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  • Tatonka
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 21289

    Ingtar, lets talk safety...

    why is it that Doss's stock is dropping? what did you think of him.

    what cover safeties did you see at the combine that really stick out to you? i assume we need a true cover safety and not a run stuffer like the kid from USC right?
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  • BADTHINGSMAN
    Registered User
    • Oct 2002
    • 10504

    #2
    Im not Ingtar, but I thought Doss was a pretty good safety at Ohio State. Was womdering that myself.

    I think his name is Gamble not sure. But he played WR/CB for the Buckeyes. Showed good strengths at both could be a second rounder.

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    • SoCalBillsFan
      Expert on Experts
      • Jul 2002
      • 2879

      #3
      gamble is not coming out in the draft yet. He is going to be a junior at ohio state I believe.

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      • venis2k1
        Youboty can hope
        • Jul 2002
        • 4621

        #4
        are we going for an all Ohio State secondary????

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        • The_Philster
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 52180

          #5
          Sounds like a good idea to me
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          • Earthquake Enyart
            Legendary Zoner
            • Jul 2002
            • 27521

            #6
            Both those Notre Dame safeties were pretty good too. I think both were seniors??

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            • Ingtar33
              Dances With Buffaloes
              • Sep 2002
              • 15466

              #7
              hmmm, Doss is dropping because most are concerned about two things... one, his height (5'10") is a little small for either FS or SS... Two, he's not a very good cover guy, and NFL teams simply wouldn't draft a SS with coverage problems this early.

              Furthermore Doss is dropping because so many other players (at other positions) are rising, and he didn't give anyone anything to talk about.

              The no.1 FS in this upcoming draft will probably be R. Mathis... he was the no.2 FS on most boards but moved up mainly because he ran the fastest 40 time of the lot. He is now likely to be drafted anywhere from the late first round to the late second. In my post combine review I mentioned Mathis as the possible FS the Bills will make their first pick, now its looking more likely that he wouldn't be on the board when the Bills pick...

              If we get the 23rd pick form atl, we could trade down and pick him up around 28-37 (where he really should go), or keep it and get Doss (he should still be on the board), moving him to FS… a position I think he might be able to play with a little seasoning.
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              • Earthquake Enyart
                Legendary Zoner
                • Jul 2002
                • 27521

                #8
                Didn't Doss run a crappy 40 at the combine, too?

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                • Ingtar33
                  Dances With Buffaloes
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 15466

                  #9
                  Mike Doss didn't do any workouts at the combine (just a physical& interview)... neither did any of the other top SS. Mathis was about the only one who did the workouts (understandable too because he is a D-1AA player), and really improved his stock with his numbers.
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                  • Tatonka
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 21289

                    #10
                    what other options are out there for a cover FS that they may look at say 3rd - 5th rounds?
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                    • SoCalBillsFan
                      Expert on Experts
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 2879

                      #11
                      hey Ingtar, what have you heard about shane walton (DB from Notre Dame) and his draft status? I haven't heard much about him, despite the fact that he was one of the nation's best this year. What is his status?

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                      • Fatwhite02
                        Colorado's Biggest Bills Fan
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 157

                        #12
                        Troy pamlou(USC)??????? what about him

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                        • Tatonka
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 21289

                          #13
                          the usc safety is much like coy wire.. all hits, no coverage.. he is a true SS, not a FS at all.
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                          • JefftheBillsfan
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 1531

                            #14
                            he's awful in coverage.
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                            • SoCalBillsFan
                              Expert on Experts
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 2879

                              #15
                              Originally posted by JefftheBillsfan
                              he's awful in coverage.
                              he was good in coverage, not anywhere close to awful. He could cover pretty well in college. But at the pro level is isn't gonna be a free safety, he's a hard hitter and a playmaker. Coverage is not his strong point by any means

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