Ronnie Brown not looking too good.

[Bling]

Re: Ronnie Brown not looking too good.

Buffalo's O-line is overrated, though Mudflap.

[FinFaninBuffalo]

Re: Ronnie Brown not looking too good.

Give me an f'n break...

What should be sad for you is that your team hasn't been relevant in the NFL since when? 1984, maybe 1986? And you're wasting your time on a BUFFALO BILLS message board being argumentative and insulting.

Don't play the holier-than-thou card. Your team sucks. Our team sucks too, but the difference is you have a lame duck coach who couldn't win in college and had a stacked team in San Diego, which is the only reason he was the Dolphins' choice (like, sixth choice) to be head coach. You also have a very weak offensive line that got weaker in the offseason as opposed to (likely) stronger for the Bills. That's all. Your defense is good, but aging. Your quarterback used to be good, but will probably come to die in South Florida since he's 37 years old and playing behind a crappy offensive line where you actually have a decent back, but won't be able to effectively establish the running game and he will be throwing for his life and have a heavy pass rush on him all season (due to a crappy offensive line).

But if you think your **** doesn't stink, go ahead and talk smack. We'll see where Miami is at in January. Until then, keep spending your days littering a BUFFALO BILLS message board.

Jon

Are you just trying to start crap?

Lame duck coach? WTF? Do you even know what the term means? Usually its used to signify a coach that is in the last year of his contract with no extension in sight. It usually means that players don't respect him because his is likely gone after the season. This is Cameron's first season. BTW, your coach's record is nothing to brag about.

IMO, the Bills OL was worse than the Fins last season. You keep claiming that the Fins QB will have no protection, but the Bills GAVE UP MORE SACKS LAST SEASON. I provided a link to back up my opinion. You have just talked smack.

I love how the off-season moves by the Bill on the OL automatically make them better but the moves by the Fins make them worse. Do I need to remind you about Tuten Reyes? You should be concerned about your GM's ability to judge OL talent.

BTW:

2006 7-9-0
2005 5-11-0
2004 9-7-0
2003 6-10-0
2002 8-8-0
2001 3-13-0
2000 8-8-0

[PECKERWOOD]

Re: Ronnie Brown not looking too good.

Smack from a Bills fan. Too funny. The Fins were bad last season and so were the Bills. A Bills board is one of the few places that a Fins fan can talk smack.

Get back to me the next time the Bills have a decade that doesn't include more losing seasons than winning seasons. (Hint, it won't be this decade)

Get at me once the Bills sweep the phins two straight seasons in a row.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Re: Ronnie Brown not looking too good.

Buffalo's O-line is overrated, though Mudflap.

How can it be overrated when all people are saying is that it should be improved with a couple free-agent additions? Saying it will be better is not a stretch of the immagination by any means.

[FinFaninBuffalo]

Re: Ronnie Brown not looking too good.

Get at me once the Bills sweep the phins two straight seasons in a row.

Typical Bills fan.

Football fan - "Hey you went 2-14 this year. Doesn't that suck?"

Bills fan - "No, its great. We beat the Fins twice."

BTW. The Fins beat the Fins in the second game in 2005. If you are going to talk smack, at least be accurate.

[mchurchfie]

Re: Ronnie Brown not looking too good.

Both teams O-Lines have A LOT to prove. Neither have been too stellar over the lat few years.

[Mudflap1]

Re: Ronnie Brown not looking too good.

Are you just trying to start crap?

Lame duck coach? WTF? Do you even know what the term means? Usually its used to signify a coach that is in the last year of his contract with no extension in sight. It usually means that players don't respect him because his is likely gone after the season. This is Cameron's first season. BTW, your coach's record is nothing to brag about.

IMO, the Bills OL was worse than the Fins last season. You keep claiming that the Fins QB will have no protection, but the Bills GAVE UP MORE SACKS LAST SEASON. I provided a link to back up my opinion. You have just talked smack.

I love how the off-season moves by the Bill on the OL automatically make them better but the moves by the Fins make them worse. Do I need to remind you about Tuten Reyes? You should be concerned about your GM's ability to judge OL talent.

BTW:

2006 7-9-0
2005 5-11-0
2004 9-7-0
2003 6-10-0
2002 8-8-0
2001 3-13-0
2000 8-8-0

Yes, I'm the one starting crap, because I'm the one that went onto some other team's message board and starting calling out that team's fans and saying they don't know what they are talking about. Genius.

Call Cam Cameron whatever you want. I call him fired within three years, probably sooner. Where has he ever won as a head coach? You can talk smack about Jauron all you want, at least he's got a 13-3 season to hang his hat on.

I never said the Bills offensive line is great. They made some additions where we as fans are cautiously optimistic that they'll be improvements. Dockery was one of the more sought-after free agents. Peters is an up-and-coming LT by most accounts. What has Miami done? Who do they have that's worth bragging about up front?

Once again, you've just got your panties in a bunch because your team hasn't been relevant in the NFL in 20 years. Granted, Buffalo hasn't been tearing it up lately, but I like where they are headed. The whole point here is you (a fan of an NFL irrelevant) has no right to come talk smack and speak as if your word is gospel on another team's message board, when it's arguable that your team is significantly worse off. If I came onto the Dolphins' bath house message board and talked smack about how Buffalo is so superior to Miami in certain areas, I'd expect the same treatment. The only difference is your fans have alternative jerseys that are pink, so frankly we're not that intimidated about all that up here. Frankly, I have no interest in going to www.finbathhouse.com or whatever it's called, just like I don't know why you would have so much interest in coming over to the Billszone. I would think you'd have better things to do with your time, and certainly better things to do than be argumentative and offensive. But I guess that's what Dolphins' fans do, since it sure hasn't been attending the home games for all of these years.

See ya in January Chicken-of-the-Sea...

Jon

[Bling]

Re: Ronnie Brown not looking too good.

Get at me once the Bills sweep the phins two straight seasons in a row.

What are you talking about? The Bills haven't sweeped the Phins two years in a row, so why are you insulting your own team?

[Mudflap1]

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What are you talking about? The Bills haven't sweeped the Phins two years in a row, so why are you insulting your own team?

Get yer heads out of the ham sandwiches down there in Miami. He's saying we're sweeping you again this year, which makes two years in a row!!!

Jon

[Mudflap1]

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By the way, isn't the best test of who has the better offensive line the head-to-head test? Last time I checked you guys really pushed us around last season, really showed us a thing or two. What was the score and the statline of that game in December?

Jon

[ParanoidAndroid]

Re: Ronnie Brown not looking too good.

Give me an f'n break...

What should be sad for you is that your team hasn't been relevant in the NFL since when? 1984, maybe 1986? And you're wasting your time on a BUFFALO BILLS message board being argumentative and insulting.

Don't play the holier-than-thou card. Your team sucks. Our team sucks too, but the difference is you have a lame duck coach who couldn't win in college and had a stacked team in San Diego, which is the only reason he was the Dolphins' choice (like, sixth choice) to be head coach. You also have a very weak offensive line that got weaker in the offseason as opposed to (likely) stronger for the Bills. That's all. Your defense is good, but aging. Your quarterback used to be good, but will probably come to die in South Florida since he's 37 years old and playing behind a crappy offensive line where you actually have a decent back, but won't be able to effectively establish the running game and he will be throwing for his life and have a heavy pass rush on him all season (due to a crappy offensive line).

But if you think your **** doesn't stink, go ahead and talk smack. We'll see where Miami is at in January. Until then, keep spending your days littering a BUFFALO BILLS message board.

Jon

I wouldn't take the debate back in history, Mudflap.....you'll lose. If you keep it in the here and now, the Bills are likely the better team.

[FinFaninBuffalo]

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Yes, I'm the one starting crap, because I'm the one that went onto some other team's message board and starting calling out that team's fans and saying they don't know what they are talking about. Genius.

Get a grip. I merely pointed out that the Fins OL gave up fewer sacks and led their top RB to a higher YPC average than the Bills OL last season. Those are facts. Just because you don't like them, doesn't make them untrue.

Call Cam Cameron whatever you want. I call him fired within three years, probably sooner. Where has he ever won as a head coach? You can talk smack about Jauron all you want, at least he's got a 13-3 season to hang his hat on.

One 13-3 season to go with 6-10, 5-11, 4-12, and two 7-9 seasons. Impressive.

I never said the Bills offensive line is great. They made some additions where we as fans are cautiously optimistic that they'll be improvements. Dockery was one of the more sought-after free agents. Peters is an up-and-coming LT by most accounts. What has Miami done? Who do they have that's worth bragging about up front?

I didn't same the Fins OL was great either. I said both have a lot to prove.

Once again, you've just got your panties in a bunch because your team hasn't been relevant in the NFL in 20 years. Granted, Buffalo hasn't been tearing it up lately, but I like where they are headed. The whole point here is you (a fan of an NFL irrelevant) has no right to come talk smack and speak as if your word is gospel on another team's message board, when it's arguable that your team is significantly worse off. If I came onto the Dolphins' bath house message board and talked smack about how Buffalo is so superior to Miami in certain areas, I'd expect the same treatment. The only difference is your fans have alternative jerseys that are pink, so frankly we're not that intimidated about all that up here. Frankly, I have no interest in going to www.finbathhouse.com or whatever it's called, just like I don't know why you would have so much interest in coming over to the Billszone. I would think you'd have better things to do with your time, and certainly better things to do than be argumentative and offensive. But I guess that's what Dolphins' fans do, since it sure hasn't been attending the home games for all of these years.

See ya in January Chicken-of-the-Sea...

Jon

Complete jibberish. I'll just leave you to your fantasy land. What the hell does being relevant in the NFL mean? The Fins have been to the playoffs more recently than the Bills have.

Both the Fins and the Bills are likely to be golfing in January.

[FinFaninBuffalo]

Re: Ronnie Brown not looking too good.

Get yer heads out of the ham sandwiches down there in Miami. He's saying we're sweeping you again this year, which makes two years in a row!!!

Jon

Ummm. No.

He was clearly mistaken. Nice try though.

[Mudflap1]

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Their offensive line was better than the Bills OL last season. Fewer sacks, better YPC by the RBs. Glass houses, glass houses......

Here is your original quote. If you're argument is Ronnie Brown is better than Willis McGahee, fine, I'll actually agree with that. But it's not. We got rid of the trash and brought in better players like Dockery, Peters at LT, Lynch instead of McGahee, etc. What has Miami done again? Vernon Carey and L.J. Shelton are your two stars? And you're talking smack?

How many times has Cam Cameron won 13 games in a season? How about 10? How about a winning record?

Miami not being relevant in 20 years is not important? It means your organization can't run a team better than an also ran. I would say that's cause for concern. Granted, you could say the same about the Bills. Buffalo has a lot to prove, but I like where they are heading, and at least they have a proven winner running the ship.

And we'll see who pushes who around when the teams meet this season. That should adquately settle the debate (yet again).

Jon

[duhbilz]

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Here is your original quote. If you're argument is Ronnie Brown is better than Willis McGahee, fine, I'll actually agree with that. But it's not. We got rid of the trash and brought in better players like Dockery, Peters at LT, Lynch instead of McGahee, etc. What has Miami done again? Vernon Carey and L.J. Shelton are your two stars? And you're talking smack?

How many times has Cam Cameron won 13 games in a season? How about 10? How about a winning record?

Miami not being relevant in 20 years is not important? It means your organization can't run a team better than an also ran. I would say that's cause for concern. Granted, you could say the same about the Bills. Buffalo has a lot to prove, but I like where they are heading, and at least they have a proven winner running the ship.

And we'll see who pushes who around when the teams meet this season. That should adquately settle the debate (yet again).

Jon

What about Rex Hadnot and Samson Satele? I'm not trying to get into your argument here, but both lines appear to have moved some players around and added some players. At this point neither line has proven anything. All we can do is wait and see, a pissing match proves nothing.