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    Not Challenging The 4th And Inches Spot

    can someone please explain this to me. I thought that was the game right there and it was very early. I was very upset this spot did not get challenged and then a few plays later a clear catch was challenged. Someone make sense of this travestry of this for me please.

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    Re: Not Challenging The 4th And Inches Spot

    I wondered the same thing. I thought they got a bad spot and should have at least rolled the dice on it. That was a huge play. Jauron is a bonehead who is in waay too far over his head plain and simple.

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    Re: Not Challenging The 4th And Inches Spot

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    Re: Not Challenging The 4th And Inches Spot

    The Bills got plenty of generous spots yesterday. We just sucked, plain and simple.

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    Re: Not Challenging The 4th And Inches Spot

    That would have been a good challenge. In addition, there was a TV time-out on the change of possession so there was PLENTY of time to review it.

    The catch was a stupid challenge, and very impulsive.

    That's why he's 1-6 on the year.

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    Re: Not Challenging The 4th And Inches Spot

    Quote Originally Posted by HHURRICANE
    The Bills got plenty of generous spots yesterday. We just sucked, plain and simple.
    all the spots didn't matter like this one. We're talking about seven points here really. It's pathetic we can't demand those yards but still I thought the spot clearly should have been reviewed...especially with jaron admitting he challenges when he feels like taking a chance. Only an idiot wouldn't challenge this play...and it's like they scrambled and poorly challenged that catch a few plays later to hopefully make up for their boneheadedness.

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    Re: Not Challenging The 4th And Inches Spot

    Quote Originally Posted by Typ0
    all the spots didn't matter like this one. We're talking about seven points here really. It's pathetic we can't demand those yards but still I thought the spot clearly should have been reviewed...especially with jaron admitting he challenges when he feels like taking a chance. Only an idiot wouldn't challenge this play...and it's like they scrambled and poorly challenged that catch a few plays later to hopefully make up for their boneheadedness.
    We were destined to lose this game when:

    a) Any smart coach would have put the 3 points on the board from the 7 yard line to make it a 3 point game.

    b) Not tried an incredibly stupid fake punt, deep in our own end, only down by 6 with plenty of time on the clock.

    c) Making sure that Trent undertsands that getting any points in the red-zone is better than taking a chance and giving the other team 7.

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    Re: Not Challenging The 4th And Inches Spot

    Quote Originally Posted by HHURRICANE
    We were destined to lose this game when:

    a) Any smart coach would have put the 3 points on the board from the 7 yard line to make it a 3 point game.

    b) Not tried an incredibly stupid fake punt, deep in our own end, only down by 6 with plenty of time on the clock.

    c) Making sure that Trent undertsands that getting any points in the red-zone is better than taking a chance and giving the other team 7.

    I disagree about the fake punt. They didn't just run that to be risky. They saw a way to exploit the JESTS and they did that. Too bad there was a penalty.

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    Re: Not Challenging The 4th And Inches Spot

    Quote Originally Posted by Typ0
    I disagree about the fake punt. They didn't just run that to be risky. They saw a way to exploit the JESTS and they did that. Too bad there was a penalty.
    That play was inches from giving the Jets the game early in the 3rd QTR. Maybe the dumbest call of the year.

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    Re: Not Challenging The 4th And Inches Spot

    Quote Originally Posted by Typ0
    I disagree about the fake punt. They didn't just run that to be risky. They saw a way to exploit the JESTS and they did that. Too bad there was a penalty.
    You realize that play gave the Jets the ball back at mid-field which allowed them to make it a two score game?

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    Re: Not Challenging The 4th And Inches Spot

    Quote Originally Posted by HHURRICANE
    You realize that play gave the Jets the ball back at mid-field which allowed them to make it a two score game?
    Um... you mean after the fake punt worked (well, would have)?

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    Re: Not Challenging The 4th And Inches Spot

    Quote Originally Posted by HHURRICANE
    You realize that play gave the Jets the ball back at mid-field which allowed them to make it a two score game?
    we basically ended up punting after that mess didn't we?

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    Re: Not Challenging The 4th And Inches Spot

    Quote Originally Posted by HHURRICANE
    You realize that play gave the Jets the ball back at mid-field which allowed them to make it a two score game?
    No it didn't. You talk like they didn't get the first down on that fake punt. The only reason it wasn't a first down for the Bills was because there was a penalty on the play. The reason they ended up at midfield was because Morman shanked the punt, plain and simple.

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    Re: Not Challenging The 4th And Inches Spot

    Quote Originally Posted by Typ0
    we basically ended up punting after that mess didn't we?
    Yes. Due to the fact we called a fake punt that would have worked we ended up punting anyways, thus proving the fake punt was a dumb call.

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    Re: Not Challenging The 4th And Inches Spot

    They rarely, if ever, overturn spot calls on challenges. It's not worth doing it because it would have just been a wasted TO. They overturned that one on moorman, but it couldn't have been more clear. Not to mention, it was a full two yards. If the ref spotted it just short of the 1st down marker, maybe only half a yard, they still wouldn't have overturned it.

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    Re: Not Challenging The 4th And Inches Spot

    It would have been brilliance if the penalty hadn't ocurred.

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    Re: Not Challenging The 4th And Inches Spot

    Quote Originally Posted by yordad
    Yes. Due to the fact we called a fake punt that would have worked we ended up punting anyways, thus proving the fake punt was a dumb call.

    it wasn't a dumb call because we got a penalty. It's the penalty that was dumb.

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    Re: Not Challenging The 4th And Inches Spot

    Quote Originally Posted by BuffRanger
    They rarely, if ever, overturn spot calls on challenges. It's not worth doing it because it would have just been a wasted TO. They overturned that one on moorman, but it couldn't have been more clear. Not to mention, it was a full two yards. If the ref spotted it just short of the 1st down marker, maybe only half a yard, they still wouldn't have overturned it.

    I disagree I have seen spots challenged and fixed on many occassions. In this case the challenge is with the spot anyway and the ball was spotted short. If they respot the ball we win the challenge that does not mean we got the first down. You aren't challenging that you got the first down you are challenging where the ball was spotted. You challenge that call and win and they respot the ball in the correct place and then you determine if you got the first down. You won the challenge.

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    Re: Not Challenging The 4th And Inches Spot

    the no challenge lost us then game, then and there. it was clearly a first down. I was in the nose bleeds and could still see it. jauron is a dumbass.

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