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  • patmoran2006
    Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
    • Dec 2005
    • 19840

    Bills Beat Skins.. My Rants

    Wow.
    Let's start with the obvious.


    * If there was ANY lingering doubt about the QB situation, that's over with. Trent Edwards is 4-1 as a starter, with three of those wins coming over top 10 defenses. He is showing WINNER qualities already. I'm not going to recite his passing stats because frankly, I don't give a ****. That game was very "Kelly'ish" to me. He did next to nothing but most the game but made it happen when he HAD TO (and No, I"m not stupid enough to compare Trent to Jimbo I'm just citing an example). Now, Trent didn't play great today. He made a couple of bad throws to open receivers. But God, this guy makes good decisions. He's so smart. Again, let's forget everything else; this is what you got from Trent; ZERO picks and ZERO sacks. Were it not for a couple stupid red zone holding penalties and Royal's fumble, we may have scored more. EDWARDS has a lot to learn; but wow what a promising ****ing start to his career. Years from now, we may be looking back at this game.

    I say with no bias that if Losman was starting today, he probably commits 3-4 turnovers and we lose by two touchdowns.

    * The offensive line was GREAT today. Not good, great. All that blitzing and they didn't give up a sack. Holes were there for Fred Jackson.

    *SPeaking of Jackson. Wow! This guy is great. He deserves more playing time. Forget Dwayne Wright; Lynch and Jackson can become a LETHAL 1-2 punch.

    * The front seven, led by Crowell, played GREAT today. Larry Tripplett actually MATTERED. Kyle Williams was solid and Schobel/Denney played good.

    * What's up with Scott getting all that pressure? That was nice.


    NOw.. Onto a few negatives.

    * Robert Royal, if I was Marv Levy I'd leave you at the airport. you ****ing blow. Nice fumble. Nice holding penalty in the red zone on 1st down. Seriously, you suck and what an awful free agent pickup. PLEASE give us a real tight end next offseason; that would be a good weapon for Edwards.

    *Ashton Youboty. What is your purpose on this team? You're not even good enough to be a nickel corner? We bring in Leonard and move whitner to the slot. The nickel defense is a DISASTER. Play this guy or send him packing.

    *SPeaking of Whitner; anytime you feel like making a meaningful play this season, feel free to step up.

    * Keith Ellison sucks. He gets run over all the time. He's overated in coverage and nice drop on the INT that would've went for 6. I've had enough of him, I hope Poz moves to the OLB spot next year.

    SUMMARY: It may not matter this year, but trust me, down the line this is a HUGE win for us. Young guys grew up today. The QB "controversy" BETTER be over. (Could you look anymore disinterested on the sideline, JP?). Trent did today what a winning QB does. He makes a play when he HAS to. We found a great backup RB to pair with Lynch. Josh Reed stepped up. Angelo Crowell outplayed Fletcher today. Overall, it's a great day. Maybe the Cleveland game in two weeks will mean something after all.


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  • patmoran2006
    Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
    • Dec 2005
    • 19840

    #2
    Re: Bills Beat Skins.. My Rants

    1 TD to 5 INT's "stats" or not. This guy is 4 seconds and 51 yards away from being 5-0... Bottom line.


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    • Michael82
      Registered User
      • Jul 2002
      • 82330

      #3
      Re: Bills Beat Skins.. My Rants

      I hate when people say 3-1. That's bull****! He's really 2-2 (Patriots and Cowboys games are the two losses) before the game, and now he's 3-2.

      Oh and he has 1 TD and 6 INTs. That has to get better. I'm sure it will though, because he has amazing poise and that clutch pass at the end of the game really helped pump him up and boost his standing with the team.

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      • TigerJ
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 22575

        #4
        Re: Bills Beat Skins.. My Rants

        The defense gave up third down's with regularity in the first half. That was one of the things that had me pulling my hair out. Fortunately, they tightened it up greatly in the second half. I would gladly give up some of the suspense to see the team play a solid game start to finish. I'm glad the Bills pulled one out of the fire again, but that offense brings me to tears most of the game. Trent finished with solid stats (minus a TD throw) but threw some bonehead passes along the way. He was lucky he didn't give up at least one int. Robert Royal deserves some goat dung for his costly fumble and then a holding penalty. Evans and Reed also had drops. I've said nothing about Fairchild to this point, but he's got to take some heat for the inability of this offense to put 2 on the board.

        That said, a win is a win and I'll take it gratefully.
        I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.

        I'm the most reasonable poster here. If you don't agree, I'll be forced to have a hissy fit.

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        • DraftBoy
          Administrator
          • Jul 2002
          • 107452

          #5
          Re: Bills Beat Skins.. My Rants

          Player of the game was Fred Jackson imo, he kept this offense moving the whole game and was the only consistent piece outside of the OL and Lindell.
          COMING SOON...
          Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
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          • colin
            Drew's my hero!
            • Jul 2002
            • 2491

            #6
            Re: Bills Beat Skins.. My Rants

            Originally posted by Mikey82
            I hate when people say 3-1. That's bull****! He's really 2-2 (Patriots and Cowboys games are the two losses) before the game, and now he's 3-2.

            Oh and he has 1 TD and 6 INTs. That has to get better. I'm sure it will though, because he has amazing poise and that clutch pass at the end of the game really helped pump him up and boost his standing with the team.
            mikey, you need to put the jp pipe down.

            i can sense it lingering -- please just say it:

            trent has played great for a rook, and has led us to wins.

            JP is a bottom 5 qb, perhaps the worst on the road

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            • Michael82
              Registered User
              • Jul 2002
              • 82330

              #7
              Re: Bills Beat Skins.. My Rants

              Originally posted by DraftBoy
              Player of the game was Fred Jackson imo, he kept this offense moving the whole game and was the only consistent piece outside of the OL and Lindell.
              Agreed. He's the only reason the offense was able to keep moving down the field. I was very impressed with him. He made a few good catches, but had good runs each drive, especially around the tackle.

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              • YardRat
                Well, lookie here...
                • Dec 2004
                • 86147

                #8
                Re: Bills Beat Skins.. My Rants

                Originally posted by Mikey82
                I hate when people say 3-1. That's bull****! He's really 2-2 (Patriots and Cowboys games are the two losses) before the game, and now he's 3-2.

                Oh and he has 1 TD and 6 INTs. That has to get better. I'm sure it will though, because he has amazing poise and that clutch pass at the end of the game really helped pump him up and boost his standing with the team.
                Give it up...Dean Wormer dropped the big one, and for good reason.

                Where are you coming up with six INT's, not that it matters?
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                • patmoran2006
                  Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 19840

                  #9
                  Re: Bills Beat Skins.. My Rants

                  Where do you get 6 INT's from?

                  And BTW, are you convinced yet that TD vs INT is a very overated stat?


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                  • Michael82
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                    • Jul 2002
                    • 82330

                    #10
                    Re: Bills Beat Skins.. My Rants

                    Originally posted by colin
                    mikey, you need to put the jp pipe down.

                    i can sense it lingering -- please just say it:

                    trent has played great for a rook, and has led us to wins.

                    JP is a bottom 5 qb, perhaps the worst on the road
                    sorry, but I won't say it. I think that he has played okay. But I'm not calling him great. I'm not calling him the next Tom Brady, like some people do here. But I will say, he impressed me with a few of his throws today. Then again, I also saw a bunch of passes that you JP haters would be all over JP for. Overthrows, underthrows, bounce it off the turf. But like you said, he's a rookie! So, he's not expected to be great. But still, he's just average so far IMO. I don't see Tony Romo or Ben Roethlisberger out there.

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                    • Michael82
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 82330

                      #11
                      Re: Bills Beat Skins.. My Rants

                      Originally posted by patmoran2006
                      Where do you get 6 INT's from?

                      And BTW, are you convinced yet that TD vs INT is a very overated stat?
                      Oh wait...you're right. It's not 6 INTs. It's 5. He didn't throw any today. He did come close though. But this was his first game without any INTs. Good start. Let's hope he can keep it up.

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                      • Patti120
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 2333

                        #12
                        Re: Bills Beat Skins.. My Rants

                        Was definitely pleased with TE. I think he threw for 250 yds or so with no picks. Good game. We somehow, "eeked" it out. No TD's. Crazy. We just need to start getting TD's somehow and we will look better.

                        The D gave up some yardage and points but you have to tip your hat to them and Fewell especially considering all of the injuries.. They stepped it up when they needed to.

                        Thank God Jason Peters did not have a serious injury!

                        Go Bills!

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                        • DraftBoy
                          Administrator
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 107452

                          #13
                          Re: Bills Beat Skins.. My Rants

                          Originally posted by patmoran2006
                          Where do you get 6 INT's from?

                          And BTW, are you convinced yet that TD vs INT is a very overated stat?
                          Show me a stat and Ill show you how its overrated
                          COMING SOON...
                          Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                          We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                          • Patrick76777
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 17297

                            #14
                            Re: Bills Beat Skins.. My Rants

                            Originally posted by Mikey82
                            I hate when people say 3-1. That's bull****! He's really 2-2 (Patriots and Cowboys games are the two losses) before the game, and now he's 3-2.

                            Hold up Mikey. You can make a case for Edwards not getting credit for the Jets win. But there's no way you can hang that NE loss on him. First game he ever played, didn't get any first team reps that week in practice. I don't care how much of the game he played, it was an impossible situation.
                            Resign our own guys!

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                            • Michael82
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 82330

                              #15
                              Re: Bills Beat Skins.. My Rants

                              Originally posted by Patrick76777
                              Hold up Mikey. You can make a case for Edwards not getting credit for the Jets win. But there's no way you can hang that NE loss on him. First game he ever played, didn't get any first team reps that week in practice. I don't care how much of the game he played, it was an impossible situation.
                              okay, then who gets the loss? Not Losman, because he didn't even play a quarter.

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