What do you have to say about Vanek now?

**SabreEleven** · 03-20-2008, 05:54 PM

Re: What do you have to say about Vanek now?

but he folded like a cheap suit in the playoffs last year....

**TheGhostofJimKelly** · 03-20-2008, 06:10 PM

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Someone told me this stat about Vanek today. 17 of his goals were against teams that are not currently in the playoffs. I am not trying to say anything negative or positive, just thought that was a little interesting.

**Dr. Lecter** · 03-20-2008, 06:22 PM

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Originally posted by TheGhostofJimKelly

Someone told me this stat about Vanek today. 17 of his goals were against teams that are not currently in the playoffs. I am not trying to say anything negative or positive, just thought that was a little interesting.

That makes sense. About half of goals and about half of the teams make the playoffs.

**Nighthawk** · 03-20-2008, 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by OpIv37

hey had one good month plus one good game.

Going into tonight, he had 2 points in the last 9 games.

you're living in the moment and not taking his full season into account. BTW, unless he gets 12 points in the next 8 games, he's BEHIND where he was last year. Considering he's only averaged .42 points per game, it's highly unlikely that he's going to triple that and average 1.5 ppg over the last 8. He's supposed to be the new leader, but he's behind where he was last year- instead of taking charge, he's regressing.

Please think before posting next time.

Losman has a tendency not to understand things...

**Typ0** · 03-20-2008, 10:19 PM

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You folks are nuts. The Sabres are a top knotch club and there is not a whole lot of reasonable comparison between Vanek and Satan.

JD · 03-21-2008, 02:00 AM

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Sarcasm right?

**Typ0** · 03-21-2008, 05:58 AM

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not at all. It's BS to compare Vanek to Satan.

**SabreEleven** · 03-21-2008, 06:33 AM

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Originally posted by Typ0

You folks are nuts. The Sabres are a top knotch club and there is not a whole lot of reasonable comparison between Vanek and Satan.

If you mean top "notch" club who is goes on serious losing streaks through out the year and fighting for thier playoff lives with a very realistic chance of NOT making the playoffs, then Yes, they are a top notch club. IF a top notch club was leading the league in scoring, they should be fighting for home ice advantage not for their playoff lives. "Top Notch Club", now that is funny.

Satan vs. Vanek. Both European, both make boat load of money, both show up occasionally in a game, both are very streaky, both seem very moody. Vanek isn't Satan yet but with 7 year contract in his hip pocket, he is well on his way. He'll be a New York Islander in less than 3 years, ok, maybe 4.

**Buffatexas** · 03-21-2008, 06:52 AM

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And it seems the worse teams bring out the best in Vanek. For what he is making he needs to be a hell of a lot more consistent. The cream is definately not rising in this case.

As far as comparing Vanek to Satan, you have different linemates and too many intangibles to really compare the two. All I can say if Thomas' last name was Jesus, this thread would become way too funny.

**Jan Reimers** · 03-21-2008, 07:27 AM

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I think Vanek is both a better player and goal scorer than Satan, but he does have that streakiness in common.

**THATHURMANATOR** · 03-21-2008, 08:53 AM

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Originally posted by LOSman WINS

All you naysayers of Vanek (and you know who you are so don't deny it!)

Lets see...
you said that he's lazy
you chewed him up and spit him out
you said he couldn't score

Well what do you have to say now he's got 31goals not to mention he had 43 goals last season

I have been behind Vanek the whole time.

**Typ0** · 03-21-2008, 09:35 AM

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Originally posted by SabreEleven

If you mean top "notch" club who is goes on serious losing streaks through out the year and fighting for thier playoff lives with a very realistic chance of NOT making the playoffs, then Yes, they are a top notch club. IF a top notch club was leading the league in scoring, they should be fighting for home ice advantage not for their playoff lives. "Top Notch Club", now that is funny.

Satan vs. Vanek. Both European, both make boat load of money, both show up occasionally in a game, both are very streaky, both seem very moody. Vanek isn't Satan yet but with 7 year contract in his hip pocket, he is well on his way. He'll be a New York Islander in less than 3 years, ok, maybe 4.

I mean top notch club from top to bottom. I believe they are built right and just going through some change right now. I'm not worried. They've gotten up towards the top before and they will ascend there again.

Satan is a veteran player with a very bad me attitude. Don't think it's fair at all to put that on Vanek. Give the kid a year or two to mature and see if he grows into his role on this team before you throw him away as the garbage Satan is.

**Buffatexas** · 03-21-2008, 09:59 AM

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Originally posted by Typ0

I mean top notch club from top to bottom. I believe they are built right and just going through some change right now. I'm not worried. They've gotten up towards the top before and they will ascend there again.

Satan is a veteran player with a very bad me attitude. Don't think it's fair at all to put that on Vanek. Give the kid a year or two to mature and see if he grows into his role on this team before you throw him away as the garbage Satan is.

I think that they were "built right" a year ago, but when you get beat not only in the game but physically punished like Ottawa did to us in the EC Finals, you have to get bigger. We sat idle and did not get bigger and now look at us.

**Typ0** · 03-21-2008, 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by Buffatexas

I think that they were "built right" a year ago, but when you get beat not only in the game but physically punished like Ottawa did to us in the EC Finals, you have to get bigger. We sat idle and did not get bigger and now look at us.

and we trounced Ottawa the year before too. Too much wining about how good we were last year and how bad we are this year. That's my point. The organization is built well for the long-haul and will rise up again. The real question should be whether or not the players are willing to come and play here if you ask me not how committed this team is to winning.

**Buffatexas** · 03-21-2008, 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by Typ0

and we trounced Ottawa the year before too. Too much wining about how good we were last year and how bad we are this year. That's my point. The organization is built well for the long-haul and will rise up again. The real question should be whether or not the players are willing to come and play here if you ask me not how committed this team is to winning.

I think that this edition of the team would do as well, IF it was last year. Unfortunately, the speed game, which we excel at, is changing. Teams are getting bigger. They are crashing the net more and are not hesitant to get in the way of shooters. I do not see the Sabs doing that. We lack size and strength. I would say that if we make some key moves in the offseason to bulk up, then we will be in a lot better shape

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