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    John Clayton just said....

    that if Edwards continues to play well, it could put the Bills in a position to trade JP Losman for draft choices.

    If Edwards plays well, there is no way in hell Losman stays. Given the number of teams that have QB problems at the moment, I'm sure we could find a trading partner.

    The Bills already have a ton of picks in the upcoming draft- IF this does happen (I'm not saying it will), I really hope they make a big draft day trade and get a true playmaker like Dorsey.

    Of course, if it doesn't happen, it means Trent Edwards didn't play well and we may already be in the Dorsey sweepstakes.

    Sorry for the "stream of consciousness" nature of this post- I just saw it on TV and I was processing it in my mind as I was writing.

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    Re: John Clayton just said....

    We traded our second away in the Poz move up right?

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    Re: John Clayton just said....

    Quote Originally Posted by slimschmittie
    We traded our second away in the Poz move up right?
    I don't think so... but maybe?

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    Re: John Clayton just said....

    The thing I didn't like about Clayton's time on WGR today is that he lacks logic. He says he believes Trent Edwards can play in the NFL, but by not playing JP, we've devalued him. Clayton believes that we should continue to play JP to keep his value up. Can anyone explain the logic of playing the guy you plan on trading to keep his value up at the expense of giving the guy you've chosen more experience so that he can learn faster? The whole reason you're going to trade JP is because you feel Trent is a better long term answer.
    Clayton has said some pretty idiotic things each Thursday during his WGR segments. The strangest one was a few weeks ago, before the JP injury, Clayton said switching to Edwards would set the franchise back 3 years.
    What it really comes down to is the ESPN ghuys are still too tight with Donahoe & once JP is declared a bust, the entire Donahoe era must be viewed as an utter failure and they refuse to admit Donahoe hurt this team.

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    Re: John Clayton just said....

    Quote Originally Posted by slimschmittie
    We traded our second away in the Poz move up right?
    We traded 2007 2 & 3 for rights to draft him. The trade is complete, Detroit took Drew Stanton with our 2nd & Detroit traded the 3rd to Baltimore.
    Last edited by Albany,n.y.; 10-25-2007 at 08:23 PM.

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    Re: John Clayton just said....

    Quote Originally Posted by slimschmittie
    We traded our second away in the Poz move up right?
    Not this years, last years and our extra 3rd


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    Re: John Clayton just said....

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37
    that if Edwards continues to play well, it could put the Bills in a position to trade JP Losman for draft choices.

    If Edwards plays well, there is no way in hell Losman stays. Given the number of teams that have QB problems at the moment, I'm sure we could find a trading partner.

    The Bills already have a ton of picks in the upcoming draft- IF this does happen (I'm not saying it will), I really hope they make a big draft day trade and get a true playmaker like Dorsey.

    Of course, if it doesn't happen, it means Trent Edwards didn't play well and we may already be in the Dorsey sweepstakes.

    Sorry for the "stream of consciousness" nature of this post- I just saw it on TV and I was processing it in my mind as I was writing.
    Problem is I dont see more than a 4th for him. But still its better than nothing.

    Dorsey is a stud...hes one of the top 2 players in the draft INCLUDING juniors.

    But man, a stud WR (Desean Jackson), CB, DE (Calais Campbell), we could go a bunch of routes. How about OLB or even move Pos outside and draft an ILB.

    TE is a sure need but not that high.

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    Re: John Clayton just said....

    Quote Originally Posted by EdwardsEra
    Problem is I dont see more than a 4th for him. But still its better than nothing.

    Dorsey is a stud...hes one of the top 2 players in the draft INCLUDING juniors.

    But man, a stud WR (Desean Jackson), CB, DE (Calais Campbell), we could go a bunch of routes. How about OLB or even move Pos outside and draft an ILB.

    TE is a sure need but not that high.
    with the number of picks we already have, even a 4th for JP could be packaged to move up.

    In a hypothetical situation where we trade Losman for a 4th, we could move up several spots by packaging our 1st, a 3rd and a 4th for someone else's 1st and we'd still be in the 8-9 pick range with 4 first day picks (well, first day under the old system).

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    Re: John Clayton just said....

    Quote Originally Posted by slimschmittie
    We traded our second away in the Poz move up right?
    I think we traded our own third (in 2007) with our second to move up and get a higher pick in the second round. I think we have all our own picks in 2008, plus three extras. We drafted Trent Edwards with a third round pick acquired in the McGahee trade.
    I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.

    I'm the most reasonable poster here. If you don't agree, I'll be forced to have a hissy fit.

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    Must be Clayton listens to Vic Carrucci, also.
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    Re: John Clayton just said....

    We're going to be drafting 32nd guys, we're not moving up.

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    Re: John Clayton just said....

    Quote Originally Posted by TigerJ
    I think we traded our own third (in 2007) with our second to move up and get a higher pick in the second round. I think we have all our own picks in 2008, plus three extras. We drafted Trent Edwards with a third round pick acquired in the McGahee trade.
    Correct we traded last year's second (which the Lions kept and selected Drew Stanton) and our original third last year (which Detroit dealt to Baltimore who selected Yamon Figurs).

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    Re: John Clayton just said....

    Quote Originally Posted by EdwardsEra
    Problem is I dont see more than a 4th for him. But still its better than nothing.

    Dorsey is a stud...hes one of the top 2 players in the draft INCLUDING juniors.

    But man, a stud WR (Desean Jackson), CB, DE (Calais Campbell), we could go a bunch of routes. How about OLB or even move Pos outside and draft an ILB.

    TE is a sure need but not that high.

    Several shows have said that we can expect a 2nd for him.

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    Re: John Clayton just said....

    Quote Originally Posted by HHURRICANE
    Several shows have said that we can expect a 2nd for him.
    If it's Miami or the NYJets, that's as good as a first.

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    Re: John Clayton just said....

    John Clayton is jackass that spews crap out of his mouth at any chance he gets


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    Re: John Clayton just said....

    Quote Originally Posted by Skooby
    If it's Miami or the NYJets, that's as good as a first.
    Won't be Miami

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    Quote Originally Posted by LtFinFan66
    Won't be Miami
    Way to use your Mod powers to force your Rep hand, it's good to see a objective Fins fan on a Bills site. It's like having Bin-laden as our nuclear trigger guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skooby
    Way to use your Mod powers to force your Rep hand, it's good to see a objective Fins fan on a Bills site. It's like having Bin-laden as our nuclear trigger guy.
    What are you talking about Skooby

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    Quote Originally Posted by LtFinFan66
    What are you talking about Skooby
    You are too powerful, with the force. I am just kidding around.

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    Re: John Clayton just said....

    How many extra picks for next year do we have at this point? I know we have a 3rd from Mcgahee, but what did we end up with the whole walker/spikes trade?

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