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  • Devin
    The Octagon
    • Apr 2003
    • 23878
    #1

    The Bills problems arent tied to...

    any one player or position. What I mean to say is, yes we have needs and yes we can improve. But our problems are at the top.

    Until we have a capable front office and certainly not until we have a sound coaching staff, we simply will not succeed. Teams like Atlanta and the Dolphins prove as much.

    Trade this player, trade that one.......draft this guy.....sign that guy.......its all the same. Ultimately nothing will change here until proper FO/coaching personell are installed. Sadly that may not happen til the post-Ralph era.
    Last edited by Devin; 12-25-2008, 03:10 AM.
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  • OpIv37
    Acid Douching Asswipe
    • Sep 2002
    • 101230
    #2
    Re: The Bills problems arent tied to...

    bingo.

    Depressing, but true.
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    • Ebenezer
      Give me a minute...
      • Jul 2002
      • 73868
      #3
      Re: The Bills problems arent tied to...

      Originally posted by Devin
      The Bills problems are tied to...
      Ralph Wilson

      Go back and review the history - when RW has put a business guy in charge the team sucks; when it has been a football guy they win.




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      • yordad
        Registered User
        • Dec 2007
        • 11867
        #4
        Re: The Bills problems arent tied to...

        I am in the Nile.
        "Heck, now I am glad his overrated arce made the pro bowl, else we would have only got a 3rd." ~ yordad

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        • BillsWin
          man amongst boys
          • Oct 2008
          • 6025
          #5
          Re: The Bills problems arent tied to...

          mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm christmas ham...
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          • Yasgur's Farm
            Moderator
            • Feb 2005
            • 7091
            #6
            Re: The Bills problems arent tied to...

            History shows that whenever the Bills have been successful, it's been more a case of Ralph stumbling into it. Take the 90's for example... Ralph promotes a GM from within who turns out to be a football genius... He hires the, up to then, D.J. of the 80's in Marv Levy. They have success until RW decides to start tweaking things... Next thing you know, Polian leaves, Marv retires... Wade Phillips, ......................
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            • Night Train
              Retired - On Several Levels
              • Jul 2005
              • 33117
              #7
              Re: The Bills problems arent tied to...

              Originally posted by Ebenezer
              Ralph Wilson

              Go back and review the history - when RW has put a business guy in charge the team sucks; when it has been a football guy they win.
              Yup.

              Larry Felser wrote a great article about it in Sundays paper.
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              • HHURRICANE
                Registered User
                • Mar 2005
                • 15490
                #8
                Re: The Bills problems arent tied to...

                I actually don't think things are as dire as people think around here.

                A good team is built around a good QB, RB, O-line and D.

                Our D needs DEs and LBs.

                Our O needs a Center and a #2 WR.

                I think we are a real playoff team next year, and maybe a contender in 2 years.

                I think Jauron needs a real GM over him.

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                • Mitchell55
                  only another 1000 mocks due by tomorrow!
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 5214
                  #9
                  Re: The Bills problems arent tied to...

                  The thing im happy about this team is that there isnt a desperate need other than DE. Usually we come in desperatly needing a QB, RB, WR, LB.......
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                  • bflobarry
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 83
                    #10
                    Re: The Bills problems arent tied to...

                    Ralph even stumbled onto Polian: He was an assistant to Terry Bledsoe and Bledsoe died unexpectedly. Polian begat Marv, John Butler and AJ Smith. Since they left, we've had one playoff game, the Music City Screw Job of '99. And what we need on the field is: A dominant DE to pair w/ Schoebel, a play making linebacker, a center, a REAL tight end, and a ball hawking safety. That's a lot to expect in one off season......
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                    • yordad
                      Registered User
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 11867
                      #11
                      Re: The Bills problems arent tied to...

                      Originally posted by HHURRICANE
                      I actually don't think things are as dire as people think around here.

                      A good team is built around a good QB, RB, O-line and D.

                      Our D needs DEs and LBs.

                      Our O needs a Center and a #2 WR.

                      I think we are a real playoff team next year, and maybe a contender in 2 years.

                      I think Jauron needs a real GM over him.
                      The problem is, this is always the problem. We have been 1 to 2 years away for a decade.
                      "Heck, now I am glad his overrated arce made the pro bowl, else we would have only got a 3rd." ~ yordad

                      "I've just been hit with a piece of sky. " ~ yordad

                      "Forgive my opinion, but...." ~ yordad

                      "Warning: I might be hammered." ~ yordad

                      "I don't care if the word is "your" or "you're", so buzz off. Its (it's) a frickin(') message board." ~ yordad
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                      • yordad
                        Registered User
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 11867
                        #12
                        Re: The Bills problems arent tied to...

                        Originally posted by bflobarry
                        And what we need on the field is: A dominant DE to pair w/ Schoebel, a play making linebacker, a center, a REAL tight end, and a ball hawking safety. That's a lot to expect in one off season......
                        Add in the shoring up of a brake out #2RB and a disgruntled overrated LT. NTM a number of young players that are expected to take the "next step": Whitner (again), Hardy, Johnson, McKelvin, Poz, Edwards....

                        That is a whole lot of "shoulds" and "ifs".
                        "Heck, now I am glad his overrated arce made the pro bowl, else we would have only got a 3rd." ~ yordad

                        "I've just been hit with a piece of sky. " ~ yordad

                        "Forgive my opinion, but...." ~ yordad

                        "Warning: I might be hammered." ~ yordad

                        "I don't care if the word is "your" or "you're", so buzz off. Its (it's) a frickin(') message board." ~ yordad

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                        • Mitchy moo
                          Roways rooking ahread!
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 18380
                          #13
                          Re: The Bills problems arent tied to...

                          Originally posted by Ebenezer
                          Ralph Wilson

                          Go back and review the history - when RW has put a business guy in charge the team sucks; when it has been a football guy they win.
                          When the football guy wins and it takes the spotlight off Ralph, he fires the football guy.

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                          • yordad
                            Registered User
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 11867
                            #14
                            Re: The Bills problems arent tied to...

                            Originally posted by Skooby
                            When the football guy wins and it takes the spotlight off Ralph, he fires the football guy.
                            Skoobs, IMO, that's a reach, and makes little sense.
                            "Heck, now I am glad his overrated arce made the pro bowl, else we would have only got a 3rd." ~ yordad

                            "I've just been hit with a piece of sky. " ~ yordad

                            "Forgive my opinion, but...." ~ yordad

                            "Warning: I might be hammered." ~ yordad

                            "I don't care if the word is "your" or "you're", so buzz off. Its (it's) a frickin(') message board." ~ yordad
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                            • jamze132
                              Don’t hate…
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 29295
                              #15
                              Re: The Bills problems arent tied to...

                              Originally posted by HHURRICANE
                              I actually don't think things are as dire as people think around here.
                              Dude, we are staring three straight 7-9 seasons in the face...

                              I would say that's pretty bad.
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