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Originally Posted by mysticsoto
I think it's a very close call between Bruce and OJ. I'll go with Bruce.
Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?
Tom Sestak
i agree very close between bruce and OJ.
just think if OJ had 16 games to play instead of 14 when he rushed for 2000 yards he may have ran for 2300.
and bruce is by far the best modern day bill. we will be lucky to have a talent like him again.
I saw it the same... between Bruce and OJ. I had to give it to the juice.
I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
"Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
It was all true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.
I went with Jimbo.. I think he's the best, not because of numbers--- but because his ability and his swagger completely changed the culture of the entire organization once he came to town.
Odd- I was going to start the same exact thread.
But the answer is Bruce- hands down. Kelly and OJ are the only other ones who warrant consideration. If you're talking all-time best at a position, Reggie White and Bruce Smith are ALWAYS 1 and 2. No other Bill has earned that kind of respect. As good as Kelly and OJ were, no one would ever say they're the best or second best all time at their position.
BJ Hobert
Deacon Jones gets top consideration most of the time (just a note, I do see your point).
"Greatest Bill" is ambiguous. This is tough. I do think it is between OJ, Bruce, Kelly, and maybe even Thomas. I think Kelly had a bigger impact then any single Bill during the SB days. The year OJ broke 2000 yards, they didn't even win the devision. Not only did Jimbo put up numbers, he demanded results, respect, and teammate's best efforts. He ran the K-gun. He led the Bills to four straight AFC championships.
Kelly was a first ballot NFL Hall of Fame inductee. And, he was the face of the franchise for over a decade. The leader of the Bills, on and off the field.
Jim Kelly
"Heck, now I am glad his overrated arce made the pro bowl, else we would have only got a 3rd." ~ yordad
"I've just been hit with a piece of sky." ~ yordad
"Forgive my opinion, but...." ~ yordad
"Warning: I might be hammered." ~ yordad
"I don't care if the word is "your" or "you're", so buzz off. Its (it's) a frickin(') message board." ~ yordad
BTW, I believe it was in 2002 when I was working with Buffalo Sports Report, I remember we did a story counting down the 30 greatest Bills of all-time. A panel of people were polled, including former coaches, players and writers. I can't remember the entire list, and I'm not even sure where to find it (I'll look) but it was a really good read, and I do remember the top four. Thurman Thomas was fourth, Jim Kelly was third, Bruce Smith was second and OJ was first.
Maybe it's because I was in 1st-4th grades during the Superbowl years but Jim Kelly is ALWAYS going to be the face of the Bills for me.
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Re: Who is the Greatest Bill of all time?
Juuuuuuuice!!!
"Expect rejection, but expect more to overcome it."
***Marv Levy.***
"Coach Levy is one of the most inspirational people that I have ever known."
***Thurman Thomas.***
"You're not going to find a more classier, down-to-Earth person away from the field than Marv Levy. He's a guy who's pretty much made me what I am today as far as a professional player and a person."
***Jim Kelly***
i dont think we go to those superbowl back to back to back to back without thurman
Open Jugular...errr I mean OJ.
on pure onfield talent- I would say OJ.
If the 1975 Bills offense and the 1965 Bills defense were combined, they would have beaten all comers in either era in either league
As Thurman goes... so goes the Buffalo Bills!
Thurman Thomas was AMAZING!
Last edited by coastal; 08-05-2008 at 05:27 PM.
Toss-up for me between OJ, Bruce Smith and Jim Kelly. Went with the Juice!
I like Thurman.
Bills would have won SBXXV if Kelly had passed less; and Thurman had run more.
i have to go with Bruce over OJ. i'm fortunate to see both play for the Bills too. a lot of people only remember OJ for the death of his wife, which is very sad. some of us old timers remember his feat of rushing for 2003 yards in 14 games.
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