My 3 Round Mock...Version 1...

[BillsMan80]

Round One
1. Cincinnati-Carson Palmer, QB, USC
2. Detroit-Charles Rogers, WR, Michigan State
3. Houston-Jordan Gross, OT, Utah
4. Chicago-Jimmy Kennedy, DT, Penn State
5. Dallas-Terrell Suggs, DE, Arizona State
6. Arizona-Terence Newman, CB, Kansas State
7. Minnesota-DeWayne Robertson, DT, Kentucky
8. Jacksonville-Andre Johnson, WR, Miami
9. Carolina-Byron Leftwich, QB, Marshall
10. Baltimore-Kyle Boller, QB, California
11. Seattle-William Joseph, DT, Miami
12. St. Louis-Boss Bailey, LB, Georgia
13. NY Jets-Johnathan Sullivan, DT, Georgia
14. New England-Kevin Williams, DT, Oklahoma State
15. San Diego-Kwame Harris, OT, Stanford
16. Kansas City-Jerome McDougle, DE, Miami
17. New Orleans-Marcus Trufant, CB, Washington State
18. New Orleans-Kenny Peterson, DT, Ohio State
19. New England-Michael Haynes, DE, Penn State
20. Denver-Eric Steinbach, OG, Iowa
21. Cleveland-E.J. Henderson, LB, Maryland
22. NY Jets-Kelley Washington, WR, Tennessee
23. Buffalo-Jason Witten, TE, Tennessee
24. Indianapolis-Mike Doss, SS, Ohio State
25. NY Giants-Ty Warren, DT, Texas A&M
26. San Francisco-Chris Kelsay, DE, Nebraska
27. Pittsburgh-Troy Polamalu, SS, USC
28. Tennessee-Larry Johnson, RB, Penn State
29. Green Bay-Terry Pierce, LB, Kansas State
30. Philadelphia-Cory Redding, DE, Texas
31. Oakland-Jeff Faine, C, Notre Dame
32. Oakland-Lee Suggs, RB, Virginia Tech

Round 2
33. Cincinnati-Rien Long, DT, Washington State
34. Detroit-Onterrio Smith, RB, Oregon
35. Chicago-Dave Ragone, QB, Louisville
36. Houston-Taylor Jacobs, WR, Florida
37. Arizona-Bryant Johnson, WR, Penn State
38. Dallas-Chris Brown, RB, Colorado
39. Jacksonville-Dennis Weathersby, CB, Oregon State
40. Minnesota-Andre Woolfork, CB, Oklahoma
41. Baltimore-George Foster, OT, Georgia
42. Seattle-Gerald Hayes, LB, Pittsburgh
43. St. Louis-Brandon Lloyd, WR, Illinois
44. Washington-Musa Smith, RB, Georgia
45. Carolina-Anquan Boldin, WR, Florida State
46. San Diego-Nick Eason, DT, Clemson
47. Kansas City-Rashean Mathis, CB, Bethune-Cookman
48. Buffalo-Willis McGahee, RB, Miami
49. Miami-Al Johnson, C, Wisconsin
50. New England-Justin Fargas, RB, USC
51. Denver-DeWayne White, DE, Louisville
52. Cleveland-Bradie James, LB, LSU
53. NY Jets-Vince Manuwai, OG, Hawaii
54. New Orleans-Dallas Clark, TE, Iowa
55. Atlanta-Jon Stinchcomb, OT, Georgia
56. NY Giants-Brett Williams, OT, Florida State
57. San Francisco-Rex Grossman, QB, Florida
58. Indianapolis-Ian Scott, DT, Florida
59. Pittsburgh-Eugene Wilson, CB, Illinois
60. Tennessee-Talman Gardner, WR, Florida State
61. Philadelphia-Tyrone Calico, WR, Middle Tennessee State
62. Philadelphia-L.J. Smith, TE, Rutgers
63. Oakland-Sammy Davis, CB, Texas A&M
64. Tampa Bay-Nick Barnett, OLB, Oregon State

Round 3
65. Cincinnati-Drayton Florence, CB, Tuskegee
66. Detroit-Kevin Garrett, CB, SMU
67. Houston-Kevin Curtis, WR, Utah State
68. Chicago-Tyler Brayton, DE, Colorado
69. Dallas-Chris Simms, QB, Texas
70. Arizona-Calvin Pace, DE, Wake Forest
71. Minnesota-Andrew Williams, DE, Miami
72. Jacksonville-Mario Haggan, LB, Mississippi State
73. Seattle-Tully Banta-Cain, DE, California
74. St. Louis-Wayne Hunter, OT, Hawaii
75. New England-Clifton Smith, LB, Syracuse
76. Carolina-Montrae Holland, OG, Florida State
77. Baltimore-Sam Aiken, WR, North Carolina
78. New Orleans-Ken Hamlin, FS, Arkansas
79. Buffalo-Kareem Kelly, WR, USC
80. San Diego-Rod Babers, CB, Texas
81. Washington-Colin Cole, DT, Iowa
82. Denver-Ricky Manning Jr., CB, UCLA
83. Houston-Julian Battle, S, Tennessee
84. Cleveland-Torrin Tucker, OG, Southern Mississippi
85. NY Jets-Eric Manning, DT, Oregon State
86. New Orleans-Lance Briggs, LB, Arizona
87. Miami-Victor Hobson, LB, Michigan
88. Houston-Matt Wilhelm, LB, Ohio State
89. San Francisco-Jarrett Johnson, DT, Alabama
90. Indianapolis-Pisa Tinoisamoa, LB, Hawaii
91. NY Giants-Alonzo Jackson, DE, Florida State
92. Pittsburgh-Cecil Sapp, RB, Colorado State
93. Tennessee-Shane Walton, CB, Notre Dame
94. Green Bay-Anthony Adams, DT, Penn State
95. Philadelphia-Clint Mitchell, DE, Florida
96. Oakland-Teyo Johnson, WR/TE, Stanford
97. Tampa Bay-Antwoine Sanders, S, Utah

Now, you may want to know my reasoning for the Bills picks. For starters, I see no need to address the defense. Jones and Schobel will be a good tandem at End and McKenzie, Irons, and Denney will provide solid depth. No room for a DE IMO. At DT, Williams and Adams are 2 of the best in the business, and Bannan and Edwards have proven they can play in a rotation. As for the LBs, we are fine there with 2 solid reserves in Polk and Spoon. Many people also clamor about CB...Kevin Thomas folks...kid was very impressive in the last few weeks of the year. He is the answer as our nickel corner. That leaves a few positions to work on. TE...we do not have a great pass catching TE on our roster. Witten I think can have the same impact as Shockey this year. He is that good. RB...we also have no backup at RB. Yes, we are pursuing Gary, but other teams are interested. Willis McGahee is progressing extremely well in his rehab and as of last check, he passed all the tests on his knee so it looks like he'll be ready to go this year. Plus, he gives us a stud playmaker who can take it to the house every time he touches the ball. Eventually, when Henry becomes a Free Agent, if we sign him to a long-term deal, we can deal McGahee, i.e.-Matt Hasselback and if we don't sign Travis, McGahee will be ready to step in. Then, Kareem Kelly is a player who is on the smallish side, but reminds me of Peerless Price in so many ways, except with a class attitude. Is a speedster and would help our receivers.

[4thAndLong]

Originally posted by BillsMan80
Round One
1. Cincinnati-Carson Palmer, QB, USC
2. Detroit-Charles Rogers, WR, Michigan State
3. Houston-Jordan Gross, OT, Utah
4. Chicago-Jimmy Kennedy, DT, Penn State
5. Dallas-Terrell Suggs, DE, Arizona State
6. Arizona-Terence Newman, CB, Kansas State
7. Minnesota-DeWayne Robertson, DT, Kentucky
8. Jacksonville-Andre Johnson, WR, Miami
9. Carolina-Byron Leftwich, QB, Marshall
10. Baltimore-Kyle Boller, QB, California
11. Seattle-William Joseph, DT, Miami
12. St. Louis-Boss Bailey, LB, Georgia
13. NY Jets-Johnathan Sullivan, DT, Georgia
14. New England-Kevin Williams, DT, Oklahoma State
15. San Diego-Kwame Harris, OT, Stanford
16. Kansas City-Jerome McDougle, DE, Miami
17. New Orleans-Marcus Trufant, CB, Washington State
18. New Orleans-Kenny Peterson, DT, Ohio State
19. New England-Michael Haynes, DE, Penn State
20. Denver-Eric Steinbach, OG, Iowa
21. Cleveland-E.J. Henderson, LB, Maryland
22. NY Jets-Kelley Washington, WR, Tennessee
23. Buffalo-Jason Witten, TE, Tennessee
24. Indianapolis-Mike Doss, SS, Ohio State
25. NY Giants-Ty Warren, DT, Texas A&M
26. San Francisco-Chris Kelsay, DE, Nebraska
27. Pittsburgh-Troy Polamalu, SS, USC
28. Tennessee-Larry Johnson, RB, Penn State
29. Green Bay-Terry Pierce, LB, Kansas State
30. Philadelphia-Cory Redding, DE, Texas
31. Oakland-Jeff Faine, C, Notre Dame
32. Oakland-Lee Suggs, RB, Virginia Tech

Round 2
33. Cincinnati-Rien Long, DT, Washington State
34. Detroit-Onterrio Smith, RB, Oregon
35. Chicago-Dave Ragone, QB, Louisville
36. Houston-Taylor Jacobs, WR, Florida
37. Arizona-Bryant Johnson, WR, Penn State
38. Dallas-Chris Brown, RB, Colorado
39. Jacksonville-Dennis Weathersby, CB, Oregon State
40. Minnesota-Andre Woolfork, CB, Oklahoma
41. Baltimore-George Foster, OT, Georgia
42. Seattle-Gerald Hayes, LB, Pittsburgh
43. St. Louis-Brandon Lloyd, WR, Illinois
44. Washington-Musa Smith, RB, Georgia
45. Carolina-Anquan Boldin, WR, Florida State
46. San Diego-Nick Eason, DT, Clemson
47. Kansas City-Rashean Mathis, CB, Bethune-Cookman
48. Buffalo-Willis McGahee, RB, Miami
49. Miami-Al Johnson, C, Wisconsin
50. New England-Justin Fargas, RB, USC
51. Denver-DeWayne White, DE, Louisville
52. Cleveland-Bradie James, LB, LSU
53. NY Jets-Vince Manuwai, OG, Hawaii
54. New Orleans-Dallas Clark, TE, Iowa
55. Atlanta-Jon Stinchcomb, OT, Georgia
56. NY Giants-Brett Williams, OT, Florida State
57. San Francisco-Rex Grossman, QB, Florida
58. Indianapolis-Ian Scott, DT, Florida
59. Pittsburgh-Eugene Wilson, CB, Illinois
60. Tennessee-Talman Gardner, WR, Florida State
61. Philadelphia-Tyrone Calico, WR, Middle Tennessee State
62. Philadelphia-L.J. Smith, TE, Rutgers
63. Oakland-Sammy Davis, CB, Texas A&M
64. Tampa Bay-Nick Barnett, OLB, Oregon State

Round 3
65. Cincinnati-Drayton Florence, CB, Tuskegee
66. Detroit-Kevin Garrett, CB, SMU
67. Houston-Kevin Curtis, WR, Utah State
68. Chicago-Tyler Brayton, DE, Colorado
69. Dallas-Chris Simms, QB, Texas
70. Arizona-Calvin Pace, DE, Wake Forest
71. Minnesota-Andrew Williams, DE, Miami
72. Jacksonville-Mario Haggan, LB, Mississippi State
73. Seattle-Tully Banta-Cain, DE, California
74. St. Louis-Wayne Hunter, OT, Hawaii
75. New England-Clifton Smith, LB, Syracuse
76. Carolina-Montrae Holland, OG, Florida State
77. Baltimore-Sam Aiken, WR, North Carolina
78. New Orleans-Ken Hamlin, FS, Arkansas
79. Buffalo-Kareem Kelly, WR, USC
80. San Diego-Rod Babers, CB, Texas
81. Washington-Colin Cole, DT, Iowa
82. Denver-Ricky Manning Jr., CB, UCLA
83. Houston-Julian Battle, S, Tennessee
84. Cleveland-Torrin Tucker, OG, Southern Mississippi
85. NY Jets-Eric Manning, DT, Oregon State
86. New Orleans-Lance Briggs, LB, Arizona
87. Miami-Victor Hobson, LB, Michigan
88. Houston-Matt Wilhelm, LB, Ohio State
89. San Francisco-Jarrett Johnson, DT, Alabama
90. Indianapolis-Pisa Tinoisamoa, LB, Hawaii
91. NY Giants-Alonzo Jackson, DE, Florida State
92. Pittsburgh-Cecil Sapp, RB, Colorado State
93. Tennessee-Shane Walton, CB, Notre Dame
94. Green Bay-Anthony Adams, DT, Penn State
95. Philadelphia-Clint Mitchell, DE, Florida
96. Oakland-Teyo Johnson, WR/TE, Stanford
97. Tampa Bay-Antwoine Sanders, S, Utah

Now, you may want to know my reasoning for the Bills picks. For starters, I see no need to address the defense. Jones and Schobel will be a good tandem at End and McKenzie, Irons, and Denney will provide solid depth. No room for a DE IMO. At DT, Williams and Adams are 2 of the best in the business, and Bannan and Edwards have proven they can play in a rotation. As for the LBs, we are fine there with 2 solid reserves in Polk and Spoon. Many people also clamor about CB...Kevin Thomas folks...kid was very impressive in the last few weeks of the year. He is the answer as our nickel corner. That leaves a few positions to work on. TE...we do not have a great pass catching TE on our roster. Witten I think can have the same impact as Shockey this year. He is that good. RB...we also have no backup at RB. Yes, we are pursuing Gary, but other teams are interested. Willis McGahee is progressing extremely well in his rehab and as of last check, he passed all the tests on his knee so it looks like he'll be ready to go this year. Plus, he gives us a stud playmaker who can take it to the house every time he touches the ball. Eventually, when Henry becomes a Free Agent, if we sign him to a long-term deal, we can deal McGahee, i.e.-Matt Hasselback and if we don't sign Travis, McGahee will be ready to step in. Then, Kareem Kelly is a player who is on the smallish side, but reminds me of Peerless Price in so many ways, except with a class attitude. Is a speedster and would help our receivers.

Our DL is a bunch of scrubs. Jones hasen't played in 2 years, and Schoebel still isn't up to his potential yet. Denney is a bust, he's not even good for depth. Bannan and Edwards have proved they can rotate in, when? We're gonna get eat up. I like Irons at depth..And McKenzie should be good depth also, but the DE is constantly rotating...We would need some depth in there...People that can actually play, Denney couldn't beat out the janitor.

[BillsMan80]

How can you call Denney a bust after 1 year? Not even Flowers was a bust after 1 year, but after 2 yes, and Moulds was considered a bust after 1 or 2 years. Give Denney time. An early DE would have the same chance. Bannan played well IMO in his time and showed that he can fit into a rotation. Good run stuffer. And while Edwards isn't a starter, he can certainly be a depth player. You are really selling our players short, especially at DT.

[4thAndLong]

Originally posted by BillsMan80
How can you call Denney a bust after 1 year? Not even Flowers was a bust after 1 year, but after 2 yes, and Moulds was considered a bust after 1 or 2 years. Give Denney time. An early DE would have the same chance. Bannan played well IMO in his time and showed that he can fit into a rotation. Good run stuffer. And while Edwards isn't a starter, he can certainly be a depth player. You are really selling our players short, especially at DT.

How can you sell scrubs short? Denney didn't get any playing time last year on a last place D. Edwards can be depth, but you rotate DL. Besides, you dont know how Adams health will hold up. I remember some reports on that. Bannan looked pretty good in little time, but the DL is pure speculation right now. I would like some assurance at DE.

[Tatonka]

so drafting someone at DE is assurance?? we drafted denny in the 2nd round.. what assurance did he provide?

denny and bannan just finished rookie seasons.. you have got to give them more of a chance.. edwards was a 3rd round pick too if i remember correctly. TD is not just going to throw out his draft picks after their 1st and 2nd years.. irons actually showed alot in limited duty

so who do you suggest TD cut?

i dont think there is any chance that TD uses a pick that high on a RB.. i think you would be more likely to see a guy like musa smith in round 4-5..

and he thought of drafting a TE in the first round ... i think that would officially ruin the draft for the bills.. witten is not shockey.. he is not close to shockey.. shock was a guy that people thought about taking in the top 10.. witten is a guy that will go in the late first at the highest.. and there are other guys that are as good if not better that will be had in later rounds.. like clarke... look at last year.. mcmichael came out of the 4th round.. reimersma was a 7th rounder.. let the jets and steelers waste early picks on stiffs like becht and bruener.. i think TE is a horrible idea..

but i can appreciate the work that you put into doing that draft.. i think you did well overall.. just hope your off on the bills picks... wouldnt mind mcgahee.. just dont think it is gonna happen

[4thAndLong]

Originally posted by Tatonka
so drafting someone at DE is assurance?? we drafted denny in the 2nd round.. what assurance did he provide?

denny and bannan just finished rookie seasons.. you have got to give them more of a chance.. edwards was a 3rd round pick too if i remember correctly. TD is not just going to throw out his draft picks after their 1st and 2nd years.. irons actually showed alot in limited duty

so who do you suggest TD cut?

i dont think there is any chance that TD uses a pick that high on a RB.. i think you would be more likely to see a guy like musa smith in round 4-5..

and he thought of drafting a TE in the first round ... i think that would officially ruin the draft for the bills.. witten is not shockey.. he is not close to shockey.. shock was a guy that people thought about taking in the top 10.. witten is a guy that will go in the late first at the highest.. and there are other guys that are as good if not better that will be had in later rounds.. like clarke... look at last year.. mcmichael came out of the 4th round.. reimersma was a 7th rounder.. let the jets and steelers waste early picks on stiffs like becht and bruener.. i think TE is a horrible idea..

but i can appreciate the work that you put into doing that draft.. i think you did well overall.. just hope your off on the bills picks... wouldnt mind mcgahee.. just dont think it is gonna happen

There's no assurance for bringing in someone like Adams either, there is no assurance in the NFL. Drafting someone who can provide a decent pass rush and that the scouts think can turn it up to the next level in the 1st round is what we need. Denney will be a bust. Explain to me why he couldn't get playing time on a last place D and I'll show some confidence in the DL. Unless someone steps up, we need to bring someone in here. I dont care if its FA or the draft.

[Tatonka]

well.. you may feel that way... but i promise you that TD and GW will NOT cut denny, bannan, or edwards...

so plan on rooting for them next season.

[WCoastFin]

This is bogus, Miami picking up C Al Johnson with their first pick when C S. Mckinnie was picked last year and is solid has got to be a good clue that this is nowhere near a good mock draft....

Sorry, Try again.

[Tatonka]

i liked it better when wtoast was hiding for a few months while we were busy making tons of good moves and his team watched.

[WCoastFin]

I wasnt hiding, off-seasons just go by so slow.

[Tatonka]

well, slow it down again and go away till the season starts and we begin watching our teams go in different directions.. much like when your team choked again last year.. while ours heads to the playoffs.

[The Spaz]

I'm just going to say terrible! Go Bills!

[SABURZFAN]

Originally posted by Tatonka
well, slow it down again and go away till the season starts and we begin watching our teams go in different directions.. much like when your team choked again last year.. while ours heads to the playoffs.

c'mon Tatonka.i sort of missed Wheat Toast.

[BillsMan80]

Why the hell does everyone think the defense in such bad shape? WE MUST go offense in this draft. ABSOLUTE MUST. Our defense is better than our offense, and that's obvious. The only one's who don't believe that are smoking something good. We have filled every hole on defense. The offense is in dire straights. We have Moulds, Henry, and Question marks. WE MUST address the offense before the defense.

[The Spaz]

You must have a bunch of twins because not too many around here are ranting about going offense. Go Bills!

[BillsMan80]

Then tell me exactly where we need defense, because I don't see it...Our offense lost over 190 receptions...and a lot of production, which is more than our defense. Our defense gained a lot, our offense lost a lot. It's quite simple. To be honest, our WRs are the biggest Question Marks. We have Moulds, and Question marks. While I hope Reed is the answer, I am not sure about that. He may not be ready, but we will see.

[Romes]

Originally posted by BillsMan80
Why the hell does everyone think the defense in such bad shape? WE MUST go offense in this draft. ABSOLUTE MUST. Our defense is better than our offense, and that's obvious. The only one's who don't believe that are smoking something good. We have filled every hole on defense. The offense is in dire straights. We have Moulds, Henry, and Question marks. WE MUST address the offense before the defense.

How can you say that the offense has a bunch of question marks? We had a very potent offense last year and only 2 starters have changed: Peerless Price and Jay Reimersma. Who are all these question marks on offense you are talking about?

Since, we seem to be moving to a power running game those two loses won't be factor in too much. Just because they are question marks in your mind doesn't mean everyone else should view them as question marks. Yes, Josh Reed is a question mark but knowing his track record he seems like a safe bet to be a solid WR.

Then again on defense we have Marcus Jones who hasn't played in a year coming off major knee surgery. That makes him an immediate question mark. His back up Keith McKenzie hasn't had good years last 2 years. Another question mark. Denny hasn't performed well in limited action another question mark. Posey had one good year little of a question mark. Prielou and Reese are hardly top of the line FS those are debateable question marks. Coy Wire is a question mark in pass coverage. Whether or not he will improve in that facet of the game or not.

[THATHURMANATOR]

I don't mind your 2nd and 3rd round picks, assuming that we don't get Gary or Ismail, but in the first round I wan't a D lineman!

[Romes]

I agree in that I could see us going WR first round but I don't think we will go offense with our 1st 3 picks. We won't go RB that early although we might pick a RB 3rd round.

You are high on Thomas yet not sold on Reed. Yet, Reed showed more last year than Thomas did. That doesn't make sense to me. The way you are thinking towards Reed (which is reasonable) should apply to Thomas too. Remember Watson played pretty well at the end of 2001. I think we will go CB round 2.

[BillsMan80]

Originally posted by Romes


How can you say that the offense has a bunch of question marks? We had a very potent offense last year and only 2 starters have changed: Peerless Price and Jay Reimersma. Who are all these question marks on offense you are talking about?

Since, we seem to be moving to a power running game those two loses won't be factor in too much. Just because they are question marks in your mind doesn't mean everyone else should view them as question marks. Yes, Josh Reed is a question mark but knowing his track record he seems like a safe bet to be a solid WR.

Then again on defense we have Marcus Jones who hasn't played in a year coming off major knee surgery. That makes him an immediate question mark. His back up Keith McKenzie hasn't had good years last 2 years. Another question mark. Denny hasn't performed well in limited action another question mark. Posey had one good year little of a question mark. Prielou and Reese are hardly top of the line FS those are debateable question marks. Coy Wire is a question mark in pass coverage. Whether or not he will improve in that facet of the game or not.

The only question marks I think we have on defense are whether Jones and McKenzie will return to pre-injury form. Besides, aside from McDougle, none of the other DEs in this draft really impress me to warrant a 1st Round selection. Denney has to be given a chance to see whether he has it. Posey is being brought in here in the same capacity as he was in Houston. Rush the passer, so that doesn't seem like a question mark. Prioleau and Reese are solid players who aren't going to make very many mistakes, and Wire was a rookie last year. He will improve if not just because of the acquisition of Dick LeBeau. Plus, Jones's injury wasn't all that serious. He could have played last year.