Open Thread: Debate #3-The Final Debate

**Gunzlingr** · 03-31-2008, 02:22 PM

Re: Open Thread: Debate #3-The Final Debate

Originally posted by RockStar36

Further research probably would've helped.

I'd thank you, but that doesn't seem to be an option right now.

**DraftBoy** · 03-31-2008, 02:24 PM

Re: Open Thread: Debate #3-The Final Debate

Originally posted by RockStar36

Further research probably would've helped.

That's funny

**DraftBoy** · 03-31-2008, 02:24 PM

Re: Open Thread: Debate #3-The Final Debate

Originally posted by Gunzlingr

I'd thank you, but that doesn't seem to be an option right now.

Reload the page and it should pop up

**BlackMetalNinja** · 03-31-2008, 02:29 PM

Re: Open Thread: Debate #3-The Final Debate

One of the unique features of the board is that posters must prove themselves worthy of being able to post on the main SOSH board, either by a consistent stream of insightful analysis/commentary in the Sandbox forum (thereby meriting promotion to the big leagues)

I can thoroughly understand how you wouldn't see that a "starter" forum was implied here...

**DraftBoy** · 03-31-2008, 02:30 PM

Re: Open Thread: Debate #3-The Final Debate

Originally posted by BlackMetalNinja

I can thoroughly understand how you wouldn't see that a "starter" forum was implied here...

Glad you see it my way

Is it possible though to get any kind of a specific from anybody on the MBB team about what they will be doing if MBB is elected to improve the BZ? Is there some new game that will be instituted?

**LtBillsFan66** · 03-31-2008, 02:32 PM

Re: Open Thread: Debate #3-The Final Debate

Originally posted by DraftBoy

Glad you see it my way

Is it possible though to get any kind of a specific from anybody on the MBB team about what they will be doing if MBB is elected to improve the BZ? Is there some new game that will be instituted?

**RockStar36** · 03-31-2008, 02:32 PM

Re: Open Thread: Debate #3-The Final Debate

Originally posted by DraftBoy

Glad you see it my way

Is it possible though to get any kind of a specific from anybody on the MBB team about what they will be doing if MBB is elected to improve the BZ? Is there some new game that will be instituted?

I would have to discuss with Mike what he wants to do. I know that the BZ isn't the only forum on the board that needs fixed.

Why do you keep throwing specifics out there? It's like a blind argument. I was proving a point and you said it was comparing apples to oranges, which it wasn't, and then all of a sudden you turn into the specifics conversation again. It's almost as if my argument made sense so you quickly change the topic...again.

**BlackMetalNinja** · 03-31-2008, 02:33 PM

Re: Open Thread: Debate #3-The Final Debate

Originally posted by DraftBoy

Glad you see it my way

Is it possible though to get any kind of a specific from anybody on the MBB team about what they will be doing if MBB is elected to improve the BZ? Is there some new game that will be instituted?

Really? Now you're just being elitist like your candidate. Once again, I'm done with you for the day, I don't have the energy to waste on you endless spinning.

**DraftBoy** · 03-31-2008, 02:38 PM

Re: Open Thread: Debate #3-The Final Debate

Originally posted by BlackMetalNinja

Really? Now you're just being elitist like your candidate. Once again, I'm done with you for the day, I don't have the energy to waste on you endless spinning.

Spinning of what exactly? You see it your way, I see it my way, Im not trying to convince you of my way. Thats fruitless, my concern is that so far to date Bedard has laid out NO SPECIFIC ideas about how to fix the zone but rather vast generalization that could mean many different things. Im asking for one specific idea on how to fix the BZ. If its a game so be it, but what the hell, I mean does the guy have an idea, does he not? If he's going with generalizations thats fair but at least state it. I mean is my question that difficult to answer?

**DraftBoy** · 03-31-2008, 02:40 PM

Re: Open Thread: Debate #3-The Final Debate

Originally posted by RockStar36

I would have to discuss with Mike what he wants to do. I know that the BZ isn't the only forum on the board that needs fixed.

Why do you keep throwing specifics out there? It's like a blind argument. I was proving a point and you said it was comparing apples to oranges, which it wasn't, and then all of a sudden you turn into the specifics conversation again. It's almost as if my argument made sense so you quickly change the topic...again.

No doubt and thats fine, get with Mike and get back to me, I really do want to hear his specific ideas.

No you werent proving a point, you were trying to say that we could only do A or B (A being the upgrade, and B being improving the BZ through whatever means) my counter point was that A and B are no exclusive to each other and can be done is unison. To which so far you have had no counter to. I also was curious that since you being MBB staff were talking about the BZ and so far I had no seen any specific ideas from MBB concerning how to fix the BZ content wise if he had any. I thought that since it was a big issue for his staff that he would have ideas on how to fix it. Yet here I sit still awaiting that.

**RockStar36** · 03-31-2008, 02:44 PM

Re: Open Thread: Debate #3-The Final Debate

I did NOT say that it was a choice between A or B. I said that when prioritizing the changes, an actual layout (or in this case paint job) should be at the bottom of the list. You deal with one problem at a time and when one problem is fixed, move to the next one.

**DraftBoy** · 03-31-2008, 02:47 PM

Re: Open Thread: Debate #3-The Final Debate

Originally posted by RockStar36

I did NOT say that it was a choice between A or B. I said that when prioritizing the changes, an actual layout (or in this case paint job) should be at the bottom of the list. You deal with one problem at a time and when one problem is fixed, move to the next one.

But that doesnt make any sense given that (and granted my understanding of vbulletin is probably less then yours) that this upgrade will close some serious security holes that we currently have open. Also with giving the zone added features. As far as the layout thing I agree that can go down to the bottom. But addressing the content of the BZ itself will take a lot of time, while an upgrade may only take a day or two with a few days-weeks of more time to work out the bugs. Ideally I think Devin and Dude are handling the upgrade so why cant the mods work at the same time to improve the content in the best way we can through moderation and posting? I guess I dont understand why the two things can't be done at the same time essentially.

**RockStar36** · 03-31-2008, 02:51 PM

Re: Open Thread: Debate #3-The Final Debate

Originally posted by DraftBoy

But that doesnt make any sense given that (and granted my understanding of vbulletin is probably less then yours) that this upgrade will close some serious security holes that we currently have open. Also with giving the zone added features. As far as the layout thing I agree that can go down to the bottom. But addressing the content of the BZ itself will take a lot of time, while an upgrade may only take a day or two with a few days-weeks of more time to work out the bugs. Ideally I think Devin and Dude are handling the upgrade so why cant the mods work at the same time to improve the content in the best way we can through moderation and posting? I guess I dont understand why the two things can't be done at the same time essentially.

Because we're far to busy arguing about an internet election.

**DraftBoy** · 03-31-2008, 02:52 PM

Re: Open Thread: Debate #3-The Final Debate

Originally posted by RockStar36

Because we're far to busy arguing about an internet election.

That ends in a matter of days, so why cant we do these things at the same time?

**Gunzlingr** · 03-31-2008, 02:54 PM

Re: Open Thread: Debate #3-The Final Debate

Ever notice that Playa is never the one to address these issues?

Seems like the candidate himself would have some sort of imput by what he meant instead of having a third party tell us what he meant.

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