I see where the Bills could win the AFC East.

[HHURRICANE]

The Pats have the worst of both worlds coming into this season. They are an undefeated team so every team is going to still want to beat them. But they have the hangover and enormous let down of losing the SB. In other words teams are going to be up for a team that might not be up to play them.

The Bills need players like Trent, Lynch, Poz and Stroud to deliver this year. If this happens I can see us winning the division out right.

Yes, alot of things have to come together. I think Fred Jackson, Mitchell, Hardy, Simpson and others have a say in this as well.

There is no reason to believe that we can't sweep the fins and split with the Jets and Pats. 4-6 in our own division and 6-7 wins with every one else.

[Typ0]

The Pats have the worst of both worlds coming into this season. They are an undefeated team so every team is going to still want to beat them. But they have the hangover and enormous let down of losing the SB. In other words teams are going to be up for a team that might not be up to play them.

The Bills need players like Trent, Lynch, Poz and Stroud to deliver this year. If this happens I can see us winning the division out right.

Yes, alot of things have to come together. I think Fred Jackson, Mitchell, Hardy, Simpson and others have a say in this as well.

There is no reason to believe that we can't sweep the fins and split with the Jets and Pats. 4-6 in our own division and 6-7 wins with every one else.

with any good luck...all the stakeholders are just waiting until there is a week left in training camp to lower the boom on the cheaters. Hit them while it hurts and don't give them time to prepare to recover.

[HHURRICANE]

with any good luck...all the stakeholders are just waiting until there is a week left in training camp to lower the boom on the cheaters. Hit them while it hurts and don't give them time to prepare to recover.

The Pats can't repeat last year's performance. I just see this as a year where they fall down. A fall for them might be 10-6.

[Typ0]

we're much better off if they are decimated instead of just tripping over a branch.

[shelby]

i would love to see that happen......the Cheatriots have some karma headed their way....but for me, anything better than 7-9 is a big improvement for the Bills, and if we could get a wildcard playoff spot, i would be very pleased.

[justasportsfan]

The Pats have the worst of both worlds coming into this season. They are an undefeated team so every team is going to still want to beat them. But they have the hangover and enormous let down of losing the SB. In other words teams are going to be up for a team that might not be up to play them.

The Bills need players like Trent, Lynch, Poz and Stroud to deliver this year. If this happens I can see us winning the division out right.

Yes, alot of things have to come together. I think Fred Jackson, Mitchell, Hardy, Simpson and others have a say in this as well.

There is no reason to believe that we can't sweep the fins and split with the Jets and Pats. 4-6 in our own division and 6-7 wins with every one else.

HH,with all due respect , not trying to smack or hijack your thread , But isn't this a huge contrast to what you felt weeks ago when you stated if we're serious about playoffs we needed to draft a DE and bring in wr vets?

Winning the division is a huge step forward of making wild card which you questioned in the past. You went from sky is falling to borderline homeristic

[Typ0]

winning the division might just be our way into the playoffs...and the way to do it is to beat the Pats at least once.

[Bone]

If our starters and new players play as hard as they can like the back ups did last year and with a very much improved defense there should be no excuse for us not making the playoffs or having our playoff hopes come down to the last game of the year.

[HHURRICANE]

HH,with all due respect , not trying to smack or hijack your thread , But isn't this a huge contrast to what you felt weeks ago when you stated if we're serious about playoffs we needed to draft a DE and bring in wr vets?

Winning the division is a huge step forward of making wild card which you questioned in the past. You went from sky is falling to borderline homeristic

It's hard to respond to this when you constantly are taking things out of context.

The DE argument was almost 8 weeks ago and was specific to grabbing a top DE if he was availble when we picked. We know what happened at #8 so why do you keep bringing it up other than to argue for the sake of arguing.

The thread says it's possible if the Pats take a dump.

[Dr. Lecter]

As somebody that is as optimistic as anybody here, even I think a division title is highly unlikely.

There is too much of a talent and experience gap between Buffalo and New England for this to happen. I would love it and the home playoff game(s) that would come with it though.

[jamze132]

winning the division might just be our way into the playoffs...and the way to do it is to beat the Pats at least once.

Yeah, there's a slim chance of us making the playoffs if we can win the division...

[feelthepain]

The Pats have the worst of both worlds coming into this season. They are an undefeated team so every team is going to still want to beat them. But they have the hangover and enormous let down of losing the SB. In other words teams are going to be up for a team that might not be up to play them.

The Bills need players like Trent, Lynch, Poz and Stroud to deliver this year. If this happens I can see us winning the division out right.

Yes, alot of things have to come together. I think Fred Jackson, Mitchell, Hardy, Simpson and others have a say in this as well.

There is no reason to believe that we can't sweep the fins and split with the Jets and Pats. 4-6 in our own division and 6-7 wins with every one else.

Wasn't it you that told me most Bill fans have a realistic view of their team? Now you're making a claim for the AFC East title? This is what you call realistic?

[PECKERWOOD]

I wish I was this ignorant, the Bills are NOT going to win the AFC East.

[HHURRICANE]

Wasn't it you that told me most Bill fans have a realistic view of their team? Now you're making a claim for the AFC East title? This is what you call realistic?

I said things have to fall into place, players have to step up, and I'm assuming a drop off from the Pats.

I didn't guarantee anything. I see 9 wins right now. However, 2 more wins is possible.

[HHURRICANE]

Wasn't it you that told me most Bill fans have a realistic view of their team? Now you're making a claim for the AFC East title? This is what you call realistic?

The thread says "could" not "will".

[feelthepain]

The thread says "could" not "will".

Realistically, the Bills are nowheres near close to "could"!

[HHURRICANE]

Realistically, the Bills are nowheres near close to "could"!

Why?

[TacklingDummy]

Why?

1st year O.C.

QB situation.

7 wins last year were against turd teams.

Miami/Jets improved this off-season.

Alot of question marks on the D-line.

10 years of stinkage.

How much of an impact do rookies make? Poz, Hardy, McLovin will need to make immediate impact.

The 3 white guys playing DE are overrated.

[gr8slayer]

The Bills winning the division is extremely unlikely but odder things have happened. All it takes is a season ending injury to someone like Brady and the tables will quickly turn.

As of right now our biggest threat outside of the Pats is the Jets and I think that we can at least tie the series with them if not take it. Like I've said before; it all depends on whether or not Edwards is ready to start playing like a real NFL QB. That's not to say that he has to be Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, but if he can move into that tier just under them with the Roethlisbergers and Eli Mannings of the world then we might be able to make something happen.

[gr8slayer]

1st year O.C.
Your point?
QB situation.
Your point?
7 wins last year were against turd teams.
What happened last year has no bearing on what happens this year.
Miami/Jets improved this off-season.
We were better than both of them last season and have made improvements as well.
Alot of question marks on the D-line.
Really? I see nothing but improvement.
10 years of stinkage.
Has no bearing on this year.
How much of an impact do rookies make? Poz, Hardy, McLovin will need to make immediate impact.
Posluszny isn't a rookie.
The 3 white guys playing DE are overrated.
Since when does the color of one's skin have anything to do with how good of a football player they are?