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    Wow, this has to mean something...

    From Football Outsiders on ESPN:

    Buffalo's defense has the league's best defense on runs around left end (0.8 yards per carry) but the league's worst defense on runs around right end (8.7 yards per carry).

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    Re: Wow, this has to mean something...

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    Re: Wow, this has to mean something...

    Is that Kelsays-Kyle-Crowells side?

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    Re: Wow, this has to mean something...

    Quote Originally Posted by NE39
    Interesting find.

    I went to the site to see if I could find the data to support this but I wonder how many runs to the right and how many runs to the left they calculated this data from.

    If there have been 30 less runs to the left rather then the right and you take into consideration Shobel's recent tackles for loss against the Jags then it distorts the numbers. Albeit if you don't have tackles for loss then you don't get a better average.
    Where else would you rather be than right here right now?

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    Re: Wow, this has to mean something...

    Quote Originally Posted by jpdex12
    If there have been 30 less runs to the left rather then the right and you take into consideration Shobel's recent tackles for loss against the Jags then it distorts the numbers. Albeit if you don't have tackles for loss then you don't get a better average.
    OK, but after 11 games I would suggest that such a wide difference is telling, even if the number of carries is off by a wide margin. I agree that alone it doesn't mean much, but for it to be that big a difference there has to be something going on.

    Football Outsiders is very intense with analysis, and I wouldn't doubt their numbers.

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    Re: Wow, this has to mean something...

    Are they talking about left or right relative to the offense or D?

    since they said "right end" I'm assuming they mean the D, and Schobel usually plays RDE.

    The problem is that Schobel has no inside move- someone pointed this out in my thread on that topic: He heads upfield and it leaves a huge gap between him and he tackle that's vulernable to a delayed draw. Behind him is Ellison, and McGee is usually lined up on the opposite side of the D, so the CB has been rotating between Youboty, K. Thomas, J. Butler and Greer.

    Is anyone REALLY surprised that they can run to this side?

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    Re: Wow, this has to mean something...

    That stat speaks volumes.
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    Re: Wow, this has to mean something...

    interesting stat... Though its tough to tell how much it means unless we know how many rushing attempts other teams have had agaisnt us to either side of the field

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    Re: Wow, this has to mean something...

    As stated previously, Kelsay has outplayed Schobel this year (not that that means Kelsay has been spectacular).

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    Re: Wow, this has to mean something...

    Quote Originally Posted by NE39

    It means JP sucks!

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    Re: Wow, this has to mean something...

    Quote Originally Posted by acehole
    It means JP sucks!
    Good one! How about not turning this into a QB thread? Sound like an idea?

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    Re: Wow, this has to mean something...

    I brought up a possibility before training camp that had Schoebel moving to OLB (due to his reported drop to 242 pounds) and Hargrove replacing him at DE. I was bashed relentlessly for that idea... But I still think that takes the best advantage of our talent on hand.


    Oh that's right... This is Dick's team... And if your a square, you better start trimming the edges in order to fit yourself into that round hole.
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    Kelsay has been declared out for this Sunday, unfortunately...First game he's ever missed in his career according to the local sports.
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    Re: Wow, this has to mean something...

    Hmmm...........thought provoking

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    Re: Wow, this has to mean something...

    It has to mean something. I hope Perry Fewel is on top of it and addresses the issue.
    I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.

    I'm the most reasonable poster here. If you don't agree, I'll be forced to have a hissy fit.

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    Re: Wow, this has to mean something...

    McGahee, Maroney and Taylor all broke long runs down the right side. That right there skews the stats.

    This is mainly because Crowell is jumping to the inside hole and finding himself piched out of position.

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    Re: Wow, this has to mean something...

    These runs are from the perspective of the OFFENSE, so a run listed as LEFT TACKLE is actually at the RIGHT defensive end.

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/dl.php

    I think people should get off of Schobel's ass a little bit.

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