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  • Yasgur's Farm
    Moderator
    • Feb 2005
    • 7091
    #1

    What are the pros and cons...

    What is the advantage of trading for Williams vs signing free agents Bryant Johnson or Ernest Wilford?

    PROS...
    1) A trade would be more in our control over a bidding war for the FA's.

    CONS...
    1) With Williams signed thru 2009, we'd probably have to re-do his contract pretty close to what it would take to land the FA's.
    2) We'd lose our 2nd rounder.

    Either way... Unless we both traded for Williams and signed 1 of Johnson or Wilford... We're gonna draft a WR.
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  • streetkings01
    Registered User
    • Jul 2006
    • 2980
    #2
    Re: What are the pros and cons...

    I'll pass on Williams! Not worth the contract he would demand and the headache either IMO. I doubt he would come to Buffalo and accept a #2 role especially since he's already publicly stated that he would prefer to play for a team in his home state of Texas(Cowgirls or Texans?)!
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    • VeggieMan14
      Registered User
      • Jan 2008
      • 1805
      #3
      Re: What are the pros and cons...

      I really do not see many cons to this. We get a great WR to compliment Lee evans and someone big that we can throw to in the endzone. Yes we lose our second rounder but i coukd see us trading our first round pick to someone like washington for their 1st and 2nd round picks so we could draft a good tight end or Dan Connor if he is still their
      I feel a win streak coming and a Bills Playoff Run!!!



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      • Philagape
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        • Jul 2002
        • 19432
        #4
        Re: What are the pros and cons...

        The con on trading for Williams is it isn't gonna happen.
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        • yordad
          Registered User
          • Dec 2007
          • 11867
          #5
          Re: What are the pros and cons...

          Did he ask for a trade or something? Or did the Lions ask for a 2nd?
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          • VeggieMan14
            Registered User
            • Jan 2008
            • 1805
            #6
            Re: What are the pros and cons...

            Theirs a rumor the lions asked for a second
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            • bigbub2352
              Registered User
              • Feb 2005
              • 5386
              #7
              Re: What are the pros and cons...

              i would trade a second for him in a second, what if Evans goes back to his 2 slot then we are talkin
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              • SquishDaFish
                Lets GO BUFFALO!!
                • Jun 2005
                • 17034
                #8
                Re: What are the pros and cons...

                I would trade a 2nd for him in a heartbeat
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                • yordad
                  Registered User
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 11867
                  #9
                  Re: What are the pros and cons...

                  If they want a second for him, it would be a no brainer, IMO.
                  "Heck, now I am glad his overrated arce made the pro bowl, else we would have only got a 3rd." ~ yordad

                  "I've just been hit with a piece of sky. " ~ yordad

                  "Forgive my opinion, but...." ~ yordad

                  "Warning: I might be hammered." ~ yordad

                  "I don't care if the word is "your" or "you're", so buzz off. Its (it's) a frickin(') message board." ~ yordad

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                  • VeggieMan14
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 1805
                    #10
                    Re: What are the pros and cons...

                    Same here i think it would be a great pick up for us especially since we can sign him with all our cap room
                    I feel a win streak coming and a Bills Playoff Run!!!



                    VeggieMan- To many Concussions as a kid

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                    • m1orenz
                      Registered User
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 93
                      #11
                      Re: What are the pros and cons...

                      Originally posted by draz54
                      What is the advantage of trading for Williams vs signing free agents Bryant Johnson or Ernest Wilford?

                      PROS...
                      1) A trade would be more in our control over a bidding war for the FA's.

                      CONS...
                      1) With Williams signed thru 2009, we'd probably have to re-do his contract pretty close to what it would take to land the FA's.
                      2) We'd lose our 2nd rounder.

                      Either way... Unless we both traded for Williams and signed 1 of Johnson or Wilford... We're gonna draft a WR.
                      the last yr on his contract is voidable so we would have 1 yr of him. He wants to get the most money possible so i dont think a 1st day pick is worth it

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                      • VeggieMan14
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 1805
                        #12
                        Re: What are the pros and cons...

                        Originally posted by m1orenz
                        the last yr on his contract is voidable so we would have 1 yr of him. He wants to get the most money possible so i dont think a 1st day pick is worth it
                        we could always trade for him and reconstruct his contract now
                        I feel a win streak coming and a Bills Playoff Run!!!



                        VeggieMan- To many Concussions as a kid

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                        • Mr. Pink
                          Peterman Sucks!
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 35303
                          #13
                          Re: What are the pros and cons...

                          The difference between trading for Williams or signing Johnson, Gage or Wilford?

                          About 4 million dollars per season and about 40 million dollars overall.

                          On top of losing a draft pick.

                          Also the guaranteed departure of Lee Evans next year.
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                          • yordad
                            Registered User
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 11867
                            #14
                            Re: What are the pros and cons...

                            Originally posted by FunTimesYaY!
                            The difference between trading for Williams or signing Johnson, Gage or Wilford?

                            About 4 million dollars per season and about 40 million dollars overall.

                            On top of losing a draft pick.

                            Also the guaranteed departure of Lee Evans next year.
                            So... the glass would still be half empty?

                            I think the difference would be about 350 yards, 25 catches, and 4 tds. But don't get me wrong, I'd like to have Johnson.

                            Let me see: take the crap shoot second round draft pick, or take a bona fide stud WR? Don't get me wrong, there are some good prospects, but I don't think I would mind the bona fide stud.

                            NTM, I find it hard to believe Williams gets 40 million more then Johnson. In fact, wanna bet?

                            Do I think it is the best thing we could do? Not exactly, but it would be a significant move, so I wouldn't be mad.
                            "Heck, now I am glad his overrated arce made the pro bowl, else we would have only got a 3rd." ~ yordad

                            "I've just been hit with a piece of sky. " ~ yordad

                            "Forgive my opinion, but...." ~ yordad

                            "Warning: I might be hammered." ~ yordad

                            "I don't care if the word is "your" or "you're", so buzz off. Its (it's) a frickin(') message board." ~ yordad

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                            • Mr. Pink
                              Peterman Sucks!
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 35303
                              #15
                              Re: What are the pros and cons...

                              Originally posted by yordad
                              So... the glass would still be half empty?

                              I think the difference would be about 350 yards, 25 catches, and 4 tds. But don't get me wrong, I'd like to have Johnson.

                              Let me see: take the crap shoot second round draft pick, or take a bona fide stud WR? Don't get me wrong, there are some good prospects, but I don't think I would mind the bona fide stud.

                              NTM, I find it hard to believe Williams gets 40 million more then Johnson. In fact, wanna bet?

                              Do I think it is the best thing we could do? Not exactly, but it would be a significant move, so I wouldn't be mad.
                              Johnson doesn't have the body of work to guarantee such a huge payday. He's going to probably be in the neighborhood of 3-4 a year for like 4 years. Meanwhile, Roy Williams is going to want a 7 year deal for like 50 million. Not too mention Williams is going to want more guaranteed money.

                              Which Williams will get more guaranteed money. Why, you ask? Because he has the proven track record to "justify" it where as Johnson, does not.

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