052
9. New England 40, Houston 7 - 68,756
10. San Francisco 24, Seattle 14 - 67,650
11. San Diego 20, Kansas City 9 - 66,583
12. Denver 37, Arizona 20 - 63,845
13. N.Y. Jets 26, Minnesota 13 - 63,677
14. Chicago 34, Tampa Bay 31 (OT) - 62,260
15. Cincinnati at Indianapolis - 57,292
16. St. Louis 20, Oakland 0 - 50,164



I heard somewhere that the Cardinals were allowed by the NFL to put tarps over some of there seats to beat the blackout rule. Why are we so screwed?!!

I guess it just goes over everyone's heads that it's the Bills who want the blackout not the NFL.

[jamze132]

Re: Blackout, moving the team, etc.

Here is a thought.

Instead of coming up with $400 - $600 mil for a new stadium, why not just seriously renovate the Ralph and add a retractable roof? It would then make the stadium a multi-purpose venue for just about anything they could put inside a dome. It would be at least half as cheap as actually building another stadium and since the NFL just gave $300 mil to the Giants / Jets, we shouldn't have much of a problem getting $150 mil from them as well as the tax payers of New York. This may keep the Bills in Buffalo. And it wouldn't be that expensive considering the cost of new stadiums.

[Typ0]

Re: Blackout, moving the team, etc.

Here is a thought.

Instead of coming up with $400 - $600 mil for a new stadium, why not just seriously renovate the Ralph and add a retractable roof? It would then make the stadium a multi-purpose venue for just about anything they could put inside a dome. It would be at least half as cheap as actually building another stadium and since the NFL just gave $300 mil to the Giants / Jets, we shouldn't have much of a problem getting $150 mil from them as well as the tax payers of New York. This may keep the Bills in Buffalo. And it wouldn't be that expensive considering the cost of new stadiums.

the orchard park community does not want any more events held there and they have shut them all down. the stadium does not belong in orchard park.