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The last two lines of this story scare me the most..
"Tennessee last month signed its top, young left tackle, Michael Roos, to a six-year, $43 million deal, averaging $7.1 million a year. Roos is not considered Peters’ equal."
On one hand.. He still has three years left on his contract. On the other hand, in regards to his peers at left tackle, he is GROSSLY underpaid.
I think its going to take between 8-10 million per year to extend him and prevent a very ugly situation that could become a distraction to the team.
And anyone who says let him sit out can forget about the playoffs.. Because you're crazy if you think this offense is going anywhere with Chambers starting.
As greedy as the players sound in these things, I tend to side with them more. The NFL is the only major sport where contracts are NOT guarenteed. They can be cut or asked to take severe paycuts when they don't live up to their contract. So why shouldn't they go after more upfront money when they've clearly outpeformed their contract.
If Michael Freekin Roos can get $7.1 per year, and couple that with Peters being our best linemen, but only the third highest paid OL on this team, and this could get real ugly.
And I dont buy the "honor the contract" statement. Like I said, team owners don't.. They cut and force paycuts to players all the time.. It's a business unfortunately, and Peters is a hot, and irreplacable commodity right now, especially only being 26 years old.
It was a beautiful day at Ralph Wilson Stadium on Wednesday. The sun was shining and the players were going through their paces on the field. From the looks of things all would seem to be well in the Buffalo Bills’ world.
But it isn’t.
This has hardly been an uneventful offseason for the Bills. They have dealt with accusations that rookie wide receiver James Hardy wielded a firearm and running back Marshawn Lynch’s prolonged silence about his possible involvement in a hit-and-run incident. Even the team’s public address announcer is in legal trouble.
And then there’s the matter of Jason Peters. The All-Pro left tackle decided against gracing the Bills with his presence throughout the 13 days of voluntary workouts and he was a no-show at the first day of a three-day mandatory minicamp Wednesday.
Peters wants a new contract, and he’s staying away until he gets one. Coach Dick Jauron was surprised by Peters’ absence. He shouldn’t have been.
Holdouts are a common occurrence in the NFL, especially during the spring. Peters not being here right now is really not that big a deal. The Bills know when — or if — he shows up he will be in shape and ready to play.
However, the Bills can’t let this thing drag into training camp. What might have happened with Hardy and Lynch was out of the Bills’ control. But they can determine how long Peters is out.
Look, I get that Peters still has three years left on a contract he signed in 2006 and the Bills are under no obligation to give him another red cent.
But if the Bills really believe they are ready to make a serious push toward becoming a playoff participant, they need their best players on board.
Peters is one of the Bills’ best players and clearly the best offensive lineman they’ve got. But the best offensive lineman on a team shouldn’t be the thirdhighest paid at the position
It looks like the Bills are gonna play hardball on this one. I would think that if there were contract re-negotiations taking place Peters would be there.
another peice by Allen Wilson from Today's Buffalo News..
Look, I get that Peters still has three years left on a contract he signed in 2006 and the Bills are under no obligation to give him another red cent.
But if the Bills really believe they are ready to make a serious push toward becoming a playoff participant, they need their best players on board.
Peters is one of the Bills’ best players and clearly the best offensive lineman they’ve got. But the best offensive lineman on a team shouldn’t be the thirdhighest paid at the position
Doesn't Peters have an obligation to his team and team mates? What does he have to say? Has he been in contact with the Bills in regard to contract negotiations? Have the Bills rejected any possibility of renegotiation?
Maybe if he were to come out publicly and let us know what he is expecting we wouldn't be so pissed about his being a no show.
Obviously his not being in camp is a very public statement but how about some details?
Peters really can't hold out for the season. Anytime he holds out will not count against his deal, so he will just be losing time on his career and the ~4 million he is due to receive this year.
Fact is he needs to realize that the Bills have two players they need to get signed first (Evans and Crowell) because those two are entering the last year of their deals. What is most disappointing is that in recent year the Bills have extended players like Moorman and Schobel before the deals were up. So they have shown a willingness to do so (especiallly for Pro Bowl players), without a guy missing manditory team activities.
If he wants a new deal, I am fine with that and understand it. But man-up, come into camp and let nature take its course. Let the Bills get the two top priotities done and see where they are money wise and then they can get you hooked up long term.
His approach is leaving a bad taste in my mouth, even if his idea is not.
The Bills are nuts not to ink him aggressively. You can't even find or trade for a good LT even if you wanted to pay him. You don't walk out your front door and go gee today I'll buy a LT. Look how they overpayed for what they have now. He's more important than Evans or Crowell. You simply don't let your all pro linemen walk, ever. Remember Wilford going to Pittsburgh? The beginning of the end.
Lou Saban: You can get it done, you can get it done. And what’s more, you’ve gotta get it done.
Doesn't Peters have an obligation to his team and team mates? What does he have to say? Has he been in contact with the Bills in regard to contract negotiations? Have the Bills rejected any possibility of renegotiation?
Maybe if he were to come out publicly and let us know what he is expecting we wouldn't be so pissed about his being a no show.
Obviously his not being in camp is a very public statement but how about some details?
It goes both ways.
Didn't the Bills have an obligation to Eric Moulds? He was under contract on a deal he signed. The Bills forced him to take a pay cut and when he wouldn't, they simply traded him away.
That's my point. .When a contract is too much (that the team signed) or a player UNDERPERFORMS he can get cut or have to give up money.. So when he clearly outperforms his worth as Peters certainly has, why doesnt he have the right to get a better deal?
BTW, also from Wilson's article (for whatever it is worth)
The Bills need to get this deal done, and I suspect they will. Negotiations of this kind take time.
For now, the Bills will proceed without Peters. He’ll be fined, but I don’t think he will mind digging into his pocket as long as the Bills put some dead presidents back in it.
Here's the flip side to the "he-has-three-years-left" issue: The longer the Bills wait, the more they'll have to pay. That News article said the salary cap has gone up 36 percent since 2005. If the Bills sign him now, they may get him at a bargain compared to what he'll want in 2-3 years.
Now may be the only time the Bills can afford him.
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Here's the flip side to the "he-has-three-years-left" issue: The longer the Bills wait, the more they'll have to pay. That News article said the salary cap has gone up 36 percent since 2005. If the Bills sign him now, they may get him at a bargain compared to what he'll want in 2-3 years.
Now may be the only time the Bills can afford him.
Peters really can't hold out for the season. Anytime he holds out will not count against his deal, so he will just be losing time on his career and the ~4 million he is due to receive this year.
Fact is he needs to realize that the Bills have two players they need to get signed first (Evans and Crowell) because those two are entering the last year of their deals. What is most disappointing is that in recent year the Bills have extended players like Moorman and Schobel before the deals were up. So they have shown a willingness to do so (especiallly for Pro Bowl players), without a guy missing manditory team activities.
If he wants a new deal, I am fine with that and understand it. But man-up, come into camp and let nature take its course. Let the Bills get the two top priotities done and see where they are money wise and then they can get you hooked up long term.
His approach is leaving a bad taste in my mouth, even if his idea is not.
he should also show us he can play a full season w/o getting injured. if they are going to dump 8-10 million/year into their LT i'd like to feel comfortable knowing he's going to give us more than 10-12 games every year. he was also undrafted - passed up by 31 other teams. he can honor his contract and wait his turn in line to get paid just like every one else.
that being said, i can understand his resentment. how would you guys feel if your co-workers were getting paid twice as much for essentialy less responsibilty?
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