Does anyone think Miami has a "crap" O-Line

[PECKERWOOD]

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I'm not sure about Smiley, but initially the rest of the line's strengths seems to be at the running game (especially with Carey) which is also where the offensive game plan seems to be geared for--power running game. We just have to hope that we'll have a QB that will make the D somewhat honest, but it's been a little shaky for the QBs so far into the 1st week's worth of training camps.

Call it simply a gut feeling, since this early at the stage who really knows, but as far as fantasy football goes, I really think some people should take a late-late pick for Ricky Williams. Even though Dolphins fans have been burned before (no pun intended) it seems like he's finally got his head clear (still no pun intended, lol) and may be getting back to his old self--not 1,800+ rushing title old self, but I think he's going to surprise some people. On the Ronnie Brown side, he's taking contact and seems to be really on the road to recovery, but I think they're going to gradually get him back in the game, but until that time I really think Williams will be an assett (boy that's weird typing that) and our rookie RB Parmele has been having a great camp, albeit it's only been one week.

Also, shouldn't this be in the NFL section?

I agree with you 100%, even about Ricky. I've always thought the man could play football, he just couldn't stay clean. I could see him getting ,1,100-1,200 yards or so but that is only if Ronnie Brown can't tote the pigskin. I will say this though.. Miami ****ed up considerably again. What's with giving away good players to divisional rivals? Wes Welker and now Chatman? Kind of ballsy especially after Ronnie Brown is coming back from a torn ACL.

[mysticsoto]

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Satele, Carey and Smiley are all established in this league. But ok, mystic. I see your point

Well, though it was probably obvious to everyone else who I was talking about, except you, I will state the obvious and say I was talking about your new left tackle there...

[TigerJ]

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I agree with PatMoran. The Dolphins have the makings of a decent line. Long would be unusual if he can perform like a veteran out of the gate though. Miami's real problem on offense is the lack of a fixture at QB. Maybe somewone will emerge, but I hink at best they are going to be where Buffalo was at the end of last season. Buffalo found their QB, but he was a rookie, and played like it at times. If Miami can settle on someone, they may be ready to start doing some damage in 2009, but I'm not too worried about 2008.

[!Papacrunk!]

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I agree with PatMoran. The Dolphins have the makings of a decent line. Long would be unusual if he can perform like a veteran out of the gate though. Miami's real problem on offense is the lack of a fixture at QB. Maybe somewone will emerge, but I hink at best they are going to be where Buffalo was at the end of last season. Buffalo found their QB, but he was a rookie, and played like it at times. If Miami can settle on someone, they may be ready to start doing some damage in 2009, but I'm not too worried about 2008.

the amount that Beck has been struggling (since it's a bit disheartening since he put so much time in the offseason for improvement) I'm wondering if Henne will have to be that rookie that takes over like Edwards did

[Ed]

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I said educated fans, not

BleedinGreenNC, clumping platelets, Ed, Homegrown, Jaybird, MLynch23, mysticsoto

Bling, you're the only person who thinks your O-line is great, so you seem to be the least educated here.

Every year fin fans think their Oline has improved and is going to be good and it's been crap for years. Until they prove otherwise they're still crap. Even if the talent has improved, it's still going to take time to come together and you have a rookie at the most important position. Even with improvement, this line scares no one.

[feelthepain]

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I agree with PatMoran. The Dolphins have the makings of a decent line. Long would be unusual if he can perform like a veteran out of the gate though. Miami's real problem on offense is the lack of a fixture at QB. Maybe somewone will emerge, but I hink at best they are going to be where Buffalo was at the end of last season. Buffalo found their QB, but he was a rookie, and played like it at times. If Miami can settle on someone, they may be ready to start doing some damage in 2009, but I'm not too worried about 2008.

I don't know how you can say Buffalo has found their QB. Have you forgotten about JP and Rob Johnson that quickly? Both were also thought to be the answer, infact last year at this time 90% of Bill fans were 100% sure JP would take that next step and look what happened. I know Bill fans are desperate for that sepepration they think they already have over the Dolphins and Jets. But I don't think Trent is anywheres close to where he needs to be to play at this level without concern. Bill fans may think so, but that's hardly proof it's true. I also don't see the Bills ahead in this imaginary rebuilding thing Bill fans keep telling everyone they have. There's is far more to it then youth getting one year of experience under their belts. Your coaching is still a huge question mark...HUGE!

[JerseyBoofaloBills]

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I don't know how you can say Buffalo has found their QB. Have you forgotten about JP and Rob Johnson that quickly? Both were also thought to be the answer, infact last year at this time 90% of Bill fans were 100% sure JP would take that next step and look what happened. I know Bill fans are desperate for that sepepration they think they already have over the Dolphins and Jets. But I don't think Trent is anywheres close to where he needs to be to play at this level without concern. Bill fans may think so, but that's hardly proof it's true. I also don't see the Bills ahead in this imaginary rebuilding thing Bill fans keep telling everyone they have. There's is far more to it then youth getting one year of experience under their belts. Your coaching is still a huge question mark...HUGE!

Jauron has proved that he can coach a team with 19 guys on IR to a 7-9 record..now i can only imagine what he can do with a healthy squad an a slightly better defense..and as of TE not being proven..man is 5-4 as a started..not too shabby in my opinion..but considering you know everything, it's not enough right? i mean your quarterback has only won one game right? so it clearly shows that he's not that distant from Beck right? But this is talking about Dolphins O-Line, not QB's..somehow you always change the subject an start bashing on bills fans for thinking they have a good team..you're a joke.

Why cant you take after, Bling, static, papacrunk,Lt..

They actually talk about football..and know what they're talking about.

[Bling]

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Well, though it was probably obvious to everyone else who I was talking about, except you, I will state the obvious and say I was talking about your new left tackle there...

One thing I've noticed about you, mystic, is that you have big articulation problems. Whether it's in the spin zone or the billszone, you might want to add those extra words to leave out the confusion.

[Bling]

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So everyone who disagrees with you is uneducated?

Tell me, are you a product of the Florida school system? I am. But I'm badass.

That was pretty good, jamze.

[Goobylal]

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I don't know how you can say Buffalo has found their QB. Have you forgotten about JP and Rob Johnson that quickly? Both were also thought to be the answer, infact last year at this time 90% of Bill fans were 100% sure JP would take that next step and look what happened. I know Bill fans are desperate for that sepepration they think they already have over the Dolphins and Jets. But I don't think Trent is anywheres close to where he needs to be to play at this level without concern. Bill fans may think so, but that's hardly proof it's true. I also don't see the Bills ahead in this imaginary rebuilding thing Bill fans keep telling everyone they have. There's is far more to it then youth getting one year of experience under their belts. Your coaching is still a huge question mark...HUGE!

And yours isn't? Your head coach has only been a head coach at tiny University of New Haven. The highest position he's held is TE/OL coach. And before you say that he must be good because Parcells picked him, go look up the names of Ray Handley and Al Groh. Then you have first-time DC Paul Pasqualoni. The only principal coach who has some experience with his position is OC Dan Henning, a guy who has a bad rep among Bills fans.

But even with the Bills' QB issues last year, they still managed to sweep the Dols and Jets. Now Edwards has a year under his belt, the defense has been improved, the offense added some weapons, and the injured players are back. The Jets made some additions and should be tougher. A sweep will be harder for the Bills. However the Dols have too many problems right now to expect them to win many more games than last year.

[feelthepain]

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Jauron has proved that he can coach a team with 19 guys on IR to a 7-9 record..now i can only imagine what he can do with a healthy squad an a slightly better defense...

He's also porven he can take a healthy Bills team and lead them to a 7-9 record. As the Bills head coach he's 4 games below 500. in just 2 seasons. I'd say he has a huge question mark...HUGE!!

as of TE not being proven..man is 5-4 as a started..not too shabby in my opinion..but considering you know everything, it's not enough right? i mean your quarterback has only won one game right? so it clearly shows that he's not that distant from Beck right?

5-4 is hardly a reason to believe TE OR ANYONE could be a proven QB. How could anyone believe their QB is proven in just 9 games in which they have more INT's then TD's? It's truly amazing how Bill fans look at the world, their players are intant stars, instant winners, instantly successful however everyone else in the league needs to win a SB while playing with one hand tied behind their back and hopping up and down on one leg before giving them enough credit to be a backup.

i mean your quarterback has only won one game right? so it clearly shows that he's not that distant from Beck right?

I'm not saying Beck is anything...YET! Unlike Bill fans I would like to see my QB win more games then he loses and throw more TD's the int's for a couple of seasons with a steady incline before I claim my team has found their future. Bill fans call every QB they have a stud and a star, EVERY YEAR!

so it clearly shows that he's not that distant from Beck right?

Both QB's have played part of a season, both are just entering their second season, neither has played on a winning team, however Bill fans see very little success in their QB and call him a star, Dolphin fans see very little success in JB and are still waiting to call him a star or failure. So one group is realistic (Dolphin fans) and the other is desperate (Bill fans).

But this is talking about Dolphins O-Line, not QB's..somehow you always change the subject an start bashing on bills fans for thinking they have a good team..you're a joke.

How did I change the subject when I was quoting someone else and asking them a question about QB's? Obviously I'm not the one who starting talking about the QB's. But you'd know this if you didn't hate people who simply don't respect your crap team because they don't deserve it.

Why cant you take after, Bling, static, papacrunk,Lt..

They actually talk about football..and know what they're talking about.

Why can't you grow up and accept the fact that your team simply sucks and until they prove differently will continue to suck? Just because they didn't have as bad a season in the wins, and loses as Miami doesn't mean they didn't suck! I also know what I'm talking about, prove where I post one post that doesn't have factual stats in it...JUST ONE!!! I always use facts in my posts, you just want everyone to ignore the facts when talking about the Bills.

[mysticsoto]

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One thing I've noticed about you, mystic, is that you have big articulation problems. Whether it's in the spin zone or the billszone, you might want to add those extra words to leave out the confusion.

As I said, it was likely obvious to everyone else except you...if you think that the Miami Oline is GREAT despite them even having played one game together as a unit, then clearly you have the rose colored blinders on...and something in common with FTP.

[Bling]

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As I said, it was likely obvious to everyone else except you...if you think that the Miami Oline is GREAT despite them even having played one game together as a unit, then clearly you have the rose colored blinders on...and something in common with FTP.

Goes both ways, mystic. If you think they're a crap O-line after the top 12 performance they had last year, you've got the rose colored blinders... and something in common with yordad.

[THATHURMANATOR]

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If Long Pans out you will have a pretty good o line.

[justasportsfan]

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Goes both ways, mystic. If you think they're a crap O-line after the top 12 performance they had last year, you've got the rose colored blinders... and something in common with yordad.

Bling ,you accept being in the same class with FTP? YIkes.