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    Ngata = F'n BEASTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

    Anyone watch that game last night? Or Watch a lot of Raven's games this year (I have because I love rooting for McGahee to get hurt)

    Anyway; Haloti Ngata is a god damn freak. Holy ****. It's year two in this league and other than MAYBE Haynesworth I'm not sure if there is a better DT in this league. BTW, he also plays DE sometimes when they go 3-4.

    No disrespect to Donte Whitner, he's a pretty nice safety. But holy crap, can you imagine how sick our defensive line could be had we taken him 8th last year instead of Donte? And it's not like he's an "out of the blue" freak like Colston was for N.O. last year. Many mock drafts had us taking Ngata.

    Again, flame away if you want, I'm not dissing Whitner at all. I"m speaking the truth. Schobel wouldn't see a double team all year with that monster next to him.


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    Re: Ngata = F'n BEASTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

    3-4 DT who for the last ***** time does not fit our scheme and would not have the same effect here, plus since we lack a Ray Lewis, Bart Scott, Ed Reed, Samari Rolle, and overall amazing D I doubt we'd see the same results.
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    Re: Ngata = F'n BEASTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

    A DT who blows up the line of scrimage and can get to the QB fits in ANY SCHEME... Ngata is big, but he aint slow.

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    Re: Ngata = F'n BEASTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

    We should have drafted him instead of Whitner- Whitner is average at best.

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    Re: Ngata = F'n BEASTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

    NGATA!!!!

    I love that kid, all I got was grief during that draft.

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    Re: Ngata = F'n BEASTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

    Quote Originally Posted by Devin
    NGATA!!!!

    I love that kid, all I got was grief during that draft.
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    Re: Ngata = F'n BEASTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

    Ngata would probably still have more production than Schobel and Kelsay combined regardless of whether or not he fits the scheme and also, for a big guy let me tell ya, he can run.

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    Re: Ngata = F'n BEASTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

    Quote Originally Posted by patmoran2006
    A DT who blows up the line of scrimage and can get to the QB fits in ANY SCHEME... Ngata is big, but he aint slow.
    Im not saying he wouldnt do well, just saying the results would be different and he never has been a penetrater now he is more or less just bowling mf'ers over. But alot of that is he being surrounded by talent.

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    Re: Ngata = F'n BEASTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

    Quote Originally Posted by Devin
    NGATA!!!!

    I love that kid, all I got was grief during that draft.

    my bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy
    Im not saying he wouldnt do well, just saying the results would be different and he never has been a penetrater now he is more or less just bowling mf'ers over. But alot of that is he being surrounded by talent.
    This is true while I feel hed be effective here he doesnt have near the talent here he does in Baltimore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy
    Im not saying he wouldnt do well, just saying the results would be different and he never has been a penetrater now he is more or less just bowling mf'ers over. But alot of that is he being surrounded by talent.
    I've never understood the logic about penetrating DT's. Here's the problem: our system requires DT's who can penetrate and rush the passer, but our DT's don't do it. So since we're not getting to the passer anyway, it seems to me that we'd be better off with big DT's who can at least eat up blockers and be disruptive.

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    Re: Ngata = F'n BEASTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

    My brother played agianst him in rugby for a few years. And i played agianst little brother.

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    Re: Ngata = F'n BEASTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

    I thought Ngata would be a great DT in the league. There was a time when I hoped Buffalo would draft him. Even though he's bigger than a typical Tampa 2 DT, he's quick enough and athletic enough, not to mention strong enough to succeed in any defensive scheme. That said, I'm not worrying about ancient history. Drafting had never been an exact science, and overall, I think Levy has done pretty well. He hit the trifecta this year with Lynch, Edwards and Poz, or would have at least had Poz not gotten hurt. I think in a couple years we may look back and grade the 2007 draft as one of the best ever for the Bills.
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    Re: Ngata = F'n BEASTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

    Quote Originally Posted by patmoran2006
    Anyone watch that game last night? Or Watch a lot of Raven's games this year (I have because I love rooting for McGahee to get hurt)

    Anyway; Haloti Ngata is a god damn freak. Holy ****. It's year two in this league and other than MAYBE Haynesworth I'm not sure if there is a better DT in this league. BTW, he also plays DE sometimes when they go 3-4.

    No disrespect to Donte Whitner, he's a pretty nice safety. But holy crap, can you imagine how sick our defensive line could be had we taken him 8th last year instead of Donte? And it's not like he's an "out of the blue" freak like Colston was for N.O. last year. Many mock drafts had us taking Ngata.

    Again, flame away if you want, I'm not dissing Whitner at all. I"m speaking the truth. Schobel wouldn't see a double team all year with that monster next to him.

    Hindsight is 20/20 and some people had Ngata as a stretch.

    However, I was a litttle bummed last night that he wasn't a Bill.

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    Whitner is a bum compared to this guy, but

    Who would we have put at SS then? Milloy? Wire? Scott? Peters?

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    Re: Ngata = F'n BEASTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

    Wasn't Whitner good last year? What happened to him?

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    Re: Ngata = F'n BEASTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

    Quote Originally Posted by VooDoo80
    Wasn't Whitner good last year? What happened to him?
    He doesn't have Nate Clements nor Ko Simpson playing with him back there. Not to mention our pass rush isn't nearly as good as it was last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Jokeman
    He doesn't have Nate Clements nor Ko Simpson playing with him back there. Not to mention our pass rush isn't nearly as good as it was last year.
    Not to mention were being forced to use him as a corner in our nickel package now...

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    Re: Ngata = F'n BEASTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

    Ngata was the right pick at the time for the Bills.

    Improved D-line = Improved secondary.

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    On the brightside we could have drafted bunkley



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