NFL investigating spying by the patriots

[Michael82]

Re: Even more BB cheated info

Turns out this isnt the first time the Pats doing this has come to light. Last year our players/coaches used game tape whith audio from the normal telivision feed instead fo the muted game tapes to prepare for the Pats and try and figure out there line call. IMO not a big deal but it sparded a storm and the league looked into it. This came out as a result.
And remember this is in 06

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/2006/12/stealing_signs_.html

Over the offeseason all 32 teams were warned on this subject so there is no shades of gray here on whether the pats thought this was legal or not.

Then comes this

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/2007/09/12/2007-09-12_eric_mangini_exposes_bill_belichicks_spy.html

If the reason Mangini knew about this was because they were doing it while he was still there then we know the pats used this method to steal at least 1 SB vs Philly as 05 was the last year Mangini was with the Pats.

Wow.....I was wondering how far back it goes. If Mangini knew about it from when he was there, it means that the Patriots have been cheating for all this time and won a Super Bowl ring and got to the playoffs with it. I hope they lose both 1st rounders, plus have to forfeit the week 1 win, plus have that slimeball Bill Belichick suspended for 2-4 games.

[Michael82]

Re: Even more BB cheated info

Does this have the legs to become a "real" scandal? I mean suspensions, kicking guys out of the league, overturning victories, etc??? That is what happens in the NCAA...

and if it continues to leak more info out....we finally have a commish that won't bury this under the rug. I know that he will definitely punish the Patriots and most likely Bill Belichick. I just wonder how far he will go......

[Ebenezer]

Re: Even more BB cheated info

Wow.....I was wondering how far back it goes. If Mangini knew about it from when he was there, it means that the Patriots have been cheating for all this time and won a Super Bowl ring and got to the playoffs with it. I hope they lose both 1st rounders, plus have to forfeit the week 1 win, plus have that slimeball Bill Belichick suspended for 2-4 games.

If Mangini knew about it then he is just as guilty....should there be sanctions against him??

[trapezeus]

Re: Even more BB cheated info

If Mangini knew about it then he is just as guilty....should there be sanctions against him??

in some ways, mangini becomes like a state witness. Everyone knows he's guilty, but you allow it to get the bigger fish.

[mybills]

Re: Even more BB cheated info

If Mangini knew about it then he is just as guilty....should there be sanctions against him??

Not sure, but I heard it means he broke some confidentiality clause with NE.

[dplus47]

Re: NE News week of 9/10 - Sources: Goodell going to issue "severe" penalties to Patr

I think that everyone here is losing sight of just how big a punishment of losing draft picks is to a franchise especially one like NE which has built its success through the draft. We know that just signing FA's (Redskins) wont work so for New England to be stripped of multiple picks could have bigger ramifications than a 4 game suspension which Im sure the Patriot organization would gladly take over losing picks.

in the NBA, the minnesota timberwolves had 5 first round picks taken from them for tampering with joe smith. this isn't the NBA, but it's a far worse crime than tampering, especially if it comes to light that they were illegally talking to brady and/or defensive players during plays, etc.

[Gunzlingr]

Re: Even more BB cheated info

If Mangini knew about it then he is just as guilty....should there be sanctions against him??

The guys on NFL radio made it sound like Mangina knew all about it from his days as a pat.

[Gunzlingr]

Re: Even more BB cheated info

Not sure, but I heard it means he broke some confidentiality clause with NE.

I heard it was more of a good ole boys code sort of thing.

[SABURZFAN]

Re: Even more BB cheated info

Bellycheck would be gone had he not won the Super Bowls.i hope Goddell sticks it to Bellycheck whether it be a hefty fine,a lengthy suspension with no pay,or both.after listening to Mike & Mike in the Morning,it sounds as if ALL teams were warned not to do this.therefore,i hope he gets both and the Pats get a draft pick or two taken.

[Mitchy moo]

BUSTED!!!!!!!!!!!!! Belichick apologizes

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. (AP) - This videotape needs no interpretation: New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick walked out of his news conference on Wednesday when pressed repeatedly about the sideline spying scandal that landed him on NFL commissioner Roger Goodell's crowded docket.

Ten minutes before his regular availability, Belichick issued a one-paragraph statement apologizing to his team and confirming that he has spoken to Goodell about an "interpretation" of league rules that ban videotaping of the opposing sideline.

"Although it remains a league matter, I want to apologize to everyone who has been affected, most of all ownership, staff and players," Belichick said. "Following the league's decision, I will have further comment." It was not clear whether Belichick was apologizing for his actions or the distraction it has caused his team as it prepares for Sunday night's marquee game against San Diego. But if he thought — or even hoped — that the standing-room crowd of media was there to talk about the Chargers, he failed to prepare in the manner that has made him one of the most successful coaches in the history of the league.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7216386

[Ebenezer]

Re: BUSTED!!!!!!!!!!!!! Belichick apologizes

I have no problem with a year long suspension....

[Mitchy moo]

Re: BUSTED!!!!!!!!!!!!! Belichick apologizes

I have no problem with a year long suspension....

Goddell's probable response: Cheating is not something that needs to be taken lightly but since it's Kraft's boy let's cut him some cheese, I mean slack.

[Mitchy moo]

Re: BUSTED!!!!!!!!!!!!! Belichick apologizes

Who in their right mind would move this?? NE39?

[shelby]

Re: Belichick speaks with Goodell, apologizes

i'm sure his hand is stinging from a slap on the wrist

[CuseJetsFan83]

Re: BUSTED!!!!!!!!!!!!! Belichick apologizes

Who in their right mind would move this?? NE39?

its not directly related to the bills, but it is NFL related, hence its here