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So, I dont agree that we shouldnt care about the incident. I care if one of our players is a douche bag. I honestly think this was an accident. And I also think he got about what he should have in punishment, and that we should just move on.... Hes not a drug dealer, a animal abuser, a pedophile, an assalant, a thief, a thug, or a gang banger. Hes a guy who commited a traffic infraction. I have, and almost everyone here has too.
I'll always believe that he was driving drunk and that he knew he hit someone. Call it a "traffic infraction" if you want, but hopefully he has learned something from this situation. The next "traffic infraction" could cause something much more serious.
Probable cause standard. They didn't have it here which is why they had to indict.
If he had been stopped that night after the incident, they would have been probably cause galore. That is the point. He likely would have faced the additional charge of DWI.
IMO, the only special treatment he got was on the night of the incident. The actions of the DA and the plea deal were on par with what anyone would have gotten. I've been saying from the beginning of this that:
1. Lynch was driving
2. The DA would eventually convince him to take a plea
3. He would certainly not see any jail time
4. He shouldn't get a harsher punishment than the average citizen
5. He will not get suspended by the league
On the flip side, the Buffalo Police and DA's office wouldn't have wasted this much time,energy & $$ on this if it was Joe Blow.
Channel 2 kept blathering on about this for days and basically forced the dept. to dig deeper to save face. It became a PR war, more than anything. Local attorneys interviewed said anyone else never would have been charged, given the evidence presented.
Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit
He's young and made a dumb mistake, don't let it happen again. Now go out there and rush for 1600 yards, score TDs on the ground and in the air and make the Pro Bowl! What are you waiting for Beast Mode ? DO IT!!!
If he had been stopped that night after the incident, they would have been probably cause galore. That is the point. He likely would have faced the additional charge of DWI.
IMO, the only special treatment he got was on the night of the incident. The actions of the DA and the plea deal were on par with what anyone would have gotten. I've been saying from the beginning of this that:
1. Lynch was driving
2. The DA would eventually convince him to take a plea
3. He would certainly not see any jail time
4. He shouldn't get a harsher punishment than the average citizen
5. He will not get suspended by the league
Lynch didn't receive special treatment, period. He wasn't caught drunk driving (and to be caught and arrested for drunk driving TD, you need to either be tested and found with a BAL above the legal limit or refuse to take the test) and no one could definitively identify the driver, without either of the occupants of the car talking, which they didn't do because the constitution allows them to remain silent. And it's not like they were going to break down the door if it were you, versus not in Lynch's case, because it would constitute an illegal search and seizure, without a warrant. But again, not knowing who the driver was, there was no cause for a warrant to be issued. Hence the need for the DA to resort to threatening everyone with a grand jury.
As for Lynch being drunk at the time, there's no proof of that at all. In fact one witness said she saw him drinking water all night. And that's all the evidence we have, and it points in the other direction, although no one's claiming she watched him all night long.
Lynch didn't receive special treatment, period. He wasn't caught drunk driving (and to be caught and arrested for drunk driving TD, you need to either be tested and found with a BAL above the legal limit or refuse to take the test) and no one could definitively identify the driver, without either of the occupants of the car talking, which they didn't do because the constitution allows them to remain silent. And it's not like they were going to break down the door if it were you, versus not in Lynch's case, because it would constitute an illegal search and seizure, without a warrant. But again, not knowing who the driver was, there was no cause for a warrant to be issued. Hence the need for the DA to resort to threatening everyone with a grand jury.
As for Lynch being drunk at the time, there's no proof of that at all. In fact one witness said she saw him drinking water all night. And that's all the evidence we have, and it points in the other direction, although no one's claiming she watched him all night long.
Awesome post
“You hold a players only meeting and get each guy to stand up and say what he can bring to the table... and if he doesn't, you punch him in the face.” ~~ Harry Neale, on how to fix the Sabres season.
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