And just who traded Welker to the Pats??

[Ebenezer]

[Night Train]

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Some dope not working for Parcells, I'm guessing.

[LtFinFan66]

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and who gives a ****. He would not have had those numbers for his prior team and they got a 2nd and a 7th for him both of who are on the roster and one is the starting center

[Jan Reimers]

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The same guy who drafted Ginn and Beck, and traded Chambers to the Chargers?

I'm glad we were too cheap to hire THAT guy.

[LtFinFan66]

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You guys really need to worry more about your own organization

[!Papacrunk!]

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So instead of GIVING AWAY draft picks like candy at Halloween, the team started to acquire draft picks by making tough decisions and trading players they'd probably like to keep. When a team has a lot of holes, you need all of the picks you can get.

Plus the other thing that everyone forgets is the San Diego Chargers signed Wes Welker as an undrafted free agent then cut him, allowing the Dolphins to sign him and ultimately receive a 2nd round pick (our starting center, Samson Satele) and a 7th round pick by trading a very superb slot receiver to the Patriots.

Welker deserves the accolades, but I think a lot of players would excell playing with Randy Moss, Tom Brady and co. IMO.

[Michael82]

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I was a little surprised to not see him returning kicks and punts yesterday.

[Ickybaluky]

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I was a little surprised to not see him returning kicks and punts yesterday.

He was returning punts, Mikey.

He would not have had those numbers for his prior team and they got a 2nd and a 7th for him both of who are on the roster and one is the starting center

Welker deserves the accolades, but I think a lot of players would excell playing with Randy Moss, Tom Brady and co. IMO.

I find it ironic how Welker's contributions are under-appreciated by some. He was one of the best receivers in the NFL this year. He tied for the NFL lead in receptions and led the NFL in yards after catch. What more does the guy have to do?

Trading him was an absolutely foolish move by Miami and shouldn't be defended. You can try to degrade the guy because he played on a great offense with a great QB, but so didn't a lot of other great WR. Samson Satele would have to turn into Dwight Stephenson to justify that trade. Chalk it up to a poor decision and move on.

Just because the guy is small and not a burner doesn't mean his production can't be ignored. There are a lot of guys who look the part a lot more than him that can't do what he does in a game.

My favorite stat on Welker's season comes courtesy of Peter King:

Jerry Rice's best season (1995):

122 receptions regular season + 11 receptions postseason = 133 receptions

Wes Welker this year:

112 receptions regular season + 27 receptions postseason = 139 receptions


That Rice guy probably was just a product of that great SF offense and Joe Montana, right?

Please....

[Gunzlingr]

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Welker is a catching machine.

[LtFinFan66]

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He was returning punts, Mikey.





I find it ironic how Welker's contributions are under-appreciated by some. He was one of the best receivers in the NFL this year. He tied for the NFL lead in receptions and led the NFL in yards after catch. What more does the guy have to do?

Trading him was an absolutely foolish move by Miami and shouldn't be defended. You can try to degrade the guy because he played on a great offense with a great QB, but so didn't a lot of other great WR. Samson Satele would have to turn into Dwight Stephenson to justify that trade. Chalk it up to a poor decision and move on.

Just because the guy is small and not a burner doesn't mean his production can't be ignored. There are a lot of guys who look the part a lot more than him that can't do what he does in a game.

My favorite stat on Welker's season comes courtesy of Peter King:

Jerry Rice's best season (1995):

122 receptions regular season + 11 receptions postseason = 133 receptions

Wes Welker this year:

112 receptions regular season + 27 receptions postseason = 139 receptions


That Rice guy probably was just a product of that great SF offense and Joe Montana, right?

Please....

Says the guy who defends Wilfork


And for the record, I loved Welker and was sorry to see him go but it was the right move. I would never degrade what he did. He had a great season with a great QB throwing him the ball and a great receiver on the outside. If you honestly think he would have put up those numbers for the Fins, then you truly have no clue

[YardRat]

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If the Pats did win, WW should have been the MVP hands-down.

[Ickybaluky]

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And for the record, I loved Welker and was sorry to see him go but it was the right move. I would never degrade what he did. He had a great season with a great QB throwing him the ball and a great receiver on the outside. If you honestly think he would have put up those numbers for the Fins, then you truly have no clue

No, you have no clue. The fact is he had a great season, end of story. Jerry Rice played for great teams, that doesn't diminish his accomplishments. He led the NFL in receptions and yards-after-catch, for crying out loud. 65 of his receptions when for first downs, 8th in the NFL. He made Brady and Moss better as much as they made him better.

He was one of Miami's best players on offense the year prior, despite being under-utilized. He led them in receptions, despite not playing as many snaps as Chambers, Booker and Randy McMichael. They got rid of him, and made a division opponent a lot better in the process. Stupid trade. There is no other way to describe it. Your whistling into the wind if you think otherwise, it is a fact. He even is a great value, as he has far out-performed the contract has signed.

I don't know if you realize this, but the point is for teams to keep their good players.

[Static]

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While I do agree that welker would not have the same number in Miami, it's not because of him, it is because of the lack of QB in Miami. It was a bad decision to trade him especially to a division rival who already had too many weapons. Welker was inexpensive and a hard worker plus his attitude is what our team needs, Satele is nice, but it is still a wait and see on him.

[Ebenezer]

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While I do agree that welker would not have the same number in Miami, it's not because of him, it is because of the lack of QB in Miami. It was a bad decision to trade him especially to a division rival who already had too many weapons. Welker was inexpensive and a hard worker plus his attitude is what our team needs, Satele is nice, but it is still a wait and see on him.

post of the day...

[!Papacrunk!]

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The Patriots were going to get Welker no matter what IMO. We just had to grin & nod and take the 2nd/7th round picks in compensation. I have nothing to base their absolute desire to do whatever it would take to get him, but I think they were lucky to get compensation for him. Who knows if Welker would've been important enough for the posion pill treatment.